If Love Game is anything like Say What U Say

[Mr Change]

Hate for this song is TOTALLY off

[Kill You]

What the fuck makes you think this will be anything like Say What You Say?

[xNero]

The beat is basic as fuck but I really like it. It hits hard and it just sounds awesome to me.

Saamee.

Damn, if Love Game is a back and forth... It probably won't be, but it'd be great.

[unbound88]

again, hopefully Dre produced this shit

[Satan]

The lyrics...why are they so hated? Well, they're awfully generic for TES' style, the rhyming is just sloppy, plenty of awkward cringe-worthy lines scattered, and everything good is done better in other parts of TES. But Em's last verse is somewhat well done. But Dre...he sounds like an old man on painkillers, he's not good for the ears, his parts aren't good is what I'm saying. The hook and beat are equally atrocious.

[JUMPDMC]

Song's gonna be a classic

[EminemInsider]

Dissing "Say What You Say" means you're not an Eminem fan, period.

You may as well climb the Empire State Building, get to the last step, and then yell, "I'M A COMPLETE FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!!!!"

That's what dissing Say What You Say amounts to.

What fucking morons we have on this board.

[Satan]

yeah how could i ever question the lyrical genius of "sick and twisted mrs. buttersworth" and that gawdly chorus that totally isn't nonsense garbage.

But, ahem, it's just filler, up and down. Everything that's good is done better somewhere else on the album. Nothing stands out. The beat and chorus are both garbage.

[EminemInsider]

yeah how could i ever question the lyrical genius of "sick and twisted mrs. buttersworth" and that gawdly chorus that totally isn't nonsense garbage.

Did you eat paint chips as a baby?



And I'ma pour it on like syrup, bitch/Thick and rich, sick and twisted, Mister Buttersworth/Dre told me to milk this shit for what it's worth

The line makes perfect sense, and it's cool. It's not a cringe-worthy, pathetic, corny punchline like all the horrid lines he's been rapping since Recovery. He used a simile and then rather than turning it into a cringe-inducing punchline, he continued on the "syrup" theme by using adjectives to describe his music and referencing a literal, specific brand of syrup.

This is one of the reasons Say What You Say is infinitely better than any song he's done post-2002, save Deja Vu.

And whining about the hook further reveals the depths of your stupidity. It fits the theme of the track, and it's not some cheesy, ear-splitting high-pitched vocals from a sped up male singer, a female singer, or him layering horrid high/low vocals in his "Drop the World"/"Not Afraid" style.

Let me guess, you're one of those unfathomable dipshits who thinks Eminem says "tired of" too much in "If I Had."

[Satan]

yeah how could i ever question the lyrical genius of "sick and twisted mrs. buttersworth" and that gawdly chorus that totally isn't nonsense garbage.

Did you eat paint chips as a baby?



And I'ma pour it on like syrup, bitch/Thick and rich, sick and twisted, Mister Buttersworth/Dre told me to milk this shit for what it's worth

The line makes perfect sense, and it's cool. It's not a cringe-worthy, pathetic, corny punchline like all the horrid lines he's been rapping since Recovery. He used a simile and then rather than turning it into a cringe-inducing punchline, he continued on the "syrup" theme by using adjectives to describe his music and referencing a literal, specific brand of syrup.

This is one of the reasons Say What You Say is infinitely better than any song he's done post-2002, save Deja Vu.

And whining about the hook further reveals the depths of your stupidity. It fits the theme of the track, and it's not some cheesy, ear-splitting high-pitched vocals from a sped up male singer, a female singer, or him layering horrid high/low vocals in his "Drop the World"/"Not Afraid" style.

Let me guess, you're one of those unfathomable dipshits who thinks Eminem says "tired of" too much in "If I Had."

I lud Mrs. Buttersworth (thanks for the entirely too large picture), just somewhat dislike that simile. About the hook: I hate nearly every hook post-Relapse he's done, save Berzerk. But the hook here, I dunno, just sounds nonsensical. But I did edit my post, but you musta already started your post before mine. Also, If I Had is my 5th favorite song from him, actually.

[Solace]

"If I could only use this power for good, I wouldn't, not even if I could"

Heh, didn't realize this at first.

But it's honestly futile if I don't utilize what I do though
For good at least once in a while

[Amadeo]

Basically, whenever Eminem mentions a common household item, or a company or product that often comes up in middle-class conversation, it's corny by default...no matter how good his rapping is. It's too ordinary and, let's be honest, too white.

You can't have anything in between if you're a rapper. You either have to rap about extreme poverty (food stamps, welfare, minimum wage) or extreme wealth (private jets, jewels, cars, hot women). If you're rapping about syrup brands like Mrs Buttersowrth's or K-Mart, comic books, McDonald's and hot dogs, it becomes corny and awkward.

Well, to pussy white rap fans, that is.

The rhyming isn't sloppy. That's an outrageously stupid claim. Almost as stupid as your opinion that Hailie's Song is trash. What sort of mouth-breather is actually cringing at the lines on Say What You Say?

When I was little I knew I would blow up to sell a mill or grow up to be Atilla, go nuts and be a killer



Catch a contract on your head, you headed west, talk shit about Dre
You better get a vest and invest in something to protect your head and neck
And it's back and forth, all day like Red and Meth
I joke when I say I'm the best, in the booth, but a lot of truth is said in jest
And if I ever do live to be a legend I'mma die a sudden death
Five mics in the Source, ain't holdin' my fuckin' breath
But I'll suffocate for the respect 'fore I breathe to collect a fuckin' check



PS: Didn't know the tagline was "Thick N Rich." Makes the line even cooler.

[Satan]

Basically, whenever Eminem mentions a common household item, or a company or product that often comes up in middle-class conversation, it's corny by default...no matter how good his rapping is. It's too ordinary and, let's be honest, too white.

Goddamn, I just found his simile about syrup and Mrs. Butterworth to be somewhat sub-par, fucking Christ.

You can't have anything in between if you're a rapper. You either have to rap about extreme poverty (food stamps, welfare, minimum wage) or extreme wealth (private jets, jewels, cars, hot women). If you're rapping about syrup brands like Mrs Buttersowrth's or K-Mart, comic books, McDonald's and hot dogs, it becomes corny and awkward.

Eh? It has nothing to do with that.

Well, to pussy white rap fans, that is.

Eh, maybe in the late-90's & early-2000's.

The rhyming isn't sloppy. That's an outrageously stupid claim.

At times, yeah.

Almost as stupid as your opinion that Hailie's Song is trash.

Perhaps it's overplay, but Em's singing grates on me, and his rapped verse is...well...kinda just there. I was indeed exaggerating, it's obviously not trash, but it's just not good imo. I could give no fucks about how much heart Em put into a song, if I don't like it, that's it, no heart can bring that up. Mockingbird was probably heartfelt, but it's in his top 20 worst songs.

What sort of mouth-breather is actually cringing at the lines on Say What You Say?

I thought people were aware that was just a term and nothing more. I haven't cringed at something for a long time, not even Rain Man/Encore in general.

When I was little I knew I would blow up to sell a mill or grow up to be Atilla, go nuts and be a killer

What's funny is that that's probably the best bar in the song.

Catch a contract on your head, you headed west, talk shit about Dre
You better get a vest and invest in something to protect your head and neck
And it's back and forth, all day like Red and Meth
I joke when I say I'm the best, in the booth, but a lot of truth is said in jest
And if I ever do live to be a legend I'mma die a sudden death
Five mics in the Source, ain't holdin' my fuckin' breath
But I'll suffocate for the respect 'fore I breathe to collect a fuckin' check

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Like I said, the last verse isn't that bad.

[cityfan31]

Somebody criticised say what you say?




Christ.

And his verse on hailie's song is amazing.

As is nearly every verse on that album. Effortlessly genius.

[Jason M.]

Heavens, so. SWYS is the most boring track from Eminem Show.

In a world in which WTMS exsists... This can never be true.