There is no Relapse 2.

[SG.]

To whoever said Steve Berman was a fictional character, you're wrong. He's the vice-president of Interscope.

[Kill You]

Where do you guys think "Cocaine" fits? You think it was intended for R2 as well?

Maybe the "more emotional" Relapse 2 he was working on...which ultimately turned into Recovery. I say that because he uses the accent at the end. "Relapsing back in this game, oh well, fuck it then."

[KickflipCaleb]

"Relapse 2 exists... but dont ya'll get your panties in a bunch because more than half of it was released anyway either on Recovery or on Refill or as a leak. "

Thisss is what I was trying to say. I doubt there really just laying around. They may have been scrapped, leaked, remade etc.

As for Steve Berman, I just assumed he was some manager for interscope or something, seeing as Paul is a real person.

[KickflipCaleb]

People referring to skits and lyrics in songs while trying to look like they know more than one another is being stupid. So all the Paul calls Em skits are real to, eh?

Thank you...

[KickflipCaleb]

To whoever said Steve Berman was a fictional character, you're wrong. He's the vice-president of Interscope.

LOL. So confused right now....

[Amaranthine]

To whoever said Steve Berman was a fictional character, you're wrong. He's the vice-president of Interscope.

Everything you ever wanted to know about Steve Berman.

[SliK]

To whoever said Steve Berman was a fictional character, you're wrong. He's the vice-president of Interscope.

Everything you ever wanted to know about Steve Berman.

MIND = BLOWN

[SliK]

lol get off my nuts faggot

*waits for menzo to jump in*

[Solace]

Okay guys can we get something cleared up here? People say he changed directions while recording R2 (which came songs like On Fire & Cocaine POSSIBLY) and eventually it changed so much that he decided to scrap the idea of Relapse 2 and move onto Recovery. Now why oh why would he change directions while recording Relapse 2 when Relapse 2 was just supposed to be songs from the same 2008-2009 sessions that Relapse 1 came from? There was no change in direction, Relapse 2 was already recorded! The entire point of Relapse 2 was to bring more music for the fans from the sessions that Relapse 1 came from. He obviously planned to cancel Relapse 2 so that he could record a new album, and planned to never release a second Relapse.

Or am I missing some crucial point?

[momentsgolden]

Okay guys can we get something cleared up here? People say he changed directions while recording R2 (which came songs like On Fire & Cocaine POSSIBLY) and eventually it changed so much that he decided to scrap the idea of Relapse 2 and move onto Recovery. Now why oh why would he change directions while recording Relapse 2 when Relapse 2 was just supposed to be songs from the same 2008-2009 sessions that Relapse 1 came from? There was no change in direction, Relapse 2 was already recorded! The entire point of Relapse 2 was to bring more music for the fans from the sessions that Relapse 1 came from. He obviously planned to cancel Relapse 2 so that he could record a new album, and planned to never release a second Relapse.

Or am I missing some crucial point?

Relapse was written and released in 2009. Most of Recovery was created in 2009. In 2009 he had such a creative peak that there is no distinct period between the writing process so thats why its shady.

Put simply, he created 2 albums worth of songs BEFORE releasing Relapse to which he condensed it to what we received. Immediately afterwards, he attempted to create an ALBUM from the writings and songs left over so he had to go in the studio and continue that creative process with Relapse 2 in mind and that whole theme. However, he then incorporated Just Blaze, Mr Porter, Kahlil etc and as they came in the picture, the writing changed and the direction of the album was shifted. Thats were Recovery tracks come from.

[Solace]

Can anyone validate what momentsgolden stated?

[momentsgolden]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeIbmIWK ... ure=relmfu

^November 20th 2009.

[Solace]

Thank you.

[MikeNUFC]

It's pretty simple.

He made a few albums worth of Relapse type songs. Planned to release 2 Relapse albums
Released Relapse
Had a few recording sessions, , including Hawaii session (On Fire, So Bad etc), and met with other producers
Decided to not release Relapse 2 and make Recovery (few songs already made in that direction)
Released an EP (Refill) of some R2 songs to tide fans over
Released Recovery

Done.

[EminemBase]

Where do you guys think "Cocaine" fits? You think it was intended for R2 as well?

Anything not produced by Dre, was not Relapse 2 material. The original material.

He has the Recovery style on it, the content is different, it uses a sample, it's Recovery.