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Re: Whats Wrong With Em?

Postby xYnDart » Jun 5th, '13, 21:14

This is 2013, Even children know how to use computers.
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Re: Whats Wrong With Em?

Postby xYnDart » Jun 5th, '13, 21:22

I actually want to know the truth, Does he know how to use computer :D
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It controls my pen, that ain't me, it's my evil twin
(I step out and see my evil twin, he gives me an evil grin)
He's just a friend who pops up now and again
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Re: Whats Wrong With Em?

Postby Kill You » Jun 5th, '13, 21:31

I actually agree that he doesn't want to do this anymore...at least for much longer. I think it's really draining him. This upcoming album is probably the most draining for him. He probably feels like he has to impress EVERYONE this time around.
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Re: Whats Wrong With Em?

Postby scrapig » Jun 5th, '13, 21:33

EminemBase wrote:He's always been socially awkward.

Anybody who thinks he wasn't isn't very good at reading people...

I used to be / can be a socially awkward person; very withdrawn, depressive... and he is that character-type. In his early years he was trying to make an impression and so he used zany OTT humour and pretty much lived his alter-ego to overcompensate for lack of actual confidence...

And anybody who knows how to see beneath the surface will totally see his awkwardness no matter what time period we're talking. All those early interviews where he tries to act confident... watch him in-between questions or off moments or the nervous laughs or confusion... that silly exterior was just a way to be somebody else / not face his own awkward self, I know because I used to do it.

And his died hair and new style of thinking with Shady probably solidified it more in his mind that he had license to act crazier, so it made him feel more at ease with being silly.

Now though, he's not coming back as some fresh face you know nothing about with a crazy alter-ego and some never before heard groundbreaking art; he's just himself. There's no died hair or living his silly side as he knows the public know him, he's also older and he's just being himself. He hasn't BECOME socially awkward, he's always been that, and shy, the silliness is just an easy way to overcompensate and try and hide that. He just doesn't hide himself any more which ironically and contrary to how he looks and talks - actually makes him MORE confident.

Eminem is MORE confident now than he was in 1999. In 1999-01 he didn't have the confidence to be himself, to talk like himself or do an interview or have a moment of real thought or contemplation; he constantly play acted as it's a form of masking low self-esteem. Now, he's unafraid to show you what he's naturally like, unafraid to have natural reactions and thoughts, he's NOTTT AFRRAID...

It's almost like a delayed adolescence lmao.

When he first returned, he was trying to convince himself he was the goofy clown (awkward forced silliness in 09 interviews, aside from the Elvis shit which is fucking hilarious), perhaps he felt pressure to be that and maybe due to the fact he was trying to create his old artistry he felt inclined to be that... but that's not really him. Hence why he's not constantly doing voices and being stupid all the time now - real him is relaxed, thoughtful, smart, laid-back...

The most 'real' interview available, is his interview with a guy on NPR radio. If you go seek that out, you will hear some of the most naturally real Eminem thoughts ever, and you can tell he's extremely intelligent, just in the way he phrases things and is also totally on a level with the rather intelligent interviewer, which is probably why he's himself there. As, also like me, Em grew up intelligent but surrounded by idiots, so he developed a goofy exterior to use as a shell to fit in; as he was always afraid (HE WASSS AFRAAID) to show his real intelligent self in front of his dumb goofy macho friends most likely. Which is why his only other response when not comfortable is: withdrawn.

In that interview on NPR, he's talking to a real adult, somebody having an adult conversation with him, and so he's comfortable and lets his guard down. All those zany interviews back in the day he was nervous and afraid to show himself, so he play acted.

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I agree. he said he was socialy awkward as a kid = before his alter ego existed. This makes a lot of sense!
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Re: Whats Wrong With Em?

Postby Sam. » Jun 5th, '13, 21:43

Fell down and I got right back up
But I need that spark to get psyched back up
In order for me to pick the mic back up
I don't know how or why or when I ended up in this position I'm in
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I almost feel like I gotta check the temperature in the room
Just as soon as I walk in
It's like all eyes on me
So I try to avoid any eye contact
'cause if I do that then it opens a door for conversation
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Like I want that... I'm not looking for extra attention
I just want to be just like you


Just felt these parts may sound needed in this thread. Especially the last part..
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Re: Whats Wrong With Em?

Postby xYnDart » Jun 5th, '13, 21:44

And fans dislike Beautiful...
"There's darkness closing in, here it comes again
It controls my pen, that ain't me, it's my evil twin
(I step out and see my evil twin, he gives me an evil grin)
He's just a friend who pops up now and again
So don't blame me, blame him, my evil twin
(I step out and see my evil twin, he gives me an evil grin)"


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Re: Whats Wrong With Em?

Postby Evil Twin » Jun 5th, '13, 21:55

There's nothing wrong with Em...it's most of you people. What now? You have no more music to hate on so you start hating on his entire existence? Grow up! Maybe he doesn't want to be seen because he gets ridiculed for everything...what he says, who he works with, where he goes, what he wears, what colour his hair is, everything. Leave the man alone for God's sake
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Re: Whats Wrong With Em?

Postby xYnDart » Jun 5th, '13, 21:57

"And to my fans, I will NEVER let you down again" Yeah...right

Who actually wants to bet that Menzo is drunk :b:
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It controls my pen, that ain't me, it's my evil twin
(I step out and see my evil twin, he gives me an evil grin)
He's just a friend who pops up now and again
So don't blame me, blame him, my evil twin
(I step out and see my evil twin, he gives me an evil grin)"


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Re: Whats Wrong With Em?

Postby EminemBase » Jun 5th, '13, 22:06

xYnDart wrote:"And to my fans, I will NEVER let you down again" Yeah...right

Who actually wants to bet that Menzo is drunk :b:


How could he 'never let YOU' down? It's a stupid thing to say or expect as there's not just one type of fan who wants one thing first of all.
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Re: Whats Wrong With Em?

Postby xYnDart » Jun 5th, '13, 22:19

Beautiful is underrated.
"There's darkness closing in, here it comes again
It controls my pen, that ain't me, it's my evil twin
(I step out and see my evil twin, he gives me an evil grin)
He's just a friend who pops up now and again
So don't blame me, blame him, my evil twin
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Re: Whats Wrong With Em?

Postby Despicable » Jun 5th, '13, 22:24

EminemBase wrote:He's always been socially awkward.

Anybody who thinks he wasn't isn't very good at reading people...

I used to be / can be a socially awkward person; very withdrawn, depressive... and he is that character-type. In his early years he was trying to make an impression and so he used zany OTT humour and pretty much lived his alter-ego to overcompensate for lack of actual confidence...

And anybody who knows how to see beneath the surface will totally see his awkwardness no matter what time period we're talking. All those early interviews where he tries to act confident... watch him in-between questions or off moments or the nervous laughs or confusion... that silly exterior was just a way to be somebody else / not face his own awkward self, I know because I used to do it.

And his died hair and new style of thinking with Shady probably solidified it more in his mind that he had license to act crazier, so it made him feel more at ease with being silly.

Now though, he's not coming back as some fresh face you know nothing about with a crazy alter-ego and some never before heard groundbreaking art; he's just himself. There's no died hair or living his silly side as he knows the public know him, he's also older and he's just being himself. He hasn't BECOME socially awkward, he's always been that, and shy, the silliness is just an easy way to overcompensate and try and hide that. He just doesn't hide himself any more which ironically and contrary to how he looks and talks - actually makes him MORE confident.

Eminem is MORE confident now than he was in 1999. In 1999-01 he didn't have the confidence to be himself, to talk like himself or do an interview or have a moment of real thought or contemplation; he constantly play acted as it's a form of masking low self-esteem. Now, he's unafraid to show you what he's naturally like, unafraid to have natural reactions and thoughts, he's NOTTT AFRRAID...

It's almost like a delayed adolescence lmao.

When he first returned, he was trying to convince himself he was the goofy clown (awkward forced silliness in 09 interviews, aside from the Elvis shit which is fucking hilarious), perhaps he felt pressure to be that and maybe due to the fact he was trying to create his old artistry he felt inclined to be that... but that's not really him. Hence why he's not constantly doing voices and being stupid all the time now - real him is relaxed, thoughtful, smart, laid-back...

The most 'real' interview available, is his interview with a guy on NPR radio. If you go seek that out, you will hear some of the most naturally real Eminem thoughts ever, and you can tell he's extremely intelligent, just in the way he phrases things and is also totally on a level with the rather intelligent interviewer, which is probably why he's himself there. As, also like me, Em grew up intelligent but surrounded by idiots, so he developed a goofy exterior to use as a shell to fit in; as he was always afraid (HE WASSS AFRAAID) to show his real intelligent self in front of his dumb goofy macho friends most likely. Which is why his only other response when not comfortable is: withdrawn.

In that interview on NPR, he's talking to a real adult, somebody having an adult conversation with him, and so he's comfortable and lets his guard down. All those zany interviews back in the day he was nervous and afraid to show himself, so he play acted.

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Wow..do you know him personally or is this just something you have picked up over the years by watching his interviews?
You write like you know the guy when you really dont.

Back to the topic.
Can you blame EM for being socially awkward after having been away from the spotlight for 3 or 4 years and then coming back sober for the first time in his career?
He also used to have Proof with him wherever he went.

Losing his best friend,becoming sober and coming back into the spotlight after being away for years,cant be an easy thing.Many artists have failed doing that shit.
EM didnt.

Just be glad he still makes music and stop bitching about every little fucking detail.The guy is 40 years old..people seem to think the guy is still in his 20ties or something.
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Re: Whats Wrong With Em?

Postby Hansen » Jun 5th, '13, 22:35

EminemBase wrote:The most 'real' interview available, is his interview with a guy on NPR radio. If you go seek that out, you will hear some of the most naturally real Eminem thoughts ever, and you can tell he's extremely intelligent, just in the way he phrases things and is also totally on a level with the rather intelligent interviewer, which is probably why he's himself there. As, also like me, Em grew up intelligent but surrounded by idiots, so he developed a goofy exterior to use as a shell to fit in; as he was always afraid (HE WASSS AFRAAID) to show his real intelligent self in front of his dumb goofy macho friends most likely. Which is why his only other response when not comfortable is: withdrawn.

In that interview on NPR, he's talking to a real adult, somebody having an adult conversation with him, and so he's comfortable and lets his guard down. All those zany interviews back in the day he was nervous and afraid to show himself, so he play acted.


I just listened to the interview and I have to say that is probably the most honest interview i've ever heard from him. It'd be really cool if he dedicated a whole song to talk about his insecureties throughout his whole career and coming out of his shell on the new album.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =127953120
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Re: Whats Wrong With Em?

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jun 5th, '13, 22:51

Menzo wrote:I wanna have sex with him.

If only i was able to be gay, Eminem would so get it.....
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Re: Whats Wrong With Em?

Postby EminemBase » Jun 5th, '13, 22:53

Despicable wrote:
EminemBase wrote:He's always been socially awkward.

Anybody who thinks he wasn't isn't very good at reading people...

I used to be / can be a socially awkward person; very withdrawn, depressive... and he is that character-type. In his early years he was trying to make an impression and so he used zany OTT humour and pretty much lived his alter-ego to overcompensate for lack of actual confidence...

And anybody who knows how to see beneath the surface will totally see his awkwardness no matter what time period we're talking. All those early interviews where he tries to act confident... watch him in-between questions or off moments or the nervous laughs or confusion... that silly exterior was just a way to be somebody else / not face his own awkward self, I know because I used to do it.

And his died hair and new style of thinking with Shady probably solidified it more in his mind that he had license to act crazier, so it made him feel more at ease with being silly.

Now though, he's not coming back as some fresh face you know nothing about with a crazy alter-ego and some never before heard groundbreaking art; he's just himself. There's no died hair or living his silly side as he knows the public know him, he's also older and he's just being himself. He hasn't BECOME socially awkward, he's always been that, and shy, the silliness is just an easy way to overcompensate and try and hide that. He just doesn't hide himself any more which ironically and contrary to how he looks and talks - actually makes him MORE confident.

Eminem is MORE confident now than he was in 1999. In 1999-01 he didn't have the confidence to be himself, to talk like himself or do an interview or have a moment of real thought or contemplation; he constantly play acted as it's a form of masking low self-esteem. Now, he's unafraid to show you what he's naturally like, unafraid to have natural reactions and thoughts, he's NOTTT AFRRAID...

It's almost like a delayed adolescence lmao.

When he first returned, he was trying to convince himself he was the goofy clown (awkward forced silliness in 09 interviews, aside from the Elvis shit which is fucking hilarious), perhaps he felt pressure to be that and maybe due to the fact he was trying to create his old artistry he felt inclined to be that... but that's not really him. Hence why he's not constantly doing voices and being stupid all the time now - real him is relaxed, thoughtful, smart, laid-back...

The most 'real' interview available, is his interview with a guy on NPR radio. If you go seek that out, you will hear some of the most naturally real Eminem thoughts ever, and you can tell he's extremely intelligent, just in the way he phrases things and is also totally on a level with the rather intelligent interviewer, which is probably why he's himself there. As, also like me, Em grew up intelligent but surrounded by idiots, so he developed a goofy exterior to use as a shell to fit in; as he was always afraid (HE WASSS AFRAAID) to show his real intelligent self in front of his dumb goofy macho friends most likely. Which is why his only other response when not comfortable is: withdrawn.

In that interview on NPR, he's talking to a real adult, somebody having an adult conversation with him, and so he's comfortable and lets his guard down. All those zany interviews back in the day he was nervous and afraid to show himself, so he play acted.

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Wow..do you know him personally or is this just something you have picked up over the years by watching his interviews?
You write like you know the guy when you really dont.

Back to the topic.
Can you blame EM for being socially awkward after having been away from the spotlight for 3 or 4 years and then coming back sober for the first time in his career?
He also used to have Proof with him wherever he went.

Losing his best friend,becoming sober and coming back into the spotlight after being away for years,cant be an easy thing.Many artists have failed doing that shit.
EM didnt.

Just be glad he still makes music and stop bitching about every little fucking detail.The guy is 40 years old..people seem to think the guy is still in his 20ties or something.



1. Many things I say have been said by him himself, I don't make things up.

2. You can tell what kind of person somebody is through their words and behaviour, of which we have a decade + of recording of his, not to mention over 15 years of recorded material which reveals much of his personality and insecurities.

I don't say anything he hasn't at one time or another revealed himself or which isn't painfully obvious from things that he says or how he acts.

Did I invent that he's always been socially awkward? No. Even if he didn't say - it's insanely obvious just by looking at him interact with people, you don't need to know somebody personally to SEE that they're socially awkward. And that's without even mentioning the fact he's stated many times himself that he was and always has been.
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Re: Whats Wrong With Em?

Postby xYnDart » Jun 5th, '13, 23:16

Embase, Do you hang out with Eminem :D
"There's darkness closing in, here it comes again
It controls my pen, that ain't me, it's my evil twin
(I step out and see my evil twin, he gives me an evil grin)
He's just a friend who pops up now and again
So don't blame me, blame him, my evil twin
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