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Re: Last nites Grammy's

Postby Sukot » Feb 15th, '11, 00:21

To be fair, I would say Arcade Fire are quite well-known. It might vary from country to country, but they're relatively big in the UK. Not as big as Em, Katy and Gaga, but probably bigger than Bieber. Can't speak for their popularity in the US though.

Their album got to #1 in both the UK and the US though (ironically in both charts, it replaced Eminem at the top spot, then Eminem climbed replaced them at #1 again the week after).
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Re: Last nites Grammy's

Postby NicoleEM » Feb 15th, '11, 00:48

Slimm wrote:Nicole I'm not gonna respond because I've been posting here for a while now and I'm getting tired of saying the same old stuff over and over again.

Just wanted to show you this though:
http://forum.trshady.com/viewtopic.php? ... e#p1283881

Weird it didnt find it in search.No one answered tho,so kind of proves my point abt how known they are.
Your right tho we are running in circles,u got your opinion i got mine.And again,i didnt thought for a sec Em would win AOTY,tho i do believe that between Arcada and Eminem,Em should have got it.
Oh well,it's over anyway,doesn't matter.
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Re: Last nites Grammy's

Postby mdemaz » Feb 15th, '11, 00:51

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Re: Last nites Grammy's

Postby Unscarred » Feb 15th, '11, 01:10

The Grammy's are joke, i'm just tired of seeing only country artist and some pop rock artists taking all of the awards every year. But i knew they wont give Em the recognition he deserved, whateva but the thing that frustraited me the most is that Jay-Z again took more awards then Eminem :facepalm
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Re: Last nites Grammy's

Postby Emadyville » Feb 15th, '11, 02:54

Killa wrote:You got to ask yourselves this though, Does a shitty song like Not Afraid even deserve to be nominated? Nope. So really it goes both ways with all the complaining here...


One of 16 songs ever to debut at #1, just sayin :coffee:
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Re: Last nites Grammy's

Postby mdemaz » Feb 15th, '11, 02:57

Sigh.....
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Re: Last nites Grammy's

Postby mangomunky » Feb 15th, '11, 02:58

i basically got to know their name because of recovery. i remember there was one week when it was recovery vs the suburbs for billboard #1, and i was following closely on how recovery was doing chart wise so yeah. call me a stan idc cuz i am :coffee:
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Re: Last nites Grammy's

Postby Master Chief » Feb 15th, '11, 03:21

Killa wrote:
Emadyville wrote:
Killa wrote:You got to ask yourselves this though, Does a shitty song like Not Afraid even deserve to be nominated? Nope. So really it goes both ways with all the complaining here...


One of 16 songs ever to debut at #1, just sayin :coffee:



The fact your acting like sales = quality pretty much says it all....

Not Afraid > all nominations for Best Rap Song + best sales = Win.
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Re: Last nites Grammy's

Postby classthe_king » Feb 15th, '11, 03:49

Master Chief wrote:Not Afraid > all nominations for Best Rap Song + best sales = Win.


Did he say that it didn't deserve to win? No. He said it didn't deserve to be nominated. Learn to read.


Also you can stop using the they won't give it to a Hip-Hop artist excuse because Outkast and Lauryn Hill won it.
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Re: Last nites Grammy's

Postby Master Chief » Feb 15th, '11, 03:53

classthe_king wrote:
Master Chief wrote:Not Afraid > all nominations for Best Rap Song + best sales = Win.


Did he say that it didn't deserve to win? No. He said it didn't deserve to be nominated. Learn to read.

It's not like they can randomly pick Going Through Changes or Cinderella Man and nominate them. It MUST be a single and considering that Recovery was one of the best and the most successful Hip Hop album of 2010, it would only be the obvious to pick a SOLO song from there (that's been released as a single). Oh! What'dyaknow? LTWYL & No Love were collaborations. I wonder what other song they could pick? :coffee:
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Re: Last nites Grammy's

Postby classthe_king » Feb 15th, '11, 03:57

How about they don't pick a song from Recovery and they pick good songs :unsure:
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Re: Last nites Grammy's

Postby Master Chief » Feb 15th, '11, 04:02

classthe_king wrote:How about they don't pick a song from Recovery and they pick good songs :unsure:

Master Chief wrote:Recovery was one of the best and the most successful Hip Hop album of 2010
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Re: Last nites Grammy's

Postby classthe_king » Feb 15th, '11, 04:04

I think you mistook good for best selling :unsure:
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Re: Last nites Grammy's

Postby Master Chief » Feb 15th, '11, 04:07

classthe_king wrote:I think you mistook good for best selling :unsure:

They really have no other choice. If they didn't choose Not Afraid, it'd be a move that would raise eyebrows and add to the "Grammys robbed Eminem" case.

IMO Not Afraid is a good song anyway :coffee:
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Re: Last nites Grammy's

Postby Manly Moose » Feb 15th, '11, 05:01

Slimm wrote:
NicoleEM wrote:Lol @Slimm being mad.The fact that we aren't into indie-rock doesnt make us ignorant lol.I doubt many people outside that genre have heard of them.The point is that these awards are suppose to be won by the artists who influenced that year most.And dont tell me Gaga/Bieber or even Eminem didn't rule 2010 over Arcadia,cause u know thats bs.Probably grammys just wanted to be different then the rest of the awards shows and concentrated more on genres that aren't that known worldwide,kind of advertising them somehow.... :coffee:


Your whole post shows your lack of knowledge on the subject. Let me break it down for you:

Lol @Slimm being mad.

It just annoys me that almost everyone here starts whining that AF does not deserve the grammy, while you don't even know the band. All I'm doing now is educating you guys. You guys are obviously the ones mad.

The fact that we aren't into indie-rock doesnt make us ignorant lol

Thats right, but the fact that you judge a band without knowing it makes you ignorant. Saying they don't deserve the grammy without actively following music outside of shady records makes you ignorant. Saying they are 'emo fags' with make up makes you ignorant.

The point is that these awards are suppose to be won by the artists who influenced that year most.And dont tell me Gaga/Bieber or even Eminem didn't rule 2010 over Arcadia,cause u know thats bs.


So because you've heard more Eminem/Bieber/Gaga on the radiostations you listen makes the music better? The award is for BEST album, not the most played album. Now, you're saying it's about influence in music. Arcade Fire is one of the most influential bands of the last decade, but you wouldn't know that because you don't listen to it, nor do you follow any music outside hiphop. With the rise of AF came many many more orchestral indie rock bands who tried to follow in their footsteps. They are influential, original and refreshing and stay that way every album. Something Eminem (with all due respect) has failed to do. They had one of the most anticipated albums of the year, they are 3th most played on Last.fm and once again received great critical acclaim.

Probably grammys just wanted to be different then the rest of the awards shows and concentrated more on genres that aren't that known worldwide,kind of advertising them somehow....


Aren't known worldwide? Arcade Fire is known all over the world, get your facts straight. Maybe the grammy's just chose a refreshing band who deserved a grammy, and who made a better album than Recovery. It's sad to see you people making excuses and thus taking away a great moment for a group of talented musicians.


They are the most influential? That would explain why they sound exactly like every other indie rock band. You are probably right that they are the most influential, but the entire genre is dead, even this "influential" group sounds like its a half a step away from the 90s. Being influential in indie rock isnt an accomplishment anymore. Their originality is invisible to anyone that isnt a big fan of indie rock, every other genre has a big difference inbetween decades (Besides RnB).

Not saying they are bad, but dont try and make them sound better than they are. At least you arent like the rest of Arcade supporters who think indie rock is the only "real music". This reminds me of people obsessed with underground rappers, they think that anything away from the mainstream is good. By the way you make no points on how Arcade > everyone else, your just mad that some people dont like indie rock.



Bottom line is, the Grammys do this EVERY YEAR. Its always about country or rock for them, but thats not a surprise considering the years the members grew up in.
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