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Fallacious/Great Reasons To Call Eminem The GOAT

Postby Satire » Jul 18th, '11, 03:59

Fallacious:
Because he's "the only MC to talk about real life and not cars or swagger pants omgs"

Great:
In his prime he was one of the most phonetic and well-rounded rappers alive.

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Re: Fallacious/Great Reasons To Call Eminem The GOAT

Postby Mr Change » Jul 18th, '11, 04:07

Fallacious

"C'mawn gaiz i meanz he is white n he kan rap that means sumn xtra has 2 meen best evar I LUVZ NOT AFRIAD"

Great

He has had some of the most complex rhymes in history and an uncanny ability to work them into a story
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Re: Fallacious/Great Reasons To Call Eminem The GOAT

Postby Elision » Jul 18th, '11, 06:20

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Re: Fallacious/Great Reasons To Call Eminem The GOAT

Postby SliK » Jul 18th, '11, 06:38

Fallicious:
"Encore and Relapse don't count so other than that he has only released classic albums"

Great:
He has three good albums.
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Re: Fallacious/Great Reasons To Call Eminem The GOAT

Postby Satire » Jul 18th, '11, 06:41

SliK wrote:"Encore and Relapse don't count so other than that he has only released classic albums"


Not sure if this fits the criteria of this topic or not but I really fucking hate when somebody says anything along the lines of "Yeah, Encore isn't up to standards for an Eminem album but it's still better than everything else in Hip-Hop so Em is the GOAT".
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Re: Fallacious/Great Reasons To Call Eminem The GOAT

Postby dead prez » Jul 18th, '11, 06:51

Fallacious

"He's the only mc not to rap about bitches, blunts. and baka, because you know I'm some angel who can only listen to rap when it's not about killing or raping bitches, even though many artists aren't set out to be role models or upstanding citizens."

Btw, Eminem isn't guilty for the materialistic vices of rap, but he is guilty for the misognystic/violent aspect of it, and considering materialism is the most innocous aspect of the vices, is his content really laudable? I'm not attacking his content btw, as I believe artists shouldn't be judged for their content so long as they can pull it off with tact, just shooting down the bullshit claim of him being the rapper not to talk about the "usual things" that are othe rappers are hammered for.

Oh and to dismiss someone for their content would be Style over Substance fallacy.

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Re: Fallacious/Great Reasons To Call Eminem The GOAT

Postby mdemaz » Jul 18th, '11, 10:31

Menzo wrote:Fallacious:

Was a white rapper who dominated a predominantly black game.

Great:

Was a white rapper who dominated a predominantly black game.


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omgzzzz luv da way u lie is the best sonnngg in da werld lololol i have it as my ringtone just to piss people off lololol

Great:

Was able to generate an image many people can relate to to strengthen his empire of fans and to become one of the most successful rappers in the history of the music industry.
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Re: Fallacious/Great Reasons To Call Eminem The GOAT

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jul 18th, '11, 11:42

Fallacious:

"The only rapper who didnt move to hollywood and appeared on the red carpets"

Great:

In his prime,he dropped 3 albums nothing tops

that is a fact! b :coffee:
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Re: Fallacious/Great Reasons To Call Eminem The GOAT

Postby VenomBlackViper » Jul 18th, '11, 12:45

Fallacious: People are ruining this thread by repeating things & not understanding the concept

Great: This is a good thread idea in essence & good practice for the almighty Satire to return to his thread making glory

Fallacious: I don't feel like adding anything to this thread so i'm going to make observational jokes instead

Great: I posted in this thread, thus giving it 15 percent more credibility as an MC.
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Re: Fallacious/Great Reasons To Call Eminem The GOAT

Postby EminemInsider » Jul 18th, '11, 13:09

Fallacious:

"He murders everyone he collaboratez wif. He not only murdered Jigga on dat Renegade ish, but he murdered Lil Wayne twice, yo."

"Who has sold da most recordz? Nuff said."

"Eminem endz ur career if u beef wid him."


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Re: Fallacious/Great Reasons To Call Eminem The GOAT

Postby Jdubem » Jul 18th, '11, 16:37

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:Fallacious:

"The only rapper who didnt move to hollywood and appeared on the red carpets"

Great:

In his prime,he dropped 3 albums nothing tops

that is a fact! b :coffee:

I agree. No one can deny that eminem made 3 amazing albums. As a whole no other rapper can match that quality over the course of that many albums/songs. There are certainly other classic albums that fall into the same category as ems big 3, but no one has 3 that can beat sslp, mmlp, and tes. That's a huge reason why for me em=goat.
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Re: Fallacious/Great Reasons To Call Eminem The GOAT

Postby Trimss » Jul 18th, '11, 20:38

Fallacious:
Kanye admitted he's the GOAT

Great:
He's one of the few rappers who blew up with poppy singles but still managed to not damage his integrity.
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Re: Fallacious/Great Reasons To Call Eminem The GOAT

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jul 18th, '11, 21:25

Trimss wrote:Fallacious:
Kanye admitted he's the GOAT

Great:
He's one of the few rappers who blew up with poppy singles but still managed to not damage his integrity.


My Name is AINT A POP TRACK :laughing:


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Re: Fallacious/Great Reasons To Call Eminem The GOAT

Postby Sekou » Jul 18th, '11, 22:03

kareem said wrote:Fallacious

"He's the only mc not to rap about bitches, blunts. and baka, because you know I'm some angel who can only listen to rap when it's not about killing or raping bitches, even though many artists aren't set out to be role models or upstanding citizens."

Btw, Eminem isn't guilty for the materialistic vices of rap, but he is guilty for the misognystic/violent aspect of it, and considering materialism is the most innocous aspect of the vices, is his content really laudable? I'm not attacking his content btw, as I believe artists shouldn't be judged for their content so long as they can pull it off with tact, just shooting down the bullshit claim of him being the rapper not to talk about the "usual things" that are othe rappers are hammered for.

Oh and to dismiss someone for their content would be Style over Substance fallacy.

Genuine

Great storyteller and is able to incoporate humor in his earlier raps all while having intricate rhyme schmes.


Have you ever been a huge Eminem fan at any point in your life? Just asking out of pure interest, but I couldn't be arsed to look up the ask kareem said a question thread.
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Re: Fallacious/Great Reasons To Call Eminem The GOAT

Postby dead prez » Jul 18th, '11, 22:06

Sekou wrote:
Have you ever been a huge Eminem fan at any point in your life? Just asking out of pure interest, but I couldn't be arsed to look up the ask kareem said a question thread.

I don't have a question thread, and yeah he used to be my favorite artist at one point.
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