Why Sadistik is better than current Eminem

[WinstonMARX]

If you think The Eminem Show is Eminem's best album then you've already admitted Sadistik is better than Em right now. It's emotion, it's life, it's poetry, it's deep, it's cryptic imagery. Eminem is a shell of his former self. All of the raw emotion in his delivery has been replaced with that generic anger. He used to not only ride the beat but let his flow imitate it. Now his flow has also become generic and characterless.

Sadistik's music when you look at it without trying to contrast with Em's is artwork. Emancipator is one of the most artistic producers I've ever heard. His beats take you on journeys. Sadistik doesn't have 3 minute songs with 3 16 bar verses and a chorus systematically ringing in. His art imitates life. He covers the entire beat with meaning like an artist covers a canvas with color.

[Slayer661]

Meh. Typical netcee. I can play those songs one or two times and be happy to never hear them again. In all honesty Welcome 2 Hell, Above The Law, Reunion, (new Eminem) shit all over them. Better charisma, delivery and lyricism on them than this shit. And, above all, re-playability. . Cant believe this guy is your favourite emcee smh. Just my opinion

[dead prez]

Good, Sadistik is better than Eminem in the views of Hip Hop Heads
I personally prefer Eminem and find -some- of Sadistik's song unlistenable .. Searching For Some Beautiful is an example, while I like some of his songs .. November and Writes Of Passage (something like that) are examples

In general, though .. I would rather listen to Eminem more than Sadistik without no given reason, Is that a crime ?

No it's just an amorphous feeling that you have towards Em's music that can't be put into words, even if another rapper is better in every technical way, some rappers are just more towards your liking and you prefer their content or style better, which are more or less subjective reasons and can't be put forth into emprical evidence.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

No Charisma,No Personality on the mic,his flow sucks,hes like a drama queen with his subject matter that is very repetitive,his multies are very generic and dont even hold a candle to Em's multies,hes average at best,menzo's here,wait till amadeo or EmInsider see this,i see some good potential here right satire?

[WinstonMARX]

*dead*

Who the fuck wants to listen to a rapper who legitimately talks about emo shit EVERY fuckin track? Redundancy fuckin kills you in Hip Hop.

I've listened to his albums and I would bet my bottom dollar you haven't even listened to Recovery as a whole.

I stated in another thread that Sadistik is a dope lyricist, but the fag has to start getting some diversity in his content and deliveries.

Sadistik has a multitude of deliveries. It's not even worth trying to argue he doesn't.

Content wise he only has 18 songs. If he keeps doing the same thing that could be a problem but he's even said he was changing his musical direction. Plus his 6 songs with KCC are noticeably different than his 12 with Emancipator and Equilibrum.

No Charisma,No Personality on the mic,his flow sucks

There is no response to this. You are too dumb to argue with or insult.

[MikeNUFC]

Sadistik is better than current Eminem, no doubt.

But If Eminem chose to use a chill voice, I'd rather than listen to him. I can't get through Sadistik's album in one sitting - I think he admitted himself, he doesn't 'paint with enough colours' (to use a vague metaphor *ahem*) and his EP just sounded like a rehash of his LP.

I'm not going to argue with the OP because I agree with it, Eminem is pretty awful at the moment; his rhymes/flows are so poorly structured on the whole and his delivery is unlistenable most of the time - I would definitely like to debate with class on prime-Eminem vs Sadistik, though (if he believes Sadistik is better of course).

No Charisma,No Personality on the mic,his flow sucks,hes like a drama queen with his subject matter that is very repetitive,his multies are very generic and dont even hold a candle to Em's multies

Calling his multies generic is absolutely ridiculous. I'd like to hear you define what you think a generic multie is and why you think Sadistik has generic multies. That should be amusing.

[Satire]

Sadistik is better than current Eminem, no doubt.

But If Eminem chose to use a chill voice,

It's gonna be lulzy when Em gets word that his fans want this and reworks his next album into his own version of Rolling Papers.

[MikeNUFC]

Sadistik is better than current Eminem, no doubt.

But If Eminem chose to use a chill voice,

It's gonna be lulzy when Em gets word that his fans want this and his next album turns out to be his own version of Rolling Papers.

If his angry voice sounded good, then I'd be fine. It doesn't, it sounds like complete dogshit. It's not like he has to use an anrgy voice to convey emotion: see Deja Vu.

[Satire]

Sadistik is better than current Eminem, no doubt.

But If Eminem chose to use a chill voice,

It's gonna be lulzy when Em gets word that his fans want this and his next album turns out to be his own version of Rolling Papers.

If his angry voice sounded good, then I'd be fine. It doesn't, it sounds like complete dogshit. It's not like he has to use an anrgy voice to convey emotion: see Deja Vu.

While I agree that the angry voice does sound like complete ear penetration, the circumstances on that song are different. The calmness in Deja Vu's voice works because the tone fits the song's content perfectly: He was an emotionless (yet at the same time, not), numb pill-zombie who did nothing but wander the corridors of his mansion all day, and that apathetic attitude was captured perfectly in his vocals.

But me and you both know his content. He doesn't do that type of self-pity emo music on every emotion-filled song he does, some of his content almost requires an extent of anger to be portrayed. He couldn't use the Deja Vu voice on say, Sing For The Moment or Lose Yourself even though it would probably work well on songs like Rock Bottom.

His voice just needs to sound better and less contrived in general, but yeah. I do agree that he's overusing the delivery he has right now. Ya fellin me, dawg?

[xxTrigger1989xx]

"Why Class needs to let people like what they like, and just learn to leave it alone."



We get it, you have repeated this several times, yet you love to beat our heads in with it. You're sounding like a broken record the way you repeating the same bullshit. Go back to listening to your pussy ass music while you cry in your corner, fantasizing that your balls will drop enough one day for you to tell your parents that you rap.

Faggot, no one gives a fuck about your opinion here, go back to HHD please and suck Sadistik's dick there. And don't you love how Sadistik was talking about opinions on this forum, how everyone is entitled to one? Is he a tool for thinking that, too?

[iain08]

You can go on about how much better his rhyme schemes and subject matter and shit, but put simply I enjoy listening to eminem more. i've heard a couple of sadistik songs (like november) and it's amazing, but i can't go through an entire album of his and not get bored. you can probably list any artist as being better than current Em because current Em is a pile of shit.

But you can keep arguing about how much better sadistik is technically, but im not going to listen to his songs if they're not enjoyable. obviously it's personal preference and all but eminem just makes more enjoyable music.

[MikeNUFC]

@Satire - I "feel ya dawg". But he could have used an angry voice on Rock Bottom (he didn't, he wanted to let the lyrics do the talking, and because it encapsualted his mindstate perfectly) and it would have still sounded good because even when he was yelling back then it sounded great (see the songs you mentioned)

He must realise how horrific it sounds. He could easily get away with an emotional track these days without the shouting. Let the lyrics do the talking. Take From Me is an example. Ignoring the ridiculous nature/concept of the song (especially on Royce's part - did his shitty Bar Exam 3 mixtape that no cares about leak early? I bet about 8 people downloaded it) a more calm delivery could come across as far more powerful, potraying that "tired at it all" feel he was attemting.

And the use of it on songs like Welcome 2 Hell, Loud Noises etc is completely pointless.I lol'ed at people having to work out the Gaga line by reading the lyrics - says it all.

Welcome 2 Hell could have been a great song without it - his rhymes are great and the flow in the first verse actaully sounded okay as he was more on beat.

[Slayer661]

"Why Class needs to let people like what they like, and just learn to leave it alone."



We get it, you have repeated this several times, yet you love to beat our heads in with it. You're sounding like a broken record the way you repeating the same bullshit. Go back to listening to your pussy ass music while you cry in your corner, fantasizing that your balls will drop enough one day for you to tell your parents that you rap.

Faggot, no one gives a fuck about your opinion here, go back to HHD please and suck Sadistik's dick there. And don't you love how Sadistik was talking about opinions on this forum, how everyone is entitled to one? Is he a tool for thinking that, too?

[Satire]

@Satire - I "feel ya dawg". But he could have used an angry voice on Rock Bottom (he didn't, he wanted to let the lyrics do the talking, and because it encapsualted his mindstate perfectly) and it would have still sounded good because even when he was yelling back then it sounded great (see the songs you mentioned)

He must realise how horrific it sounds. He could easily get away with an emotional track these days without the shouting. Let the lyrics do the talking. Take From Me is an example. Ignoring the ridiculous nature/concept of the song (especially on Royce's part - did his shitty Bar Exam 3 mixtape that no cares about leak early? I bet about 8 people downloaded it) a more clam delivery could come across as far more powerful, giving a "tired" tone.

And the use of it on songs like Welcome 2 Hell, Loud Noises etc is completely pointless positive.I lol'ed at people having to work out the Gaga line by reading the lyrics - says it all.

Welcome 2 Hell could have been a great song without it - his rhymes are great and the flow in the first verse actaully sounded okay as he was more on beat.

I'm glad you're filling me (up). Back then his delivery was on-point in every instance, so yeah he could have used the angry delivery on just about any emotional song but I'm just saying there are topics that a calm, indifferent voice can't cover without sounding monotonous plus a weary voice on every emotional track becomes tedious almost as quick as shouting does, " my nikka".

However, I would rather have a monotonous vocal track being carried by the lyrics/flow than the hoarse whining that we've been hearing. And I'm glad you had your lols, Amadeo.

I just miss the days where he sounded energetic and hungry while hardly raising his voice past an extent (Square Dance, When The Music Stops). I feel like he's just trying to place emphasis on an "aggressive" persona in eyes of the mainstream. I mean, I know he still has something similar to it in him with recent songs like The Warning & Forever out but with all of the attention that he's obviously paying to fans (As shown in the back and fourth opinion on Relapse) I just don't see how he hasn't realized how good the reception on the phonetic aspects of those songs were. Those songs came out, and then Despicable was released and his style was completely different again. The transition between Relapse & Recovery was an Em-phase of it's own, like what happened?

[MikeNUFC]

I'm glad you're filling me (up). Back then his delivery was on-point in every instance, so yeah he could have used the angry delivery on just about any emotional song but I'm just saying there are topics that a calm, indifferent voice can't cover without sounding monotonous plus a weary voice on every emotional track becomes tedious almost as quick as shouting does, " my nikka".

Yes, but at least a calm, indifferent voice sounds sonically okay, whether it gets tiring or not. It might take somethign away from the emotion but not as much as his shouting does.

However, I would rather have a monotonous vocal track being carried by the lyrics/flow than the hoarse whining that we've been hearing. And I'm glad you had your lols, Amadeo.

lolwut

I just miss the days where he sounded energetic and hungry while hardly raising his voice past an extent (Square Dance, When The Music Stops). I know he still has something similar to it in him with recent songs like The Warning & Forever out but with all of the attention that he's obviously paying attention to fans (As shown in the back and fourth opinion on Relapse) I just don't see how he hasn't realized how good the reception on the phonetic aspects of those songs were. Those songs came out, and then Despicable was released and his style was completely different again. The transition between Relapse & Recovery was an Em-phase of it's own, like what happened?

Hunger has been missing (as a whole) since his comeback. It's quite evident that the songs where he had to get something of his chest (Deja Vu, Going Through Changes, YNO, INAD and, to some extent, The Warning) are some of his best, both overall and, most notably, delivery aspect. That's why I think, in something like 25 To Life, he was forcing the concept to some extent.

The main problem is, in songs, where he's not saying anything of much important, he doesn't have that 'sound' as you say. Take Watch Deez, for example. Random song about nothing yet he sounds so hungry and fresh, with every word having a place. He doesn't really know what to do in random spitting tracks as much as he did (lack of creativity). Some tracks on BME EP show that he may be bringing that back.