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Re: Why isnt Eminem supporting Yelawolf?

Postby cheeseburger » Sep 13th, '12, 09:59

Miller wrote:
AbramIsaac wrote:Who's he had on his songs recently?

He had a few features on Heart of Dixie and he did a whole ep with Ed Sheeran. Plus Psycho White has a couple features.

Yela NEEDS to be on Em's next album.



I actually believe this is better than having Em on Yelas album.
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Re: Why isnt Eminem supporting Yelawolf?

Postby TRShitty » Sep 13th, '12, 10:14

Eminem might just be moving on to Shady 3.0 if the Yela & Slaughterhouse sales stay like they are lol

Who actually looks forward to an Eminem beat, that isn't registered here as a poster? Honestly....come on. He made one beat for Jay and one beat for Nas a decade ago. Outside of a few exceptions, he doesn't produce like that for other artists. Nor are other rappers dying to get on Eminem beats. Nobody gives a f-ck. He's not Dre or Kanye.
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Re: Why isnt Eminem supporting Yelawolf?

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Sep 13th, '12, 10:33

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Re: Why isnt Eminem supporting Yelawolf?

Postby AbramIsaac » Sep 13th, '12, 11:10

Miller wrote:
AbramIsaac wrote:Who's he had on his songs recently?

He had a few features on Heart of Dixie and he did a whole ep with Ed Sheeran. Plus Psycho White has a couple features.

Yela NEEDS to be on Em's next album.

Who was on Heart of Dixie? I mean, other than the producer and the DJ hosting it, wasn't it solo? The Ed Sheeran thing doesn't really count, because it was Sheeran that came to him asking to do the project. To help him get exposure in the US. I haven't read about the Psycho White features yet, so I don't know about that one.

As far as Yelawolf being on the next Eminem album, I think that it could work if they have a really good concept that they both can relate to.
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Re: Why isnt Eminem supporting Yelawolf?

Postby EminemBase » Sep 13th, '12, 17:33

Miller wrote:Eminem IS a producer though. His best album production wise is The Eminem Show. He produced like 85% of that album. He co-produced almost every song on Welcome to Our House, he produced a lot for Obie, he produced Moment of Clarity and FUCKING LOSE YOURSELF! He IS a producer. I just think he should at least show up for his "protege"'s (he obviously is comparing his and Yela's relationship to his and Dre's) projects. Whether it be a beat, a hook or a verse. I know Yela can do it on his own, but he signed to Shady for a reason. He was already on a record label but he signed to SHADY anyways. His biggest promotion for Radioactive was interviewing Yela over twitter... yeah.


Yeah but Yela had 'Radioactive' done by the time he went to Em basically; he was ready to go with it, so Em just gave finishing input etc. but the input Em seems to have given, from what Yela implied, I think ruined it, and I also think ruined SH's album.

Em is able to take a 'worldwide' approach with his music and still make it authentic, and sometimes it makes it a lot better, but that doesn't mean he can just apply that to any rapper he signs, and I think the mixed reactions and low sales of Yela and SH prove that.

Em says he wants them to just do them but that's not true. He may let them rap what they want but other than that he seems to try and mould their sound to fit his vision more and it doesn't always work. It worked relatively well for Obie's first album, and for D12, but, he doesn't seem capable of creating music that is to the bone authentic and still 'big' now, he seems to compromise too much when trying to make the music work on a large scale.

And the irony is, the best music that connects internationally or has a lasting effect tends to be the music that is least concerned with appeal, if you look at NWA when they first came out and the lasting effect they've had GLOBALLY; they were totally uncompromising and from a very specific area and neighbourhood and just expressed themselves raw and authentically...

Fast forward to SH and, having Alex Da Kid beats and Skylar Grey hooks and trying to write broad themes that they're guessing appeal to a larger audience... it's just not, authentic.

I think Yela can make better music by himself now. Him realizing the failure of 'Radioactive', and actually... it failing full stop, is the best thing that could have happened. As we could have lost one of the potential greats to a path of mediocre 'hits' if it had worked, as he would have thought it was the best path. So, I'm very happy he sees the truth and is doing his thing again.
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Re: Why isnt Eminem supporting Yelawolf?

Postby The Shady Virus » Sep 13th, '12, 21:18

I noticed that it's the same with J Cole. Hov rarely gets on his music.

I think it may be more of the artists choice to try and build their fan base by themselves. I think they want to prove they can do it without having anything handed to them.
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Re: Why isnt Eminem supporting Yelawolf?

Postby AshRoarshock » Sep 13th, '12, 21:51

Miller wrote:Eminem IS a producer though. His best album production wise is The Eminem Show. He produced like 85% of that album. He co-produced almost every song on Welcome to Our House, he produced a lot for Obie, he produced Moment of Clarity and FUCKING LOSE YOURSELF! He IS a producer. I just think he should at least show up for his "protege"'s (he obviously is comparing his and Yela's relationship to his and Dre's) projects. Whether it be a beat, a hook or a verse. I know Yela can do it on his own, but he signed to Shady for a reason. He was already on a record label but he signed to SHADY anyways. His biggest promotion for Radioactive was interviewing Yela over twitter... yeah.


Don't forget he produced 2pac - Loyal To The Game album.
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Re: Why isnt Eminem supporting Yelawolf?

Postby AshRoarshock » Sep 13th, '12, 22:07

You know i keep reading people say Radioactive was recorded before he got signed. I remember reading this when he was first signed, but after that nobody mentioned that. After the album came out he said he recorded the album in 2 weeks. So I'm wondering how much of what we got was the album recorded before he got signed or if maybe we got a watered down version of the album. I'm thinking they changed the album completely.

I remember the first version of Animal that leaked and it sounded a lot different than the version on Radioactive. It didn't have that chick singing and it was darker with different lyrics.
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Re: Why isnt Eminem supporting Yelawolf?

Postby TRShitty » Sep 14th, '12, 02:02

AshRoarshock wrote:Don't forget he produced 2pac - Loyal To The Game album.


lol...oh yeah....THAT classic.

The same album where he SPED UP and SLOWED DOWN Tupac vocals to fit his crappy beats?

The same album where he chopped up Tupac's vocals to say "G-UNIT," "OBIE TRICE" and "DROP THAT SHIT, EM"?

The same album where he had Zombie Tupac awkwardly working with rappers he never worked with while alive?

What an awesome producer.
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Re: Why isnt Eminem supporting Yelawolf?

Postby Arrinef » Sep 14th, '12, 02:22

TRShitty wrote:
AshRoarshock wrote:Don't forget he produced 2pac - Loyal To The Game album.


lol...oh yeah....THAT classic.

The same album where he SPED UP and SLOWED DOWN Tupac vocals to fit his crappy beats?

The same album where he chopped up Tupac's vocals to say "G-UNIT," "OBIE TRICE" and "DROP THAT SHIT, EM"?

The same album where he had Zombie Tupac awkwardly working with rappers he never worked with while alive?

What an awesome producer.

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but yeah, he completely slaughtered tupac, afeni wanted that green
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Re: Why isnt Eminem supporting Yelawolf?

Postby EminemBase » Sep 14th, '12, 15:54

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TRShitty wrote:
AshRoarshock wrote:Don't forget he produced 2pac - Loyal To The Game album.


lol...oh yeah....THAT classic.

The same album where he SPED UP and SLOWED DOWN Tupac vocals to fit his crappy beats?

The same album where he chopped up Tupac's vocals to say "G-UNIT," "OBIE TRICE" and "DROP THAT SHIT, EM"?

The same album where he had Zombie Tupac awkwardly working with rappers he never worked with while alive?

What an awesome producer.


I really dont see the point of hating on Em because he made Tupac say "G Unit" and other things. I think its a fun way to do it, hah..

But yeah, the part where he sped up pacs vocals is facepalm worthy as fuck...


I actually think Em was majorly wrong to do that.

That's way over the line because he didn't even know 2Pac and 2Pac didn't know him or 50 Cent, so to chop up his vocals when he's dead as if he supports your shit is, wrong, lmao.
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Re: Why isnt Eminem supporting Yelawolf?

Postby TheGentlePlayer » Sep 15th, '12, 03:01

TRShitty wrote:
Miller wrote:I'm not just saying this because I want new Eminem material.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. But hey, I'lll bite:

Dr. Dre and Eminem are not the same.

Dr. Dre has a history of discovering talent and using his production to blow artists up, from N.W.A. to D.O.C. to Snoop Dogg to Eminem to 50 Cent to Kendrick Lamar. His record isn't perfect (cough, Hittman, Truth Hurts). But he's a starmaker.

Eminem....not so much. He's a great solo artist. And he helped get 50 Cent signed to Aftermath. But Get Rich Or Die Trying had more input from Dre than Eminem. And his career defining song, "In Da Club," didn't have anything to do with Eminem. Who did Eminem blow up on his own, exactly? D12? Obie Trice? Not exactly Snoop Doggy Dogg and Slim Shady. (The less said about Cashis, Stat Quo and the Z-list All Stars, the better.)

The reality is Eminem cannot do for Yelawolf what Dre did for him. Eminem making beats is Michael Jordan playing baseball. He's not a producer like Dre's a producer. Also, Dre adapts to his artists. Eminem tries to turn his artists into him. (Got some teeth? Throw that dick.) Radioactive and Our House sound wayyyyy more like Recovery Eminem than Pop The Trunk Yela and 2009 Album Slaughterhouse.

That said, Eminem's supported Yela in a variety of ways. Signing him, producing him, rapping with him, promoting him...he might not be doing as much as you like. But what's the magic amount of promotion needed, exactly? If Eminem was all over a Yela album like a D12 album, wouldn't that be stealing the show?

Dr. Dre is a producer first and a rapper second
Kanye West is a producer first and a rapper second.
Eminem is a rapper first and a producer second.

If you're waiting for him to blow up Yela like Dre blew up him...get comfortable.


In Da Club was a D12 song. Even Dr.Dre said it. 50 was just looking in Ems pc and found that beat. He asked for it, and Em said just take it.
So dont only give Dr.Dre the credit, but Em too.
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Re: Why isnt Eminem supporting Yelawolf?

Postby TRShitty » Sep 17th, '12, 10:17

Yes, let's give Eminem credit for a song he did not write, produce or perform on.

I swear, if they sold Eminem's cum in the grocery store, that's all you morons would drink.
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Re: Why isnt Eminem supporting Yelawolf?

Postby The Shady Virus » Sep 17th, '12, 18:48

I enjoyed Ghetto Gospel and Runnin'... I think Em's production on both were solid.
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Re: Why isnt Eminem supporting Yelawolf?

Postby AbramIsaac » Sep 17th, '12, 20:15

InsaneTRex94 wrote:
TRShitty wrote:Yes, let's give Eminem credit for a song he did not write, produce or perform on.

I swear, if they sold Eminem's cum in the grocery store, that's all you morons would drink.

Do you think Em can produce enough of it to feed all of us though? :unsure:

Whoa, I'm on a no cum diet.

It goes straight to my ass.
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