Rate Rap God

[Jimmy Conway]

You have to compare it to his old work. Why wouldn't you. If I'm back is a 10 and Rap God is worse, then it's not a ten. You can't say, well today's rap sucks and ems old so that makes it a ten.

[The Monster]

Couldn't even keep up with the track, wish he would have toned it down a bit with the way he was rapping, but probably would have been a blow out (oh shit from seduction), rating a 9/10.

[Whitefox]

You have to compare it to his old work. Why wouldn't you. If I'm back is a 10 and Rap God is worse, then it's not a ten. You can't say, well today's rap sucks and ems old so that makes it a ten.

Why do we have to compare it to his old work? Whats the point of this poll, if all of his new songs automatically cant be 10? Right now, it's 10. We didnt hear the whole album yet, we have nothing to compare. Why should I think like :"ohh. its probably not the best thing on the album, so i'll give it a 5"? lol

[Trilla]

You have to compare it to his old work. Why wouldn't you. If I'm back is a 10 and Rap God is worse, then it's not a ten. You can't say, well today's rap sucks and ems old so that makes it a ten.

Why do we have to compare it to his old work? Whats the point of this poll, if all of his new songs automatically cant be 10? Right now, it's 10. We didnt hear the whole album yet, we have nothing to compare. Why should I think like :"ohh. its probably not the best thing on the album, so i'll give it a 5"? lol

I don't think you understand what he's trying to say.

What do you rate "The Real Slim Shady"? Okay, now what do you rate "Berzerk"?

You cannot give them the same rating unless you believe they are equally as good...

if you give "I'm Back" a 10/10 then "Rap God" a 10/10 that means you believe Im Back and Rap God are on the same tier of awesomeness and are both masterpieces

[Whitefox]

You have to compare it to his old work. Why wouldn't you. If I'm back is a 10 and Rap God is worse, then it's not a ten. You can't say, well today's rap sucks and ems old so that makes it a ten.

Why do we have to compare it to his old work? Whats the point of this poll, if all of his new songs automatically cant be 10? Right now, it's 10. We didnt hear the whole album yet, we have nothing to compare. Why should I think like :"ohh. its probably not the best thing on the album, so i'll give it a 5"? lol

I don't think you understand what he's trying to say.

What do you rate "The Real Slim Shady"? Okay, now what do you rate "Berzerk"?

You cannot give them the same rating unless you believe they are equally as good...

if you give "I'm Back" a 10/10 then "Rap God" a 10/10 that means you believe Im Back and Rap God are on the same tier of awesomeness and are both masterpieces

I can give them the same rating if we will rate them separately. Why not?

[Jimmy Conway]

I wasn't measuring it off his olds songs. I was just measuring off the standards of what a ten is. But someone brought up old songs, so I said what I said in relation to that.

People just throw words and numbers around. Louis CK has a great bit on this. He talks about overhearing someone telling another person they seen someone and said it was hilarious. Louis went on to explain what that word meant and how people use words incorrectly. Like how someone called chicken wings amazing. He said now what if something really amazing happens, you can't call it amazing cause you used that on chicken wings.

Same applies here. The same way winning the lottery and chicken wings both can't be amazing. To different levels of quality songs both can't be 10's

But my main point was that people are quick to throw around ratings too easily. The put no thought into it.

[Jimmy Conway]

Yeah that makes sense.

I'm back is a 10. So to see 10's for this just seems offensive to I'm back to me.

A ten song is a song with a beat,flow,voice and lyrics are close to perfect as possible. There are a lot of flaws on rap God in the sense of being perfect. I mean, I could probably type out a hundred rap songs off the top of my head that has better beats. A 10 is elite and unique in its greatness.


But I don't really have a problem with your point, because I see what you're saying and I understand it

[rockbottom]

Voted 8, would have gone 8.5 if I could.

Unbelievable flow and lyric wise. Exceptional in terms of his voice.

Only reason it wasn't a 9 or 10 was because of the beat. And I also enjoy Eminem most when he's using a completely smooth flow. Obviously that wouldn't have suited this track but it's what I'm hoping for on the rest of the album. To use two modern examples off the top of my head - Ridaz and Bagpipes from Baghdad.

[Insidious91]

Says Rap God is "overall shit song"...says my opinion is "shitty".

If you say so I guess.


Edit: I loved the beat as well

Well it is, doesn't mean the song doesn't have it's good parts, like the third verse. Like I said the flow was all over the place. But overall, it has nothing appealing as a song to offer. Hence why I labeled it a shit song.

[EminemBase]

I'd say a 7.

[CrashBand]

Arbitrary ratings anyway lol.

P1: "It's a 9!"
P2: "What about these lines here though"
P1: "True, good point, it's at least an 8.7 then!"
P3: "That line was a reference though"
P1: "9.2! 9.2!"
P4: "Role Model's a 9.2!"
P1: "Okay, okay, 9 then"

[EminemBase]

Arbitrary ratings anyway lol.

P1: "It's a 9!"
P2: "What about these lines here though"
P1: "True, good point, it's at least an 8.7 then!"
P3: "That line was a reference though"
P1: "9.2! 9.2!"
P4: "Role Model's a 9.2!"
P1: "Okay, okay, 9 then"

No more or less arbitrary than every day conversation or discussing art to begin with.

It's just a way to gauge and define your opinion based on how you feel. Ratings fluctuate because moods, atmosphere, self-doubt, social pressure etc. etc. fluctuate.

No more arbitrary than saying "I think this song is good"... good is a verbal rating.

The example you've given here is exactly like going "I think I love this." -- "x y z though?" -- "good point, I didn't think of it like that, not as much now" - it's sharing perspectives and continuously re-defining our tastes or feelings on things. It's the entire point of this forum, and most.

Those numbers are just the most concise metaphors possible for how you feel.

[CrashBand]

No way saying something is good (when it is good) is as arbitrary as assigning a completely random metric and measurement to rate something.

[CrashBand]

I think EminemBase is a 67% member

[EminemBase]

No way saying something is good (when it is good) is as arbitrary as assigning a completely random metric and measurement to rate something.

'completely random'

(also... good when it is good, huh? Lmao. How does how you rate it, ie. with words OR with numbers have any bearing on whether something 'is' or 'isn't'. How you imply how you feel about something has nothing to do with whether something 'is' or 'isn't' that, what does that mean.)

What is good ? It's a metaphor to describe a rating defined by your emotional and intellectual reaction to something and... there's a hierarchy of words/phrases that we use to verbally/conceptually 'rate things' in order of excellence... usually something like...

> 1. Abysmal.
2. Shit.
3. Pretty bad.
4. Tolerable.
5. Not Bad.
6. Pretty good.
7. Good.
8. Really good.
9. Amazing.
< 10. Genius

What is a 1-10 rating? It's that list I just wrote out. How is it random; it's a limited scope of rating from 1-10 with 1 being the worst/lowest and 10 being the best/highest... you could take any set of words or phrases which progressively imply improvement like that and it's an identical fundamental concept in the brain. The numbers are simply references to how we feel. As are words.

Once you know the rules aka it's either shit or good, great or not great or somewhere in-between (all metaphors for your emotional opinion) OR 1-10 then it is not random. It's an attempt to describe or imply your emotion based on a common ground reference which implies in hierarchy.

Saying something is 'not bad' is no different than saying something 'is a 5'.

We all have an intuitive and fairly universal common agreement on the general progressiveness of 1-10 ratings, or most terms and words we descriptively rate with, so there is no difference.