Em coming into his own

by **Jimmy Conway** » Aug 14th, '13, 21:51

So I think he is finally figuring out that Recovery style.

Embase has spoken before on Em's ability to make words really pleasing to the ear. The way he stretches a word, the emphasis on a words, the spacing in between. And while I think Survival isn't a great song, it has some issues with the flow, the pace, the volume of vocals,some things that plagued Recovery.

But, overall he has really smoothed it out. He sounds really crisp. The way he says his words sounds on point

"This is it, it's what you eat, sleep, piss and shit
Lift, breathe, your whole existence just consists of this
Refuse to quit, refuse to slit, can't diffuse the wick
If I don't do this music shit I lose my shit
Ain't got shit to lose, it's the moment of truth
It's all I know how to do
As soon as I get thrown in the booth, I spit
But my respect is overdue
I'm showin' you the flow no one dos
I don't own no diploma for school, I quit!"

That is on point. I think Em is hungry. He HAS to be. A lot of people have been talking shit about Em and like he said in 8 mile "I hear everything" He knows everything that has been said. And I think he is here to prove something. Unlike Recovery when it just had "another album" feel. He is hear to cement his legacy. He doesn't want to go out with a bunch of mediocre albums at the end of his catalog.

I'd be surprised if it's as good as Relapse, but I don't think it will be as bad as Recovery. Somewhere in the middle and that will result in a good album.

Holy shit, a positive me, did I get hacked?

Website · by **Solace** » Aug 14th, '13, 21:55

Lmfao I liked that part in 8 Mile where he said that :flutter:

by **Jimmy Conway** » Aug 15th, '13, 02:32

I didn't type all that shit for you assholes not to talk in here.

by **UnoDeuce** » Aug 15th, '13, 05:29

Slim Cary wrote:

"This is it, it's what you eat, sleep, piss and shit
Lift, breathe, your whole existence just consists of this
Refuse to quit, the fuse is lit, can't diffuse the wick
If I don't do this music shit I lose my shit
Ain't got shit to lose, it's the moment of truth
It's all I know how to do
As soon as I get thrown in the booth, I spit
But my respect is overdue
I'm showin' you the flow no one dos
I don't own no diploma for school, I quit!"

those multis omg

by **Usernamesarehard** » Aug 15th, '13, 06:03

Slim Cary wrote:I didn't type all that shit for you assholes not to talk in here.

Laughing so fucking hard :laughing:

by **Whitefox** » Aug 15th, '13, 06:32

I can adjust, plus I can just walk up to a mic and just bust
So floor's open if you'd like to discuss

This is fucking strong. This is how serious and grown men say that they are the best. Just 2 lines.

by **RayMcTechGuy** » Aug 15th, '13, 07:43

Hes where he needs to be. I couldn't be any happier with this track.

Fuckin love this part right here, look at that rhyme scheme.

But I want you to doubt me, I don't want you to buh-lieve
Cause this is something that I must use to suc-ceed
And if you don't like me then fuck you!
Self es-teem must be fuckin' shooting through-the-roof
Cause trust me
My skin is too thick and bul-let proof to touch me
I can see why the fuck I disgust you
I must be a-llergic to failure cause everytime I come close to it I just sneeze
I just go atchoo then achieve!

I probably missed some, but just going kinda quick, I think you get the point. Pure dopeness.

by **xNero** » Aug 15th, '13, 09:47

Solace wrote:Lmfao I liked that part in 8 Mile where he said that

Lmao word. "So he a ninja now?"

by **EminemBase** » Aug 15th, '13, 11:16

Yeah... "Survival" feels like... BET Cypher meets "Cinderella Man"...

That BET Cypher style was just about perfect... he didn't make the entire flow a yell; he just utilized it as a tool in his toolBOX(es!!!)!!... but I think contrast is what creates pleasure to the ears... which is why this and the BET Cypher sound so much better...

"25 to Life" for example sounds like one steroid-infused-rant... almost all one tone of anger...

Where as the Cypher and this style... goes more up and down, but... when he was experimenting with the whisper to loud during his 012 live shit etc... "Survival" just feels like more of a mastery of all these elements; it's like he's taken the yelling, the contrast of quiet to loud, the tongue-twisty delivery now and then and just created a really beautiful balance...

AND,the fucking production is sorted. Even if this shit isn't MMLP hardcore funk genius, even if there's the ocassional cheesy guitar sample or predictable anthemic beat... there's no shitty drums and it's stripped down and his vocals sound loud and clear and crisp as you said.

Whilst I agree that it feels slightly toooo Recovery-ish in a way... it's like he's taken all the best elements, fixed all the shit elements... and... I think perhaps he just spent ages doing this, just really patching up, obsessing and trying to create the perfect style...

And I know I may get bashed for saying this but right now at least, I actually find this rap style more satisfying than TES. TES is still his best album, and is amazing, but as much as people dislike new aspects of his new styles... one thing he's taken to whole new levels is precision and pronunciation and delivery... he sounds like a voice artist now or something... Recovery sounded a bit too abrasive though, but he has smooth tones in his voice on "Survival" it's a spot-on balance...

Like, as I listen... the contrast between smooth, harsh, the humour, the cockiness, the tongue-twisting rhyming... I just think this is REALLY good signs for this fucking album.

The way he says like "if there should ever come a time when my... " in a relaxed/casual way as if going off the flow/rhyme scheme then yells "LIFE'S IN A RUT!" almost like a surprise delivery back on track of that flow/style to carry it on is so satisfying and just cool, because on like Recovery he'd have just said the whole thing more down-the-line... this slightly evolved style has more variety and playful elements and ways in which he's trying to catch you off-guard a lot... if this kind of focus on every element carries throughout and this is 'light work' as Porter said... then my god, I think this may become his most addictive work yet to me. This may even top my Relapse addiction yo.

If this shit isn't a classic, then holy fuck he should give up because how the fuck can you be this good right now (in terms of his skill and passion) and fail the third time round.

Way more hyped for this album now.

by **Whitefox** » Aug 15th, '13, 11:23

I think perhaps he just spent ages doing this, just really patching up, obsessing and trying to create the perfect style...

Eminem is probably the only rapper who can spend 3 ages just for fixing and re-creating his style. He is a fucking rap-maniac.

by **Hopsinshadie** » Aug 15th, '13, 12:13

Ih he is to cement his legacy, he'll have to do better

by **JamaicanPattlez** » Aug 15th, '13, 14:02

Hopsinshadie wrote:Ih he is to cement his legacy, he'll have to do better

We should cement your air tunnels...

by **Kill You** » Aug 15th, '13, 17:17

RayMcTechGuy wrote:Hes where he needs to be. I couldn't be any happier with this track.

Fuckin love this part right here, look at that rhyme scheme.

But I want you to doubt me, I don't want you to buh-lieve
Cause this is something that I must use to suc-ceed
And if you don't like me then fuck you!
Self es-teem must be fuckin' shooting through-the-roof
Cause trust me
My skin is too thick and bul-let proof to touch me
I can see why the fuck I disgust you
I must be a-llergic to failure cause everytime I come close to it I just sneeze
I just go atchoo then achieve!

I probably missed some, but just going kinda quick, I think you get the point. Pure dopeness.

3rd verse is GOAT. :flutter:

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