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Re: How, oh how...

Postby EminemBase » Aug 1st, '13, 11:40

CrashBand wrote:No other track on Relapse is as well-written as Deja Vu.


"Stay Wide Awake" I think is written better, some of the writing on there is just superb, and no I'm not talking 'multiz bro', I mean the phrasing,the thoughts he chooses, the way he captures psychopathy by saying he wouldn't use a gun because there's not enough sadistic control of the violence in it lmao... there's so many elements of detail people miss in what they think are his 'pointless rap tracks' where he's just trying to impress, but he reveals so much character and moments of detailed thought, and humour; as he's not caring about anything else other than the content and the writing, he's not trying to 2nd-guess himself or his listeners or create a real-life drama story. Where as most introspection drains him of his personality now, because he's so hell-bent on proving he's... mature when he's not, or still immature or still this, or just so dead serious on making you feel empathy here or letting you know 'his views' that it just hinders creativity and creates audio soap opera.

"My Mom" is written well too... and "Same Song and Dance" is written really well...

I think it's hard to compare two different subject-matters as the intent and meaning of the writing is changed... but I find it annoying how so many people just find even mediocre songs about real-life issues 'better writing' than amazing songs written about anything else...

Not saying "Deja Vu" is mediocre btw, it's a brilliant track, and the rare introspection that is merited, that track was merited... but when he makes it the overbearing focus of his work to pander to people's need to 'relate' I find it so boring and predictable.

It was the perfect track to go out on. Even more than I wish I had R2... I wish he had ended the album on that track, fading out like it does.. would have been such a cohesive album.
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Re: How, oh how...

Postby Eedee » Aug 1st, '13, 12:03

Crash, yeah I know what you mean. He went for just rhyming his ass off on SWA (lol at the Tech shit yo). But as EmBase said, he did have some awesome thought processes in the song. I suppose we'll leave it at that. It can go both ways though. Going for tons of rhymes but still have some underlying sadistic thoughts.
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Re: How, oh how...

Postby CrashBand » Aug 1st, '13, 12:14

It's few and far between though and his phrasing is god awful at times.
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Re: How, oh how...

Postby EminemBase » Aug 1st, '13, 17:36

CrashBand wrote:It's few and far between though and his phrasing is god awful at times.


Like when?
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Re: How, oh how...

Postby EmTV » Aug 1st, '13, 22:04

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Yes!! Well said!

The whole song can really be taken wrong if the listener is doing something else than, eeh listening.
The hook is so funny since he sees her screams for help as a song and her attempts of cracking the window as a dance. :laughing:

Same song and dance as the last girl. Oooh damn girl everywhere I goo..


Never thought of the hook that way :o that's pretty damn cool if it is supposed to mean her screaming and trying to break the glass of the window.
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Re: How, oh how...

Postby CrashBand » Aug 2nd, '13, 05:01

EminemBase wrote:Like when?

Ignoring the rhyming, if you read it simply as prose.

I creep right through the front, see, so blatantly but silently cause I know that she's sound sleep.

It sounds like elementary school English.

I might just be Ted Bundy or Satan, gee what a sight to see, I'm dancing in my red panties

Blatantly state you are like a famous serial killer... and then dafuq, lol.

Prowler, there's no one fouler; bound ya, that's how they found ya

Lines I wouldn't be happy with, let alone one of the best rappers ever.

And I also don't like breaking words and sentences off.
"Impregnate a lesbian, yeah, now let's see her have triplets and I'll di-....
.....-sintegrate them babies


If you take it away from the flow and rhyming (which is impressive), it's pretty fucking ordinary writing.
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Re: How, oh how...

Postby UofLCard » Aug 2nd, '13, 05:05

SWA's second verse is average and I usually skip through it.
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Re: How, oh how...

Postby sbolli1 » Aug 2nd, '13, 08:00

CrashBand wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Like when?

Ignoring the rhyming, if you read it simply as prose.

I creep right through the front, see, so blatantly but silently cause I know that she's sound sleep.

It sounds like elementary school English.

I might just be Ted Bundy or Satan, gee what a sight to see, I'm dancing in my red panties

Blatantly state you are like a famous serial killer... and then dafuq, lol.

Prowler, there's no one fouler; bound ya, that's how they found ya

Lines I wouldn't be happy with, let alone one of the best rappers ever.

And I also don't like breaking words and sentences off.
"Impregnate a lesbian, yeah, now let's see her have triplets and I'll di-....
.....-sintegrate them babies


If you take it away from the flow and rhyming (which is impressive), it's pretty fucking ordinary writing.


Wait are you being serious? What in the fucking world is wrong with this line?
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Re: How, oh how...

Postby SliK » Aug 2nd, '13, 09:10

CrashBand wrote:And I also don't like breaking words and sentences off.
"Impregnate a lesbian, yeah, now let's see her have triplets and I'll di-....
.....-sintegrate them babies

Then again straight after:
..formalde-
Hyde and cyanide, girl you can try and hide, now you see just how the-
Fuck I do just what I do...

And before it too: you're the kind of girl that I'd a-
ssault and rape...

It would be fine (or at least better) if he flowed it smoothly, but he doesn't.

Then rhyming "scalp ugh" with "out ugh".

His flow and even phrasing in the third verse is great though.
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Re: How, oh how...

Postby CrashBand » Aug 2nd, '13, 09:15

sbolli1 wrote:Wait are you being serious? What in the fucking world is wrong with this line?
Maybe was a bit harsh, but it's far from impressive.
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