Recovery Theory

[xxTrigger1989xx]

I hope he wins too. Recovery is great, but it is a little bit mainstream...actually, a lot of mainstream, but that doesn't make the album bad. I wanna hear him on that MMLP-TES-8 Mile shit, tbh

And...dumb asses...he sold out when SSLP dropped, so...good arguments there

[xxTrigger1989xx]

What the fuck lmao? None of these were good points at all. Relapse has sold over 4.5 million copes. He didn't need to make a shitty mainstream album to let people know he was back. If Eminem created a raw Hip-Hop maserpiece it deffinitely would have sold. Maybe not as much but Eminem's rich so who gives a shit. You're excuse for this album is fucking laughable.

Did he sell out? Without a doubt. Has he gone soft? Deffinitely. Is he mainstream? For sure now

Is his music good? Hell no. Can he still spit hot fire? Absolutely not.

That IS opinion

(Sorry for double-posting, mods )

[shadyboymez]

i think it all depends what comes next. if he doesn't go back to not giving a fuck and just freely spitting what's on his mind then i will say he is not a sell-out

but if he continues with horrible collabos and goes with the mainstream beat selection, i'll have my doubts

the excuse that he's old now isn't good enough./ if he can make Relapse at age 36 or w/e then i think he can still have a little crazy side to him at 38 or 39

look at Tech N9ne, he doesn't give a fuck EVER

[Master Chief]

What the fuck lmao? None of these were good points at all. Relapse has sold over 4.5 million copes. He didn't need to make a shitty mainstream album to let people know he was back. If Eminem created a raw Hip-Hop maserpiece it deffinitely would have sold. Maybe not as much but Eminem's rich so who gives a shit. You're excuse for this album is fucking laughable.

Did he sell out? Without a doubt. Has he gone soft? Deffinitely. Is he mainstream? For sure now

Is his music good? Hell no. Can he still spit hot fire? Absolutely not.

That IS opinion

(Sorry for double-posting, mods )

Actually all of that is opinion

[classthe_king]

What the fuck lmao? None of these were good points at all. Relapse has sold over 4.5 million copes. He didn't need to make a shitty mainstream album to let people know he was back. If Eminem created a raw Hip-Hop maserpiece it deffinitely would have sold. Maybe not as much but Eminem's rich so who gives a shit. You're excuse for this album is fucking laughable.

Did he sell out? Without a doubt. Has he gone soft? Deffinitely. Is he mainstream? For sure now

Is his music good? Hell no. Can he still spit hot fire? Absolutely not.

That IS opinion

(Sorry for double-posting, mods )

Actually all of that is opinion

The first paragraph was not opinion

[Master Chief]

My bad, the first paragraph is wrong

[classthe_king]

What's wrong about it? Oh that's right, nothing.

[Master Chief]

What's wrong about it? Oh that's right, nothing.

The fact that Eminem had 8 millions fans on FB before Recovery is actually enough. Recovery = mainstream success without selling out.

[shadyboymez]

i think it's all the fans that have been following Em since the SSLP days or even before then that know Recovery just isn't him, then there's all the youngsters who think LTWYL is the greatest song ever. Can't win em all, but i really liked Relapse and felt that there wasn't a need for such a drastic change.

[classthe_king]

What's wrong about it? Oh that's right, nothing.

The fact that Eminem had 8 millions fans on FB before Recovery is actually enough. Recovery = mainstream success without selling out.

You just proved my point? He had 8 million fans before Recovery. He didn't need to make some shitty mainstream album to sell records and get his name out again.

[Master Chief]

What's wrong about it? Oh that's right, nothing.

The fact that Eminem had 8 millions fans on FB before Recovery is actually enough. Recovery = mainstream success without selling out.

You just proved my point? He had 8 million fans before Recovery. He didn't need to make some shitty mainstream album to sell records and get his name out again.

Then he released Recovery and got 15 million fans in the span of 8 months. So, yes he did have to make Recovery to not fade away.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

My bad, the first paragraph is wrong

what's wrong about it lmao!! he wrote undeniable facts

The first paragraph was just his thoughts on it

The rest of it is NOT fact. Especially the part I put in bold in my last post. It's entirely up to the listener to decide if the music is good to them or not. And as far as selling-out goes...he sold out in 1999, bro...Recovery is more mainstream than his other albums, but that DOES NOT dictate a sell-out. It's not like he truly dumbed down his lyrics for the sake of selling. He chose more appealing topics and beats, but the lyrics are still as unfiltered as ever. If Em truly sold out, Cold Wind Blows wouldn't even exist on that album and every other song will be a LTWYL-clone

[Master Chief]

8 milli fans is not fading away...

he could've made real music, that the 8 milli appreciated, rather then sell out to get 20 million more

Eminem = best selling rapper ever & best selling artist of the decade with 8 million fans and barely any attention? That doesn't add up, now does it?

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Plus, when Relapse was first released, you know how many people I heard saying "this is not Eminem"? A lot...personally, I loved Relapse at the time and still do, but Relapse wasn't EXACTLY as Eminem as people make it out to be

[classthe_king]

No he didn't lmfao. He just got more, he didn't need any of that. Eminem is going to sell regardless. If the OP is right then Eminem deffinitely sold out and is the biggest bitch in the music industry.


And no Eminem did not sell out on the SSLP. He made one sellout song in My Name Is to get radio airplay so people would listen to his shit but theres nothing wrong with that and he still made amazing music. On Recovery he didn't need any of that.