Why wasn't Eminem good in school?

[trinell05]

Okay, spare us the 5 page essay. He dropped out because he'd rather rap. And he did go back to school because I once found his adult education card. For the life of me, I cannot understand why I didn't save it, but I do remember he had a B in math and generally did very well on the test.

[Nick419]

i remember he said he ended up getting his g.e.d. or was in the process of getting it on one the 106 and park episodes where he was promoting for the eminem show. i think it was the one with chris rock

[060877]

i remember he said he ended up getting his g.e.d. or was in the process of getting it on one the 106 and park episodes where he was promoting for the eminem show. i think it was the one with chris rock

ya in the Rolling Stone interview after Recovery he said he got his GED. so he does care about school.

[Erowid]

He also skipped class a lot.

I definitely agree with EmBase on that whole thing though, no fuckin doubt.

For sure. The fact is, anyone, even kinda stupid people, can pass 9th grade at a shitty public high school. Not everyone can EXCEL, but just about everyone who is average or so can pass without struggling too much. When people fail whole grades in school, especially multiple times, it's more evidence that they didn't give half a shit, didn't show up, didn't do any of their homework, and wrote "happy birthday to you" over and over on their tests. Stuff like that. It says nothing at all about how smart or dumb Em was, because if he had TRIED, even a little, he would have passed, just like the myriad of other idiots who don't have trouble passing high school, even if they don't take it insanely seriously. It's obvious to me that he didn't even pretend to bother, and that as a result, there just wasn't really much THERE for him to be graded on, so he just got zeros or f's or whatever, just by default.

I think I remember Kim said, in the Dr. Keith interview something like "we would go in the front door in the morning, and walk right out the back door and go hang out at a friend's house." He didn't fail 9th grade because it was too complex for him. He failed 9th grade, because he barely even DID 9th grade. And as far as him being "good at English"... I've known people like that. They suck at anything they have to make even the slightest effort for, but if they happen to sort of be a natural at something, they might pay a little more attention to it than normal, because it's the only thing that comes super easy to them, so it gives them a little confidence boost.

My point is it's not hard to pass high school. He just didn't even really attempt it is all.

[Cupid Stunt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnuDpdzA ... re=related

[BigBoss]

Not everyone excels in academia.

fucking hate this word, all my college professors use it, it makes school seem like afucking country or something ugh

[BigBoss]

Not everyone excels in academia.

fucking hate this word, all my college professors use it, it makes school seem like afucking country or something ugh

You know what word I hate?
Swag.

YEA ugh fucking new kid faggots with their new stupid ass words



#yolo

[BigBoss]

That acronym sends me into a rage. My blood pressure rises just from reading it.

#Swolo

[Guess_Who]

Do you think he would ever want to go back to school?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rKRFKSE_MI

[EG.]

Geniuses never are.

[Manly Moose]

Because our educational systems do not favour and are not designed to compliment creative minds.

Our educational systems have evolved to cater to an industrialized society, and this was the basis on which they were created. This is why public schools in the West are generally like assembly lines.

Schools do not enhance or enlighten subjects, they drain them. Schools have to cater to a broad range of young minds and teach in the broadest way possible. The way teachers have evolved to present information now is mundane, repetitive and dull.

Learning shouldn't be mundane and dull, it should be exciting and engaging. But schools are dull due to the fact our governments want (or should I say, need) children to just cycle through this system as quickly as possible to get arbitrary 'qualifications' to get jobs, to pay taxes.

Schools are breeding grounds for conformity.

Creative people are not conformists and not doing well at school means fuck all. You may have been brought-up to believe school is something to be treasured but why do you think you have been? because schools are a fundamental step to churning truckloads more adolescents through the system into conformist adulthood, to pay taxes, to be 'yes men' of the norm.

The arts are considered the lowest / least important subjects in school. Teachers don't generally encourage creativity, schools tend to encourage 'practical' lines of work and thinking. This is because the government treat the population like gambling chips, or rather... they have evolved to do this (inadvertently). And, the lowest risk humans are those who say 'yes', those who pay taxes and those who enter lines of work (often involving maths or science) which compliment society.

Artistic thinkers are by definition risky as not many people achieve artistic excellence, it's not a 'practical' line of work and yet look around you: we're surrounded by artistic innovation, we spend our lives (all of us, politicians included... ironically) listening to music, quoting movies, watching television, adhering to fashion and taste etc.

We need new educational systems. Our current ones are stuck in the 50s. Our methods of teaching and the subjects we deem important or how we think of learning and life choices hasn't caught up to reality and our current society. We're still living like we're a society dominated by industry (steel, coal etc.) when in fact we are now entering (or have long been entering) a new stage; of technological innovation. We're now a technologically-driven society.

Schools suck the life out of subjects as apposed to breathing life in to them.

Almost all geniuses I know of, or all the people I admire are self-taught. Teaching yourself, self-discovery and an open-mind and, trail-blazing your way through life... this way of thinking leads to a more interesting and independent personality.

Eminem didn't do well in school because he's a left-field genius. School wasn't designed for Eminem. Or any true genius, hence why so many are drop-outs are habitual loners and self studiers.

Frankly schools in rich areas, like the high school I'm going to are fantastic with great programs, teachers that are unique; just having none of the problems you talked about. However, I know poor areas won't have this, they will have teachers that dont know what they are doing or dont have control of how they teach. The harsh environment of someone who is poor also makes things harder as in Em's case. Your really just screwed if your poor.

[EminemBase]

Frankly schools in rich areas, like the high school I'm going to are fantastic with great programs, teachers that are unique; just having none of the problems you talked about. However, I know poor areas won't have this, they will have teachers that dont know what they are doing or dont have control of how they teach. The harsh environment of someone who is poor also makes things harder as in Em's case. Your really just screwed if your poor.

Yeah exactly... I know there also creative schools out there but, they're not for the masses. I'm from a shithole town, went to a public school - was hell. Also funny as shit sometimes but mainly, hell.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

id like to think that Em knew that education does not really educate shit,i go to school cuz if i dont then people will judge and shit.

[Wreck]

I feel the need to address this since it was brought up in here very little. He failed 9th grade 3 times because he skipped school to go battle & rap, not because he was dumb. Of course he probably hated school too, to an extent, but that's the real reason.

[Bedtime Stories]

He said that he failed because he skipped school a lot, he says he was good in English but one of his classmates said it wasn't true.