What is Slim Shady?

[EminemBase]

A metaphor for dark attitude; a title given to anything other Eminem wants to show you, other than himself; fantasy, violence, aggression, rebellion. It's his anger and his dark thoughts.

It's not a specific character, it's whatever dark thoughts he happens to be thinking at that time.

@Snake - I disagree about Relapse not being Shady too. Relapse is Shady; Shady embodies whatever mood or mindset Em is in, it's the darker of whatever he happens to be; Shady is also the most despicable, unforgiving anything: rapist, murderer, Mr. Don't Give a Fuck... it's an escape, an excuse and an exercise in artistic freedom. Relapse is definitely Shady. Gleeful psychopathy.

He is despicable and unforgiving. But, paraphrasing Em here: Slim Shady is the guy who shows up after a couple of drinks. He's an outlet for anger. Relapse was not Em being angry. He wasn't Slim Shady. Relapse was far too outlandish to be Slim Shady.

It was Shady though lol.

Any time he ventures in to fantasy, psychopathic, angry, silly or otherwise... it's Shady.

It's an escapist metaphor.

Relapse is not Eminem. Relapse is Shady.

"Shady man no, don't massacre the fans!"

You arguing with the man who wrote it lol?

[Snakebeast]

A metaphor for dark attitude; a title given to anything other Eminem wants to show you, other than himself; fantasy, violence, aggression, rebellion. It's his anger and his dark thoughts.

It's not a specific character, it's whatever dark thoughts he happens to be thinking at that time.

@Snake - I disagree about Relapse not being Shady too. Relapse is Shady; Shady embodies whatever mood or mindset Em is in, it's the darker of whatever he happens to be; Shady is also the most despicable, unforgiving anything: rapist, murderer, Mr. Don't Give a Fuck... it's an escape, an excuse and an exercise in artistic freedom. Relapse is definitely Shady. Gleeful psychopathy.

He is despicable and unforgiving. But, paraphrasing Em here: Slim Shady is the guy who shows up after a couple of drinks. He's an outlet for anger. Relapse was not Em being angry. He wasn't Slim Shady. Relapse was far too outlandish to be Slim Shady.

It was Shady though lol.

Any time he ventures in to fantasy, psychopathic, angry, silly or otherwise... it's Shady.

It's an escapist metaphor.

Relapse is not Eminem. Relapse is Shady.

"Shady man no, don't massacre the fans!"

You arguing with the man who wrote it lol?

As I explained in my version of how Relapse is a concept album, it is an exaggeration of all parts of his career, from Em to Shady. So "Shady man no, don't massacre the fans" is not Shady. The only song on which Em was actually Slim Shady would probably be Underground and Crack a Bottle, two songs that came after what I call his "crash and rehab" songs (Deja Vu and Beautiful).

What Em did on Relapse was that he reflected on his rapping and combined all previous elements together. He used a Slim Shady-esque perspective on the mindset of Marshall Mathers, hence why all of the personal songs i.e. Bagpipes from Baghdad, My Mom, and Insane were exaggerated to an extreme degree. Relapse (except for the last couple of songs) was a combination of all his personas spanning all his albums, including, miraculously, his accent from that album that never came out.

In conclusion....I'm right, you're wrong That's right, I'm challenging the great Embase. I SHALL DETHRONE YOU MOTHERFUCKER!!!

[EminemBase]

As I explained in my version of how Relapse is a concept album, it is an exaggeration of all parts of his career, from Em to Shady. So "Shady man no, don't massacre the fans" is not Shady. The only song on which Em was actually Slim Shady would probably be Underground and Crack a Bottle, two songs that came after what I call his "crash and rehab" songs (Deja Vu and Beautiful).

All of his albums are exaggerations and both Em and Shady. All of them. Because it's not a strict definition as people keep making it. Eminem is Shady, Shady is Eminem. Shady is a reference to the dark, outlandish, absurd and disconnected thoughts of Eminem aka fantasy.

Eminem himself said Shady is back, has referred to Relapse as Shady, refers to himself as Shady multiple times throughout the album... so, you're just disagreeing with the man who created the material on what the material is... Relapse is Shady.

What Em did on Relapse was that he reflected on his rapping and combined all previous elements together. He used a Slim Shady-esque perspective on the mindset of Marshall Mathers, hence why all of the personal songs i.e. Bagpipes from Baghdad, My Mom, and Insane were exaggerated to an extreme degree. Relapse (except for the last couple of songs) was a combination of all his personas spanning all his albums, including, miraculously, his accent from that album that never came out.

I echo what I just previously said; also, Slim Shady is not a specific persona.

Em himself has explained it's a reference to his dark-side, whatever that may be at the time, it's a metaphor and an excuse to be an asshole, outlandish and just escapism; a way to inhibit limitless characteristics, superpowers, evil intent, morph reality, tell a story etc.

This is Relapse. It's exaggerated and extreme yes, as The Slim Shady LP is, as The Marshall Mathers LP is. The content differs slightly as different things are going on in his head or happening in his life, Shady adapts, as it's Eminem's thoughts on X, as Shady. Period.

"Got your girl on my arm and I'm armed with a firearm so big my entire arm's a giant firebomb"

"I'll put a knife in an envelope and have you stabbed in the mail"

< THIS is not exaggerated? Lmao.

He always uses a 'Shady mindset ON Marshall Mathers', because they're not separate characters. The reason Shady makes references to Eminem's real life and visa versa is because there's not a separation, it's just a reference to an element of his personality...

"97 Bonnie and Clyde" was a Shady-esque exaggeration on his life, as was "Criminal", as was "Drug Ballad", as was "Bagpipes from Baghdad". He's always, always always mixed real facts with escapist fantasy, absurd humour etc. etc. on every single album, the only difference with Relapse is that it's more extreme, more abstract and more Shady than Em. Shady inhibits the actions of a serial-killer (always has been, but on Relapse majorly so) and gleeful rapist more than ever as Em was obsessed with that stuff at the time and so uses Shady as a tool to exercise that obsession.

What do you think "Brain Damage" is?... you would agree that's Shady, yes? And you would agree that it's also an exaggerated account of his real life... ? Sound familiar? (COUGH, RELAPSE).

"My Mom" = Like "Brain Damage".

Formula: take element or rumour or event of real life, create a fictional storyline / account with dialogue around that, exaggerate it to the max so that it's an absurd Shady tale.

"Brain Damage": the real life element = him getting beat / bullied. Em takes this reality, morphs it, bends it, creates fiction and exaggeration and dialogue around it, ala Shady.

"My Mom": the real life element = his mom slipping him pills... (then? =) *same as above*.

The accent(s) are not relevant to the content, clearly they're meant to imply he's lost his mind and disconnected from reality more-so than ever, but primarily it's just a rap style. Eminem was running out of ways to sound new, so he went extreme and created a bizarre style. Shady is not a style.

Whatever style Eminem happens to have era to era... is how Shady will sound.

Shady becomes the auteur of whatever dark, funny or creative shit Em decides to experiment with.

Shady has always been a metaphor for escapism, fantasy violence and rebellious anger, it's whatever insanity Em feels like spewing which often involves sexual acts, mutilation, murder, rape, taking drugs ETC. which Relapse is fucking jam-packed with. It's just decidedly darker as Em had just come out of a darker place and it was a concept of relapsing to the extreme and being in a drugged-out murderous rampage... as Shady. Shady is what happens when Em turns dark, period.

There is no specific way Shady speaks or acts; the style depends on Eminem's style of rapping at that time, which changes every album. Eminem was Shady when he was screaming "I just don't give a fuck" and yet also when he was rapping about double D's and dropping E's with Nate Dogg.

Shady IS Eminem. The sound, style and exact thoughts are not what make Shady Shady. Shady is a metaphor and therefore not limited or defined or confined to one persona or thing, it IS Eminem, and it's Eminem when he turns dark or resorts to fantasy or violence or X that is not reality. The reason Eminem created Shady was for the very fact he WOULDN'T be confined to ANYTHING, so it's ironic that people keep trying to limit what Shady is or how 'he' sounds or what he thinks... ironic because it's simply an artistic tool to exploit total freedom of thought, in any direction.

Hence why whenever he spews ANYTHING insane or which goes outside of the norm of real life he refers to the acts as acts of Shady, or refers to himself in that moment as Shady or Slim.

"Ain't he raw? Yeah maniac, that's Shady dog"

"Welcome to the SLIM SHADY Mecca Rebecca"

"Get me on track, they love me when I’m on that stuff!
"But this is Earth calling, Shady man, come on back!""

"Hello! (Hello) allow me to introduce myself. My name is... ? Shady"

"The undisputed, most diabolical villain in the world: Slim... Shady!"

Case closed.

In conclusion....I'm right, you're wrong That's right, I'm challenging the great Embase. I SHALL DETHRONE YOU MOTHERFUCKER!!!

I think not. But commendable effort

[Chet Starr]

hair beach & a 5th of vodka

[Snakebeast]

This isn't over yet, brosif. Time to dissect your argument Embase style

All of his albums are exaggerations and both Em and Shady. All of them. Because it's not a strict definition as people keep making it. Eminem is Shady, Shady is Eminem. Shady is a reference to the dark, outlandish, absurd and disconnected thoughts of Eminem aka fantasy.

I agree with you on this. However, I disagree with you on the last point. I'll explain later in this post.

Eminem himself said Shady is back, has referred to Relapse as Shady, refers to himself as Shady multiple times throughout the album... so, you're just disagreeing with the man who created the material on what the material is... Relapse is Shady.

I feel like I should make myself more clear. Relapse was a combination of everything. Including Slim Shady. And Em calling himself Shady doesn't mean shit. He called himself that on So Bad and WTP.

Em himself has explained it's a reference to his dark-side, whatever that may be at the time, it's a metaphor and an excuse to be an asshole, outlandish and just escapism; a way to inhibit limitless characteristics, superpowers, evil intent, morph reality, tell a story etc.

This is Relapse. It's exaggerated and extreme yes, as The Slim Shady LP is, as The Marshall Mathers LP is. The content differs slightly as different things are going on in his head or happening in his life, Shady adapts, as it's Eminem's thoughts on X, as Shady. Period.

He stated on his autobiography that Slim Shady is the guy that hides behind the filter. Dark and escapist yes. Satanic? No. I forgot to mention a key point about Slim Shady that you're forgetting. He's funny. He mixes comedy in. In both of these quotes you provided me with are wacky...and unrealistic. UNREALISTIC. As you said, Slim Shady is every dark, crazy fantasy. Look at this

"Got your girl on my arm and I'm armed with a firearm so big my entire arm's a giant firebomb"

"I'll put a knife in an envelope and have you stabbed in the mail"

Those are funny punchlines that are obviously wacky and unrealistic. Crazy, dark, but hilarious when you think about it. That's Slim Shady. THIS isn't:

"Debbie, don't let that fucker get you upset
Go in there, stick a fuckin cigarette to his neck
I bet you he's fakin it, I bet you
I bet he probably just wants to see how upset you would get
I'll go handle this, of course, unless you object"
"I'll go fuck his brains out if any's left in his head"

Does that sound funny and wacky to you? I don't know about you, but that gives me the creeps, not make me laugh. Now, that's not to say that Slim Shady is not present on the album. As you said, there is a mix on every album. But on Relapse, its a distorted, creepier version of Slim Shady, if that was even possible.

Comedy and wackiness is replaced by darkness and realism. Instead of rapping about throwing grenades into random people's driveways and driving away, he's rapping in detail about grotesque murder.

He always uses a 'Shady mindset ON Marshall Mathers', because they're not separate characters. The reason Shady makes references to Eminem's real life and visa versa is because there's not a separation, it's just a reference to an element of his personality...

"97 Bonnie and Clyde" was a Shady-esque exaggeration on his life, as was "Criminal", as was "Drug Ballad", as was "Bagpipes from Baghdad". He's always, always always mixed real facts with escapist fantasy, absurd humour etc. etc. on every single album, the only difference with Relapse is that it's more extreme, more abstract and more Shady than Em. Shady inhibits the actions of a serial-killer (always has been, but on Relapse majorly so) and gleeful rapist more than ever as Em was obsessed with that stuff at the time and so uses Shady as a tool to exercise that obsession.

97 Bonnie and Clyde was a fusion of Marshall Mathers and Slim Shady, imo He fused his life with a very realistic depiction of what could happen if he snapped. Drug Ballad is completely Slim Shady, while Criminal is a mix of the three. Bagpipes from Baghdad is a psychotic fusion of Slim Shady and Marshall Mathers. The biggest difference in Relapse isn't that its more abstract/extreme. It's that he actually doesn't sound like he's joking anymore. Slim Shady is not a serial killer. He is not a serial rapist. He's a drunk crazy psycho with possible supernatural powers high on drugs wielding a chainsaw. Em on Relapse was an ACTUAL SERIAL KILLER. Have you EVER heard a Slim Shady-esque song sound like "Same Song and Dance"? That isn't Slim Shady. Slim Shady would make the entire thing comedic and cheerful while choking them to death with a rubber chicken.

What do you think "Brain Damage" is?... you would agree that's Shady, yes? And you would agree that it's also an exaggerated account of his real life... ? Sound familiar? (COUGH, RELAPSE).

"My Mom" = Like "Brain Damage".

Formula: take element or rumour or event of real life, create a fictional storyline / account with dialogue around that, exaggerate it to the max so that it's an absurd Shady tale.

"Brain Damage": the real life element = him getting beat / bullied. Em takes this reality, morphs it, bends it, creates fiction and exaggeration and dialogue around it, ala Shady.

"My Mom": the real life element = his mom slipping him pills... (then? =) *same as above*.

Yes, I agree with you on that Brain Damage was Slim Shady. But it was wacky. Unrealistic. Trying to keep his brains in his head? Sounds comedic and comical when you visualize it. Even though My Mom had a catchy bridge, it sounded...wrong. It wasn't wacky. It felt like it could actually happen. Look at the lyrics. In my opinion, all of it could've actually happened.

The accent(s) are not relevant to the content, clearly they're meant to imply he's lost his mind and disconnected from reality more-so than ever, but primarily it's just a rap style. Eminem was running out of ways to sound new, so he went extreme and created a bizarre style. Shady is not a style.

Whatever style Eminem happens to have era to era... is how Shady will sound.

Shady becomes the auteur of whatever dark, funny or creative shit Em decides to experiment with.

Shady has always been a metaphor for escapism, fantasy violence and rebellious anger, it's whatever insanity Em feels like spewing which often involves sexual acts, mutilation, murder, rape, taking drugs ETC. which Relapse is fucking jam-packed with. It's just decidedly darker as Em had just come out of a darker place and it was a concept of relapsing to the extreme and being in a drugged-out murderous rampage... as Shady. Shady is what happens when Em turns dark, period.

The accent is relevant not to the content, but to the rapping style. His rapping on Relapse was a mixture of everything, as I stated before.

Here's the thing. Eminem was not exactly creative on this album. He retread the same topics, but with a darker, more realistic twist. Shady is NOT what happens when Em turns dark. As I stated above, he is wacky as fuck and NOT grounded in reality (i.e. he can stab a guy through the mail with a knife). The Eminem of Relapse is a REALISTIC SERIAL KILLER. Em even STATED that he studied many serial killers and that he was fascinated by them.

There is no specific way Shady speaks or acts; the style depends on Eminem's style of rapping at that time, which changes every album. Eminem was Shady when he was screaming "I just don't give a fuck" and yet also when he was rapping about double D's and dropping E's with Nate Dogg.

Shady IS Eminem. The sound, style and exact thoughts are not what make Shady Shady. Shady is a metaphor and therefore not limited or defined or confined to one persona or thing, it IS Eminem, and it's Eminem when he turns dark or resorts to fantasy or violence or X that is not reality. The reason Eminem created Shady was for the very fact he WOULDN'T be confined to ANYTHING, so it's ironic that people keep trying to limit what Shady is or how 'he' sounds or what he thinks... ironic because it's simply an artistic tool to exploit total freedom of thought, in any direction.

Hence why whenever he spews ANYTHING insane or which goes outside of the norm of real life he refers to the acts as acts of Shady, or refers to himself in that moment as Shady or Slim.

I agree that there is no specific way Shady speaks or acts. Do you know the Shady of the Relapse era? He was acting it out on both Underground and Crack a Bottle. Both were wacky in their own way. Comedic and kind of gross (Crack a Bottle with the cheese nuts thing and Underground with the cannibal catapault) It was wacky as shit.

You said that Slim Shady has no confines. That's correct. As the character, Em could rap about any wacky thing that came to mind. It was outlandish. Crazy. But on Relapse, he was very focused on one thing. Killing. Not giving the statue of liberty high fives, or pushing the brains back into his head. Just killing. Many different, realistic ways of turning living people into corpses.

Slim Shady is unrealistic. It is impossible to do the things he does. It isn't impossible for things on Relapse to happen. It sounds like a very real depiction of what it would be like if Em was a serial killer.

[EminemBase]

^ You appear to have missed the section with all the Slim Shady self-references ?

[Snakebeast]

^Nope. Looks like someone didn't read the whole thing

I feel like I should make myself more clear. Relapse was a combination of everything. Including Slim Shady. And Em calling himself Shady doesn't mean shit. He called himself that on So Bad and WTP.

[EminemBase]

^Nope. Looks like someone didn't read the whole thing

I feel like I should make myself more clear. Relapse was a combination of everything. Including Slim Shady. And Em calling himself Shady doesn't mean shit. He called himself that on So Bad and WTP.

Right... so the creator himself referring to himself as Shady, doesn't = Shady?

And yeah I know he refers to himself as Shady on "So Bad" and "WTP" because those are Shady records! Do you think Em really breaks women's spines or goes joy riding to white trash parties! Lol.

Shady is Eminem! It's whenever he decides to take a break from reality.

There's not a clear distinction, it's a constant mix.

You're disagreeing with the creator, with no basis other than your own theory then lol...

MY NAME IS... SHAAAADY...

It's not just a reference, he clearly states himself as Shady, fully, clearly. Also, before Relapse came out he said 'Shady was back on this album'. Relapse IS SHADY.

[Snakebeast]

^Nope. Looks like someone didn't read the whole thing

I feel like I should make myself more clear. Relapse was a combination of everything. Including Slim Shady. And Em calling himself Shady doesn't mean shit. He called himself that on So Bad and WTP.

Right... so the creator himself referring to himself as Shady, doesn't = Shady?

And yeah I know he refers to himself as Shady on "So Bad" and "WTP" because those are Shady records! Do you think Em really breaks women's spines or goes joy riding to white trash parties! Lol.

Shady is Eminem! It's whenever he decides to take a break from reality.

There's not a clear distinction, it's a constant mix.

You're disagreeing with the creator, with no basis other than your own theory then lol...

MY NAME IS... SHAAAADY...

It's not just a reference, he clearly states himself as Shady, fully, clearly. Also, before Relapse came out he said 'Shady was back on this album'. Relapse IS SHADY.

You keep saying that Relapse is Shady, but you also say its a constant mix. Make up your mind goddammit

WTP is definitely NOT Slim Shady. It could very clearly happen. It's the first instance of Em using a white trash persona.

And yes, Shady WAS back on Relapse. In a way.

[EminemBase]

You keep saying that Relapse is Shady, but you also say its a constant mix. Make up your mind goddammit

WTP is definitely NOT Slim Shady. It could very clearly happen. It's the first instance of Em using a white trash persona.

And yes, Shady WAS back on Relapse. In a way.

What I mean is, when he's zany, insane etc. etc. on Relapse, that IS Shady, no different from any of his other albums. Just more extreme and a different angle... :/

It's a constant mix because Shady is a part of Eminem, not a separate character. Shady is on every single Eminem album, as is Eminem. As it's just his personality! He's just given a name to sick humour, fantasy violence and storytelling or whatever the fuck else he wants to spew not as himself.

Of course WTP is Shady. Anything absurd, unrealistic or fictional like that is Shady... did Eminem really do those things? No. It's only clearly Eminem when it's a real account aka "Cleanin' Out My Closet", "Going Through Changes"... "When I'm Gone"...

Of course it 'could happen' so could eating babies and raping women. That don't make it Em either.

Not in a way, and it's not a 'he', it's Eminem in a specific mood or creative mindset... Shady never left, it just depends on how dominant Shady was, which varies album to album. On Relapse, it's a dominantly Shady album, like The Slim Shady LP.

[Snakebeast]

You keep saying that Relapse is Shady, but you also say its a constant mix. Make up your mind goddammit

WTP is definitely NOT Slim Shady. It could very clearly happen. It's the first instance of Em using a white trash persona.

And yes, Shady WAS back on Relapse. In a way.

What I mean is, when he's zany, insane etc. etc. on Relapse, that IS Shady, no different from any of his other albums. Just more extreme and a different angle... :/

It's a constant mix because Shady is a part of Eminem, not a separate character. Shady is on every single Eminem album, as is Eminem. As it's just his personality! He's just given a name to sick humour, fantasy violence and storytelling or whatever the fuck else he wants to spew not as himself.

Of course WTP is Shady. Anything absurd, unrealistic or fictional like that is Shady... did Eminem really do those things? No. It's only clearly Eminem when it's a real account aka "Cleanin' Out My Closet", "Going Through Changes"... "When I'm Gone"...

Of course it 'could happen' so could eating babies and raping women. That don't make it Em either.

Not in a way, and it's not a 'he', it's Eminem in a specific mood or creative mindset... Shady never left, it just depends on how dominant Shady was, which varies album to album. On Relapse, it's a dominantly Shady album, like The Slim Shady LP.

No, it is entirely possible that Em did that shit while he was younger. That was realistic. Slim Shady is NOT realistic. He eats rat poison and makes contact with aliens. You said that anything "absurd, unrealistic and fictional" is Slim Shady. Correct. Relapse is realistic. It sounds like it could ACTUALLY happen. And Eminem is the MC part of the person. Marshall Mathers is the one who gets very personal.

Slim Shady LP was wacky and out of this world, as well as hilarious, but with dark themes. Relapse was completely dark and grounded in reality. And fucking CREEPY. Even We Made You sounded like a really disturbing parody of Em's usual singles.

[cityfan31]

You couldn't have a more Shady album than Relapse. It's got 'classic shady' embedded in nearly every track. You could only make a claim for 'Beautiful' not being Shady I think.

My reference point is probably Mockingbird which is very un-shady but even in that song at the end he ends it on a violent 'Shady' note. Not that Shady = violence. To me it = dark humour, violence, depravity and saying the most fucked up, funny shit you can say either because you're aiming it at someone or just for the sake of saying it.

It's probably a false distinction anyway, you can't separate different sides of the whole personality that is Eminem. All you can do is comment on whether songs express more or less of the different facets.

[EminemBase]

You keep saying that Relapse is Shady, but you also say its a constant mix. Make up your mind goddammit

WTP is definitely NOT Slim Shady. It could very clearly happen. It's the first instance of Em using a white trash persona.

And yes, Shady WAS back on Relapse. In a way.

What I mean is, when he's zany, insane etc. etc. on Relapse, that IS Shady, no different from any of his other albums. Just more extreme and a different angle... :/

It's a constant mix because Shady is a part of Eminem, not a separate character. Shady is on every single Eminem album, as is Eminem. As it's just his personality! He's just given a name to sick humour, fantasy violence and storytelling or whatever the fuck else he wants to spew not as himself.

Of course WTP is Shady. Anything absurd, unrealistic or fictional like that is Shady... did Eminem really do those things? No. It's only clearly Eminem when it's a real account aka "Cleanin' Out My Closet", "Going Through Changes"... "When I'm Gone"...

Of course it 'could happen' so could eating babies and raping women. That don't make it Em either.

Not in a way, and it's not a 'he', it's Eminem in a specific mood or creative mindset... Shady never left, it just depends on how dominant Shady was, which varies album to album. On Relapse, it's a dominantly Shady album, like The Slim Shady LP.

No, it is entirely possible that Em did that shit while he was younger. That was realistic. Slim Shady is NOT realistic. He eats rat poison and makes contact with aliens. You said that anything "absurd, unrealistic and fictional" is Slim Shady. Correct. Relapse is realistic. It sounds like it could ACTUALLY happen. And Eminem is the MC part of the person. Marshall Mathers is the one who gets very personal.

Slim Shady LP was wacky and out of this world, as well as hilarious, but with dark themes. Relapse was completely dark and grounded in reality. And fucking CREEPY. Even We Made You sounded like a really disturbing parody of Em's usual singles.

So it's realistic that Em sat in a strip club throwing pennies at strippers?

It's obviously a fictional tale. It's Shady, "Shady's here".

Compared to say, "When I'm Gone" where he says "Yeah, Shady made ME" << he makes a separation, referencing Shady as separate to the guy spitting right there, compared to WTP where he says "SHADY'S HERE".

How the hell is Relapse grounded in reality :/ lmao... it's got to be his most abstract, out of this world album he's ever made....

Putting an umbrella up a woman's cunt and opening it is grounded in reality? It's fantasy, it's storytelling. What about kidnapping Lindsey Lohan and walking up to Britney Spears' house in high-hells or chopping off his ear to send it to her... that's not wacky and out of this world? Lol.

Relapse is also hilarious. Those who don't recognize the humour in it obviously don't get Em's humour, it's packed with brilliant dark, disturbing wit. Just like SSLP.

[CanadaPure]

Getting raped by your step-dad while your mother does nothing and then laying under a lawnmower is totally grounded in reality y0.

[Snakebeast]

I'm having problems fighting both of you at once -_-

Firstly, CanadaPure. You know I idolize you, but I'm afraid Imma hafta beat you to death with words

Getting raped by your step-dad while your mother does nothing and then laying under a lawnmower is totally grounded in reality y0.

Rape isn't exactly outlandish, brosif. Not only that, but once again. I refer to my previous post, where I said the central theme of Relapse was murder and different ways of killing. He isn't taking a meteor shower. Getting killed by a lawnmower could actually happen.

So it's realistic that Em sat in a strip club throwing pennies at strippers?

It's obviously a fictional tale. It's Shady, "Shady's here".

Seriously, bro?

Every fucking rapper has made at least one club/party song. It doesn't mean they're "crazy" or "outlandish".

Compared to say, "When I'm Gone" where he says "Yeah, Shady made ME" << he makes a separation, referencing Shady as separate to the guy spitting right there, compared to WTP where he says "SHADY'S HERE".

Sorry, dude, but I don't take anything someone says while on drugs seriously. Not only that, but that statement DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS your previous point, where you stated that the two were one and the same.

How the hell is Relapse grounded in reality :/ lmao... it's got to be his most abstract, out of this world album he's ever made....

Putting an umbrella up a woman's cunt and opening it is grounded in reality? It's fantasy, it's storytelling. What about kidnapping Lindsey Lohan and walking up to Britney Spears' house in high-hells or chopping off his ear to send it to her... that's not wacky and out of this world? Lol.

Relapse is also hilarious. Those who don't recognize the humour in it obviously don't get Em's humour, it's packed with brilliant dark, disturbing wit. Just like SSLP.

No. No. NO. Relapse is fucking grounded as fuck. Its a serial killer's album. Slim Shady has no focus. He rhymes with whatever he feels like, and makes weird ass imagery that sounds funny while also crazy. The Em on Relapse was VERY VERY FOCUSED. He was completely and utterly focused on his serial killer persona, and would not let go of it.

Raping someone with an umbrella is possible, you know.

And the whole kidnapping thing just proves my point that Em was not Slim Shady. He was a serial killer. He was on a murder spree, and that was what Same Song and Dance was.

Relapse was not fucking hilarious. At all. It was dark as shit, and to me, it sounded like a very, very, dark parody of Eminem. It reminded me of creepypasta, actually.