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Re: Recovery Theory

Postby Scrubz » Feb 19th, '11, 18:41

classthe_king wrote:No he didn't lmfao. He just got more, he didn't need any of that. Eminem is going to sell regardless. If the OP is right then Eminem deffinitely sold out and is the biggest bitch in the music industry.


And no Eminem did not sell out on the SSLP. He made one sellout song in My Name Is to get radio airplay so people would listen to his shit but theres nothing wrong with that and he still made amazing music. On Recovery he didn't need any of that.

How would you know? You claimed to not have listened to em in years...
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Re: Recovery Theory

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Feb 19th, '11, 18:42

classthe_king wrote:No he didn't lmfao. He just got more, he didn't need any of that. Eminem is going to sell regardless. If the OP is right then Eminem deffinitely sold out and is the biggest bitch in the music industry.


And no Eminem did not sell out on the SSLP. He made one sellout song in My Name Is to get radio airplay so people would listen to his shit but theres nothing wrong with that and he still made amazing music. On Recovery he didn't need any of that.


The general public DID NOT like Relapse. A lot of fans were saying "this isn't Eminem" only the hardcore fans bought Relapse. I fucking bought Relapse, but I'm not dumb enough to know that Relapse was poorly received compared to Recovery

So LTWYL/Not Afraid would be his "My Name Is"...you can tell those songs were made to be singles, Not Afraid is one of the last songs he made because they probably told him they need a good first single...ya know, like they do EVERY TIME

And your opinions on Recovery are your opinions. Not everyone shares them, get over it
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Re: Recovery Theory

Postby classthe_king » Feb 19th, '11, 18:43

Menzo wrote:
classthe_king wrote:No he didn't lmfao. He just got more, he didn't need any of that. Eminem is going to sell regardless. If the OP is right then Eminem deffinitely sold out and is the biggest bitch in the music industry.


And no Eminem did not sell out on the SSLP. He made one sellout song in My Name Is to get radio airplay so people would listen to his shit but theres nothing wrong with that and he still made amazing music. On Recovery he didn't need any of that.


Considering Em wasn't getting the appraisal he deserved after Relapse, he kinda DID need that...


He didn't get any appraisal because Relapse wasn't good...it was a bullshit album about nothing in his stupid accent. If he made a "raw hip hop masterpice" he would have got all the appraisal in the world.

@ Wasunt :facepalm I haven't listened to Eminem in months* Big difference

@ Trigger, and the point of that post was?
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Re: Recovery Theory

Postby dR3 » Feb 19th, '11, 18:43

classthe_king wrote:What the fuck lmao? None of these were good points at all. Relapse has sold over 4.5 million copes. He didn't need to make a shitty mainstream album to let people know he was back. If Eminem created a raw Hip-Hop maserpiece it deffinitely would have sold. Maybe not as much but Eminem's rich so who gives a shit. You're excuse for this album is fucking laughable.

Thing is, he lost quite a few fans while he was on hiatus, and he needed a more appealing album than Relapse to gain those & more new fans back.

classthe_king wrote:Did he sell out? Without a doubt.

How did he sell out? By doing a few collabs with artists that are not in the rap industry?

classthe_king wrote:Has he gone soft? Deffinitely.

How did he go soft? Listen to Cold Wind Blows, On Fire, Almost Famous, Cinderella Man, So Bad, Untitled... The man still has the ability to impress.

classthe_king wrote:Is he mainstream? For sure now

For sure now? He has sold more than 80 million copies worldwide, he has been mainstream since he signed to Aftermath.

classthe_king wrote:Is his music good? Hell no.

Some of it still is.

classthe_king wrote:Can he still spit hot fire? Absolutely not.

Yes he can, I'm gonna list the songs I mentioned above - CWB, On Fire, Almost Famous...
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Re: Recovery Theory

Postby Master Chief » Feb 19th, '11, 18:45

To the people that suck Relapse's dick: Do you think 3 AM was Eminem? Honestly. He's acting like a serial killer in a middle eastern accent. Is THAT Eminem?

What about Insane?

Seriously, Eminem rapping in an accent is NOT Eminem. Relapse is just as non-Eminem as Recovery. Just because he's being crazy again doesn't mean anything because in that case Recovery is just as Eminem because he's being emotionally driven.

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Re: Recovery Theory

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Feb 19th, '11, 18:47

classthe_king wrote:
Menzo wrote:
classthe_king wrote:No he didn't lmfao. He just got more, he didn't need any of that. Eminem is going to sell regardless. If the OP is right then Eminem deffinitely sold out and is the biggest bitch in the music industry.


And no Eminem did not sell out on the SSLP. He made one sellout song in My Name Is to get radio airplay so people would listen to his shit but theres nothing wrong with that and he still made amazing music. On Recovery he didn't need any of that.


Considering Em wasn't getting the appraisal he deserved after Relapse, he kinda DID need that...


He didn't get any appraisal because Relapse wasn't good...it was a bullshit album about nothing in his stupid accent. If he made a "raw hip hop masterpice" he would have got all the appraisal in the world.


What the fuck? Then you just totally contradict yourself. If Relapse was garbage to you, then OF COURSE he needed to change direction and dismiss Relapse :facepalm

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Re: Recovery Theory

Postby classthe_king » Feb 19th, '11, 18:48

dR3 wrote:
classthe_king wrote:What the fuck lmao? None of these were good points at all. Relapse has sold over 4.5 million copes. He didn't need to make a shitty mainstream album to let people know he was back. If Eminem created a raw Hip-Hop maserpiece it deffinitely would have sold. Maybe not as much but Eminem's rich so who gives a shit. You're excuse for this album is fucking laughable.

Thing is, he lost quite a few fans while he was on hiatus, and he needed a more appealing album than Relapse to gain those & more new fans back.

classthe_king wrote:Did he sell out? Without a doubt.

How did he sell out? By doing a few collabs with artists that are not in the rap industry?

classthe_king wrote:Has he gone soft? Deffinitely.

How did he go soft? Listen to Cold Wind Blows, On Fire, Almost Famous, Cinderella Man, So Bad, Untitled... The man still has the ability to impress.

classthe_king wrote:Is he mainstream? For sure now

For sure now? He has sold more than 80 million copies worldwide, he has been mainstream since he signed to Aftermath.

classthe_king wrote:Is his music good? Hell no.

Some of it still is.

classthe_king wrote:Can he still spit hot fire? Absolutely not.

Yes he can, I'm gonna list the songs I mentioned above - CWB, On Fire, Almost Famous...


Why does he need all these new teeny boppers as fans? Wouldn't he rather appeal to hip-hop fans with a good album?

Don't tell me to listen to Recovery lmao, that album is bullshit and all those songs suck. Just because this forum and all the 15 year old girls of America like it and bought it doesn't mean its good. I've been going to a lot of other Hip-Hop forums recently and NONE of them like Eminem or Recovery now. It's just this site cause you guys are all blind stans
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Re: Recovery Theory

Postby WakeUpShow » Feb 19th, '11, 18:48

Master Chief wrote:To the people that suck Relapse's dick: Do you think 3 AM was Eminem? Honestly. He's acting like a serial killer in a middle eastern accent. Is THAT Eminem?

What about Insane?

Seriously, Eminem rapping in an accent is NOT Eminem. Relapse is just as non-Eminem as Recovery. Just because he's being crazy again doesn't mean anything because in that case Recovery is just as Eminem because he's being emotionally driven.

Your logic sucks.

anything he puts out is Eminem. Because he is Eminem. Every album he has put out has sounded different, so Idk what you're basing this off of.
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Re: Recovery Theory

Postby classthe_king » Feb 19th, '11, 18:48

Menzo wrote:Ugh :facepalm Then his corny 'sell out' single was necessary then, like all the other fuckin albums.


It was the whole album, not just one song
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Re: Recovery Theory

Postby classthe_king » Feb 19th, '11, 18:49

Master Chief wrote:To the people that suck Relapse's dick: Do you think 3 AM was Eminem? Honestly. He's acting like a serial killer in a middle eastern accent. Is THAT Eminem?

What about Insane?

Seriously, Eminem rapping in an accent is NOT Eminem. Relapse is just as non-Eminem as Recovery. Just because he's being crazy again doesn't mean anything because in that case Recovery is just as Eminem because he's being emotionally driven.

Your logic sucks.


I don't like Relapse either.
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Re: Recovery Theory

Postby Master Chief » Feb 19th, '11, 18:50

Dismiss class_theking. He has listened to Recovery ONCE and has never listened to it again. Plus, he never finished Cold Wind Blows or listened to Untitled.

His opinion/posts/views/thoughts should not be taken seriously or considered in a debate or dissusion about Eminem or Recovery in particular.
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Re: Recovery Theory

Postby classthe_king » Feb 19th, '11, 18:50

xxTrigger1989xx wrote:What the fuck? Then you just totally contradict yourself. If Relapse was garbage to you, then OF COURSE he needed to change direction and dismiss Relapse :facepalm

Goddamn, you got YOURSELF, I applaud you


How did I contradict myself? Find somewhere I said he should stay on the course of Relapse. LMFAO
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Re: Recovery Theory

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Feb 19th, '11, 18:50

classthe_king wrote:
Master Chief wrote:To the people that suck Relapse's dick: Do you think 3 AM was Eminem? Honestly. He's acting like a serial killer in a middle eastern accent. Is THAT Eminem?

What about Insane?

Seriously, Eminem rapping in an accent is NOT Eminem. Relapse is just as non-Eminem as Recovery. Just because he's being crazy again doesn't mean anything because in that case Recovery is just as Eminem because he's being emotionally driven.

Your logic sucks.


I don't like Relapse either.


You've been defending it because it's "less mainstream" than Recovery

Sounds to me like you just simply hate anything mainstream :coffee:
That's the fucking point we try to make every time, and you totally ignore it because you think you're right all the time. SMH. Fuck this argument
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Re: Recovery Theory

Postby Master Chief » Feb 19th, '11, 18:53

Cosh wrote:
Master Chief wrote:To the people that suck Relapse's dick: Do you think 3 AM was Eminem? Honestly. He's acting like a serial killer in a middle eastern accent. Is THAT Eminem?

What about Insane?

Seriously, Eminem rapping in an accent is NOT Eminem. Relapse is just as non-Eminem as Recovery. Just because he's being crazy again doesn't mean anything because in that case Recovery is just as Eminem because he's being emotionally driven.

Your logic sucks.

anything he puts out is Eminem. Because he is Eminem. Every album he has put out has sounded different, so Idk what you're basing this off of.

If everything Eminem is Eminem then why do idiots say Recovery isn't Eminem? :unsure:
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Re: Recovery Theory

Postby MikeNUFC » Feb 19th, '11, 18:54

Master Chief wrote:To the people that suck Relapse's dick: Do you think 3 AM was Eminem? Honestly. He's acting like a serial killer in a middle eastern accent. Is THAT Eminem?

What about Insane?

Seriously, Eminem rapping in an accent is NOT Eminem. Relapse is just as non-Eminem as Recovery. Just because he's being crazy again doesn't mean anything because in that case Recovery is just as Eminem because he's being emotionally driven.

Your logic sucks.


It's Eminem showing he can rhyme amazingly again. It shows he can still write well. It's the beat selection. It's the cool flows.

Recovery didn't sound like an Eminem album because of the shitty beat selection, his writin style (bar-splitting is so amateur) and his weak flows. It's still decent but Relapse sounds more like Eminem.

Not because of the content, because of the execution.

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