SajN wrote:Aaaand the same useless thread about Encore again... which we've had since 2005.
EminemBase wrote:No he wouldn't have... it was shit and silly music for the most part... but you can still tell Em has a major grasp of melody and can rap. Vanilla Ice wasn't a musician or a rapper, he had no rhythm or flow, the guy plain out can't rap. Even on 'Encore', Em can rap.
The guy rapping "Mosh" wouldn't be seen as a joke.
The guy rapping "Just Lose It" would be seen as annoying, which Em was seen as in '99 anyway with "My Name Is", to most he was just a cheesy white guy rapping an annoying hook.
He got people's attention with his concepts ("Stan") and his anger ("The Way I Am"), and when I say attention I mean respect for him as an artist and not just an aimless provocateur.
'Encore' has some good rap, some average rap and some downright awful music... but you can still tell the fkn guy on the record is a talented artist, you can hear it in his writing, his self-deprecation on "Evil Deeds", the little self-jibes, his phrasing... even though he was at his worst, Em never would have been looked at as a joke, regardless of what album he came out with.
EminemInsider wrote:Vanilla Ice's flow was no different than most mainstream rappers'. Nobody was saying, "that guy can't flow." They were saying, "novelty act cornball," and then he became despised in the hip hop community when he started lying about where he grew up.
Eminem got respect from rap fans right away because he brought the underground to the mainstream. His skill was undeniable. The people hating on My Name Is were generally the non-rap fans anyway. "Look at this white guy who thinks he's black, what a joker. Rap isn't music. Rap is crap."
If Eminem debuted with Just Lose It, he's "Vanilla Ice, only somehow even worse." And you know what would be said about the guy who made Mosh? "This cat can't flow. At all."
Kill You wrote:Wow, this fucking thread again? Let's stop all these "what ifs", they're pointless. What if Lil Wayne wasn't complete garbage? He is. What if Drake wasn't a complete faggot? He is. What could have been doesn't change what is.
Trimss wrote:One of the reasons why I hate Encore is that it seems like a spoof, a parody of Eminem's older albums. It seems like he tried to recreate everything that worked and make it wacker.
CrashBand wrote:Base, I extremely doubt your dad's 50 year old heavy rock fan knows much about rap, lol.
But good for him for liking it.
EminemBase wrote:CrashBand wrote:Base, I extremely doubt your dad's 50 year old heavy rock fan knows much about rap, lol.
But good for him for liking it.
...That was exactly my point lol.
CrashBand wrote:I thought you were using him liking it as a part of the justification for Eminem not being terrible on it.
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