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The Best Song on the EP is...

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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby Satire » Jun 19th, '11, 19:15

I thought the flow was horrendous, the pause, speed up again flow was unlistenable to me


Well whether it sounded horrendous is subjective (I feel like I'm turning into EmBase :unsure: ). It's impossible to argue this because obviously I'm not going to tell you that you think it sounds good, and even if I give the reasons why I think it sounds decent, if you didn't notice them before it is probably not going to sway you. But, with this type of flow, normally I'd agree. I don't think it was great but I just think it did the job that it was intended for.

The way he says "I'm alive again" slowly, and as the beat builds he starts speeding up and the subject matter goes from "I'm revived..." to "You can never break my stride!", the flow is like an illustration of the lyrics. It's momentum. I like it.

However, the thing I hate about this type of flow is how unsuited it is for end rhymes/multis, which is why it isn't nearly as perfected as his previous work. It's hard to tell that "smell blood" was supposed to rhyme with "help up", or that "rocfella" was even used in a sentence on first listen.

I wasn't judging the Chorus or even Royce's part, only Eminem's part.


I did the same thing in my review since I didn't think royce particularly stood out in this record. Even after all these years, we're still only paying attention to Eminem.

Still though, that chorus sucks. Do you agree? :unsure:

The delivery was great the whole time


This is primarily what I don't get. His voice is just so similar to the rest of the record here, the only difference being that it's slightly deeper. I don't see why you like the delivery here so much when everything else he's done in the last two years is quote on quote "awful".

Cause I break my back to give you my art, you steal my thoughts
It’s like driving a spike through my heart
You might think it’s not that big of a deal to steal from me
But music is all I got
Aside from my daughters, not trying to sound like a martyr
But it’s getting harder than I thought


I noticed these too while I was listening to it just now, it did flow well, but I fucking hate his voice on these parts. The "aww" sound in thought just exposes how hoarse it is, omfg.

They’ll appreciate me when I’m gone, they say it was I’ll, right?
The way I kill mics? But the way I feel right now?
It just feels like I’m so done with this sh-t I might as well wipe
I have nothing else to give you, nothing left to contribute
Farewell I bid you, but before I go, my last gift to you
Ladies and gentleman, Slaughterhouse I give you!


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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby classthe_king » Jun 19th, '11, 20:51

Satire wrote:Well whether it sounded horrendous is subjective (I feel like I'm turning into EmBase :unsure: ). It's impossible to argue this because obviously I'm not going to tell you that you think it sounds good, and even if I give the reasons why I think it sounds decent, if you didn't notice them before it is probably not going to sway you. But, with this type of flow, normally I'd agree. I don't think it was great but I just think it did the job that it was intended for.

The way he says "I'm alive again" slowly, and as the beat builds he starts speeding up and the subject matter goes from "I'm revived..." to "You can never break my stride!", the flow is like an illustration of the lyrics. It's momentum. I like it.


Well I never said it was subjective, and my opinion is that it's horrible.

However, the thing I hate about this type of flow is how unsuited it is for end rhymes/multis, which is why it isn't nearly as perfected as his previous work. It's hard to tell that "smell blood" was supposed to rhyme with "help up", or that "rocfella" was even used in a sentence on first listen.


Completely agree, I've been saying that this whole time

I did the same thing in my review since I didn't think royce particularly stood out in this record. Even after all these years, we're still only paying attention to Eminem.


We pay attention to Em because we used to love him but I think Royce > Eminem on this ep

Still though, that chorus sucks. Do you agree? :unsure:


I don't think it's very good

This is primarily what I don't get. His voice is just so similar to the rest of the record here, the only difference being that it's slightly deeper. I don't see why you like the delivery here so much when everything else he's done in the last two years is quote on quote "awful".


Because his delivery actually has emotion in in.

I noticed these too while I was listening to it just now, it did flow well, but I fucking hate his voice on these parts. The "aww" sound in thought just exposes how hoarse it is, omfg.


I liked his voice
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby Satire » Jun 19th, '11, 20:57

Well I never said it was subjective, and my opinion is that it's horrible.


I never said you said it wasn't subjective, bitch. I'm making sure the looking audience understands why I'm not trying to yell at you and tell you that your opinion is wrong and that your music is bad and that your face doesn't match your voice at all and that you're Image

Its clarification.

Completely agree, I've been saying that this whole time


Agreement accepted.

We pay attention to Em because we used to love him but I think Royce > Eminem on this ep


Probably, what do you think of Royce in general?

I don't think it's very good


Agreement accepted.

Because his delivery actually has emotion in in.


Did you like his delivery on I Need A Doctor? or Airplanes? :unsure:

I liked his voice


Because it sounds like yours? loljk
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby classthe_king » Jun 19th, '11, 21:02

Satire wrote:I never said you said it wasn't subjective, bitch. I'm making sure the looking audience understands why I'm not trying to yell at you and tell you that your opinion is wrong and that your music is bad and that your face doesn't match your voice at all and that you're Image


lmao

Probably, what do you think of Royce in general?


He's a good rapper he's boring overall and has no replay value for me

Did you like his delivery on I Need A Doctor? or Airplanes? :unsure:


I've never heard I Need A Doctor but I did like it on Airplanes

Because it sounds like yours? loljk


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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby MikeNUFC » Jun 20th, '11, 15:42

momentsgolden wrote:
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there's too much at stake, and to find someone this raw on a beat is rare


To call that TERRIBLE is wrong class.

But, in all honesty, i agree with you. Take from me IS the best track on the EP especially because its real (from both the guys). Dont know why people say its a stupid concept. Koolo leaked Eminem's most personal track and tracks these guys truly believed in and totally disturbed their creative flow. And that "melodramatic" excuse given by Mike is flawed if you agree that his first three albums were also melodramatic. (Kim, White America)


I dont usually do this but I'm gunna backtrack on the "melodramatic" point I made immediately after I heard it. Thinking about it, I can understand his frustration and think his anger is most notable at the leaking of Difficualt (I dont KNOW that, but seems likely). Sidenote: Nollie's thread with everyone saying they're now going to buy Em's CDs because of the song was just ridiculously dumb though. That pissed me off.

That being said I still think the song is shit. His flow is REALLY choppy early on, his voice is grating and his rhymes are average. The bit you quoted class is good, but is ruined by that fucking 'wipe' line. Did Em write it and go "fuck I didn't put a shitty punchline in, better add that to the best bit of the verse!"
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby classthe_king » Jun 21st, '11, 22:32

MikeNUFC wrote:
momentsgolden wrote:
classthe_king wrote:[
there's too much at stake, and to find someone this raw on a beat is rare


To call that TERRIBLE is wrong class.

But, in all honesty, i agree with you. Take from me IS the best track on the EP especially because its real (from both the guys). Dont know why people say its a stupid concept. Koolo leaked Eminem's most personal track and tracks these guys truly believed in and totally disturbed their creative flow. And that "melodramatic" excuse given by Mike is flawed if you agree that his first three albums were also melodramatic. (Kim, White America)


I dont usually do this but I'm gunna backtrack on the "melodramatic" point I made immediately after I heard it. Thinking about it, I can understand his frustration and think his anger is most notable at the leaking of Difficualt (I dont KNOW that, but seems likely). Sidenote: Nollie's thread with everyone saying they're now going to buy Em's CDs because of the song was just ridiculously dumb though. That pissed me off.

That being said I still think the song is shit. His flow is REALLY choppy early on, his voice is grating and his rhymes are average. The bit you quoted class is good, but is ruined by that fucking 'wipe' line. Did Em write it and go "fuck I didn't put a shitty punchline in, better add that to the best bit of the verse!"


Yes, half the verse is bad and that line ruined it...but at least half the verse is good, more than any other song on the EP can say :coffee:
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby nathan123 » Jun 21st, '11, 22:33

great to see class having a good subjective argument about em!

so on that i take it u didnt like fast lane or im on everything ?
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby Satire » Jun 21st, '11, 22:35

C.R.E.A.M wrote:Why does every thread Class makes in the Eminem section goes beyond 5 pages ? :shakehead:


Because most of them put down some portion of Em's current work, including this one.
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby WakeUpShow » Jun 22nd, '11, 00:02

i gotta agree with Amadeo, em's verse on Take From Me is bad, like....SCARY bad. It's horrible.
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