Why Sadistik is better than current Eminem

[GenePeer]

I dont need evidence this aint a trial.

I dont want to state the obvious, but everyone knows that Eminem is one of the best in the game, if not the best. His lyrical ability is incredible, just look at tracks on Relapse (and some say thats lyrically up there with his earlier albums).

Eminem is better at story telling, his concepts are better. Just look at songs like 25 to Life, The Reunion, Same song and Dance etc.

I could go on, but i dont see why this is really important to you? Whats it even matter? And yes i know why i like Eminem, i was probably listening to him before you was able to walk.

You enter a discussion and when you're asked to back up your statements, then "it's not a trial"! People debate every single hour, it's what forums are for. Not just "NEW EMINEM TRACK/ALBUM/LEAK".

You see that's where you're going wrong. Saying "it's obvious, everyone knows." It's not and everyone doesn't, that's why topics like this were created in the first place!

So his concepts are better and you give "25 To Life" & "The Reunion". One's a concept that's been done to death by tones of rapper and I give original credit to Common for making "I Used to Love H.E.R." the latter, though good storytelling, is still telling a rather boring and uncreative story to begin with. What's so surprising about Eminem's poor relationship with women? "Stan" was creative, " The Reunion" was not.

Why is it important to me? It's not. I'm just trying to have a decent late-night discussion but you seem to be hostile for whatever reason. Good for you for being older than me, want a prize now?

[Drug.Ballad]

I dont need evidence this aint a trial.

I dont want to state the obvious, but everyone knows that Eminem is one of the best in the game, if not the best. His lyrical ability is incredible, just look at tracks on Relapse (and some say thats lyrically up there with his earlier albums).

Eminem is better at story telling, his concepts are better. Just look at songs like 25 to Life, The Reunion, Same song and Dance etc.

I could go on, but i dont see why this is really important to you? Whats it even matter? And yes i know why i like Eminem, i was probably listening to him before you was able to walk.

This is the fine line Satire was talking about. Are you trolling or just retarded?

I state that Sadistik is better than Eminem and why. You state Eminem is better than Sadistik.

That means I WIN. His lyrical ability is incredible? Have you ever listened to anything outside of that bullshit UK music. Of course Eminem looks incredible compared to Giggs and fucking K Koke, they're god awful. All I did in the OP was state facts. All you do is state bullshit.

Theres no need to hate on other artists. And you said why, yes all you did was say your opinion.
Did you not read the post you just quoted when i also said WHY Eminem was better?

[Drug.Ballad]

You enter a discussion and when you're asked to back up your statements, then "it's not a trial"! People debate every single hour, it's what forums are for. Not just "NEW EMINEM TRACK/ALBUM/LEAK".

You see that's where you're going wrong. Saying "it's obvious, everyone knows." It's not and everyone doesn't, that's why topics like this were created in the first place!

So his concepts are better and you give "25 To Life" & "The Reunion". One's a concept that's been done to death by tones of rapper and I give original credit to Common for making "I Used to Love H.E.R." the latter, though good storytelling, is still telling a rather boring and uncreative story to begin with. What's so surprising about Eminem's poor relationship with women? "Stan" was creative, " The Reunion" was not.

Why is it important to me? It's not. I'm just trying to have a decent late-night discussion but you seem to be hostile for whatever reason. Good for you for being older than me, want a prize now?

I dont mean to come across as hostile, i jus dont usually bother with these types of discussion because i dont see the point, as its opinion, no one is going to change their mind and theres never gonna be an definitive outcome on who's the better rapper.

And yes the concept in 25 to Life has been done before, but that doesnt stop it from being a good song. Better story telling tracks you've got Same Song and Dance and Stay Wide Awake.

[classthe_king]

I dont need evidence this aint a trial.

I dont want to state the obvious, but everyone knows that Eminem is one of the best in the game, if not the best. His lyrical ability is incredible, just look at tracks on Relapse (and some say thats lyrically up there with his earlier albums).

Eminem is better at story telling, his concepts are better. Just look at songs like 25 to Life, The Reunion, Same song and Dance etc.

I could go on, but i dont see why this is really important to you? Whats it even matter? And yes i know why i like Eminem, i was probably listening to him before you was able to walk.

This is the fine line Satire was talking about. Are you trolling or just retarded?

I state that Sadistik is better than Eminem and why. You state Eminem is better than Sadistik.

That means I WIN. His lyrical ability is incredible? Have you ever listened to anything outside of that bullshit UK music. Of course Eminem looks incredible compared to Giggs and fucking K Koke, they're god awful. All I did in the OP was state facts. All you do is state bullshit.

Theres no need to hate on other artists. And you said why, yes all you did was say your opinion.
Did you not read the post you just quoted when i also said WHY Eminem was better?

Nowhere there did you say why You just stated vague things with no proof. I stated precise, unobjective facts. You stated bullshit. Eminem has better concepts my ass. Bed of Flowers is a better concept than anything Eminem has done lately.

[GenePeer]

I've lost inspiration for this thread. I'm done! Can't say I didn't try

[classthe_king]

Take the other side and we can argue

[Drug.Ballad]

Eminem is a better lyricist than Sadistik by far.

Yesterday my dog died, I hog tied a ho, tied her in a bow
So the next time you blog try to spit a flow
You want to criticize, dog? Try a little more
I'm so tired of this I could blow, fire in the hole
I'm fired up so fire up the lighter and the dro
Better hold on a little tighter here I go
Flows tighter, hot headed as Ghostrider
Cold hearted as Spiderman throwing a spider in the snow
So you better get lower than Flo-rida
Inside of a lowrider with no tires in the hole
Why am I like this? Why is winter cold?
Why is it when I talk I'm so biased to the hoes
Listen dog, Christmas is off, this is as soft as it gets
This isn't golf this is a blistering assault
Those are your wounds this is the salt, so get lost
Shit dissing me is just like pissing off the Wizard of Oz
Wrap a lizard in gauze beat you in the jaws with it
Grab the scissors and saws and cut out your livers gizzards and balls
Throw you in the middle of the ocean in the blizzard with Jaws
So sip piss like sizzurp through a straw
Then describe how it tasted like dessert to us all
Got the gall to make Chris piss in his drawers
Tickle him, go to his grave, skip him and visit his dog

Its not even close. His flow, rhyming and delievery on this shits all over Sadistik's. And this isnt even one of my favourite songs off of Recovery.

Class, do you agree that Eminem (overall) is better than Sadistik? and not just comparing 'current' Eminem.

[GenePeer]

Take the other side and we can argue

Sadistik has to change producers to stop his songs from being so "sadly-monotonous". I love his songs and all, but I just can't listen to his full discography without thinking, "Shit, who am I kidding? I ain't this depressed." They may not all be about feeling sorry, but they do sound like it (Searching for Some Beautiful)! Same thing goes for Eminem's Relapse which was good but overall too dark for my taste. At least, Eminem changes how he sounds constantly so I'm pretty sure this whole shouting-at-bitches phase will soon pass, just like the Relapse's psycho phase.

[classthe_king]

Eminem is a better lyricist than Sadistik by far.

Yesterday my dog died, I hog tied a ho, tied her in a bow
So the next time you blog try to spit a flow
You want to criticize, dog? Try a little more
I'm so tired of this I could blow, fire in the hole
I'm fired up so fire up the lighter and the dro
Better hold on a little tighter here I go
Flows tighter, hot headed as Ghostrider
Cold hearted as Spiderman throwing a spider in the snow
So you better get lower than Flo-rida
Inside of a lowrider with no tires in the hole
Why am I like this? Why is winter cold?
Why is it when I talk I'm so biased to the hoes
Listen dog, Christmas is off, this is as soft as it gets
This isn't golf this is a blistering assault
Those are your wounds this is the salt, so get lost
Shit dissing me is just like pissing off the Wizard of Oz
Wrap a lizard in gauze beat you in the jaws with it
Grab the scissors and saws and cut out your livers gizzards and balls
Throw you in the middle of the ocean in the blizzard with Jaws
So sip piss like sizzurp through a straw
Then describe how it tasted like dessert to us all
Got the gall to make Chris piss in his drawers
Tickle him, go to his grave, skip him and visit his dog

Its not even close. His flow, rhyming and delievery on this shits all over Sadistik's. And this isnt even one of my favourite songs off of Recovery.

WTF? How is that a good verse at all? I highlighted all of the rhymes for you...they don't come close to the verse I picked. Just by looking at it not in quantity and DEFINITELY not in quality. Eminem rhymes very generic things, not that many syllables. Plus he forces rhymes like no other. Sadistik is extremely creative with his rhymes; lost pathetic dreamer, walkin dead demeanor, coughing emphysema, coffins in between a, Andre Nikatina.

Flow? No. Granted, Eminem's flow on that was better than most of his Recovery shit but it's still not nearly as smooth as Sadistik's, the way he will arbitually place pauses ruins the flow. And lyrically this doesn't touch Sadistik's. It was just him trying to show off his rhyming (which wasn't as good) and talking about how crazy he is uses unwitty and horrible punchlines.

Class, do you agree that Eminem (overall) is better than Sadistik? and not just comparing 'current' Eminem.

No.

[classthe_king]

I seriously don't get how emo rap has any replay value. I used to be into Atmosphere and then subsequently Slug as a solo artist and after a couple listens through, their CD's became coasters and things i'd break up drugs on. Granted i really haven't given Sadistik a chance but if his material is anything like who i mentioned above then ill gladly pass and just let this humorous argument continue.

Well there isn't really anything to say to this other than what rap do you like to listen to? Because Eminem isn't the best rhymer, he isn't the best at punchlines, he isn't the best at horrorcore, there isn't really anything he's the best at.

[Willy]

Sadistik sounds like a backwards hat. No thanks.

[GenePeer]

he forces rhymes like no other. Sadistik is extremely creative with his rhymes

Forcing rhymes, Creative rhymes: Same shit, different toilet!

[classthe_king]

he forces rhymes like no other. Sadistik is extremely creative with his rhymes

Forcing rhymes, Creative rhymes: Same shit, different toilet!

Not at all.

[Drug.Ballad]

How is:

Similar to the kid named Rakim will do
I'm identical to that of Pac's mental too
I rock spiritual without a break or stop interval
I'm from the state where the rain will never stop
Hendrix was from and Cobain perfected rock

Better than:

Shit dissing me is just like pissing off the Wizard of Oz
Wrap a lizard in gauze beat you in the jaws with it
Grab the scissors and saws and cut out your livers gizzards and balls
Throw you in the middle of the ocean in the blizzard with Jaws
So sip piss like sizzurp through a straw

Eminem beats him hands down, on both quantity and quality of lyrics.

[SajN]

How is:

Similar to the kid named Rakim will do
I'm identical to that of Pac's mental too
I rock spiritual without a break or stop interval
I'm from the state where the rain will never stop
Hendrix was from and Cobain perfected rock

Better than:

Shit dissing me is just like pissing off the Wizard of Oz
Wrap a lizard in gauze beat you in the jaws with it
Grab the scissors and saws and cut out your livers gizzards and balls
Throw you in the middle of the ocean in the blizzard with Jaws
So sip piss like sizzurp through a straw

Eminem beats him hands down, on both quantity and quality of lyrics.

I can also take a part from Eminem with not so good rhymes... Want me to show you Mockingbird?


Eminem is my favourite rapper, btw.