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Eminem album career reversal.

Postby Good For Nothing » Jun 25th, '11, 03:09

About a year ago i posted this topic and it failed miserably ( and probably will again ) due to me under explaining what i meant, so here it goes...

So keep in mind whatever your preference is on Em's music/albums and how you rate them for example i'll give my ratings...

Album releases only excluding Hell the sequel.

sslp 8/10
mmlp 9/10
Tes 10/10
Encore 4/10
Relapse 6.5/10
Recovery 6.5/10

So from an outsider that looks like a rapper who started out great, continuously improved through out each album, then hit a major slump, picked it back up somewhat but has had trouble finding his past success (quality wise).

So now lets reverse that, and dont take content into consideration ( which is what i failed to mention last year ) cause then it makes no sense, only consider the quality of them, whatever you think that may be, and reverse it, as in ( pertaining to my ratings )

sslp 6.5/10
mmlp 6.5/10
TES 4/10
encore 10/10
relapse 9/10
recovery 8/10

And now it looks like Em started out average, got terrible picked it up considerably well at encore, then he managed to put out great to decent albums but couldn't live up to encore. So does that leave us with a better Em than we have now ?

So basically just think, or post what YOU think of Em's albums in order then reverse it, and does that leave Em with a better or worse career than he already does in your eyes ?
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Re: Eminem album career reversal.

Postby Blu » Jun 25th, '11, 03:20

Even though you reversed it he still ended up down the same path.
In the original, he couldn't live up to his three diamonds (SSLP, MMLP, TES).

In YOUR case he couldn't live up to Encore, his prized possession.

So basically in the end he couldn't live up to his star albums, no difference.
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Re: Eminem album career reversal.

Postby Good For Nothing » Jun 25th, '11, 03:25

Blu wrote:Even though you reversed it he still ended up down the same path.
In the original, he couldn't live up to his three diamonds (SSLP, MMLP, TES).

In YOUR case he couldn't live up to Encore, his prized possession.

So basically in the end he couldn't live up to his star albums, no difference.


Yeah i see what you mean but i think there is a difference because originally he wasn't as good or respected towards the end of his career, but in the reversal he was putting out near classic albums which would make him one of the best rappers alive to more people that only Eminem fans.
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Re: Eminem album career reversal.

Postby Ku53v » Jun 25th, '11, 04:09

His career wouldnt change to me as I haven't heard his albums chronologically, and unless im missing something, the resulting discography would be the same
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Re: Eminem album career reversal.

Postby whiteamerica » Jun 25th, '11, 05:10

interesting post. i think.

though i don't think the order of his releases has anything to do holistically with the status of his career.

the best thing he can do now, i think (unless he has the power, and will, to put out another classic to end his career<----unlikely) is just quit....

he is only hurting himself, in my eyes, as a respectable artist as he progresses.

preferably, eminem should have made his epic return on an independent label, done something "real" (though i do believe that relapse was primarily an Eminem album) [by this i mean almost entirely motivated by Em himself without much label pressure or consideration for the "mainstream" fans]

recovery (in response to the quick disapproval, by most people, of relapse [which i still didn't like too much because of the content] was a very label motivated album, one that i feel was primarily meant to bring in the most money possible. Eminem's role in recovery, i think (which i keep repeating because some people will take my post very seriously and pretend that i feel as though my opinion is objective), was secondary and apparent in his lyrics ONLY (still not fantastic). Production, collabs, content (in comparison to earlier works SSLP MMLP TES) were all very mainstream-esque. we began to hear a lot of eminem on the radio, and still do with lighters.

to me he is a sellout and has finally given in and decided to breathe to collect the fucking check.


:y: cool post OP
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Re: Eminem album career reversal.

Postby Manly Moose » Jun 25th, '11, 06:21

I'm very sure Recovery was driven by Em, wanting to please the people he felt he alienated with relapse. Relapse sold enough that the label wouldnt give him shit, and I blame production on critics saying Em didnt represent whats going on in rap today and the fact that Dre is unavailable due to him working on Detox.
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Re: Eminem album career reversal.

Postby whiteamerica » Jun 25th, '11, 16:35

Manly Moose wrote:I'm very sure Recovery was driven by Em, wanting to please the people he felt he alienated with relapse. Relapse sold enough that the label wouldnt give him shit, and I blame production on critics saying Em didnt represent whats going on in rap today and the fact that Dre is unavailable due to him working on Detox.


well idk. i feel like the people he alienated were the people who remember Em just for his popular stuff. he didn't really alienate his real fans. most people around here like relapse. but then most people around here like recovery just as much or better.

recovery, to me, had way more of a generic mainstream type feel than an Eminem type feel
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Re: Eminem album career reversal.

Postby BILI » Jun 25th, '11, 16:39

SSLP and MMLP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TES


So your theory is wrong, he would be a hip-hop king now if it was for the reversal.
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Re: Eminem album career reversal.

Postby Innovation » Jun 25th, '11, 17:03

BILI wrote:SSLP and MMLP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TES


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TES is Eminem's best album imo.
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