"Dated cultural references."

[Amaranthine]

Casey Anthony reference > *

[EminemInsider]

Eminem's kitsch. He doesn't even write his lyrics on an ipad. He's a loser, man. He needs to go back to the campy 90's and leave modern music to the cool people.

[SajN]

He thinks he is modern, yet he doesn't say LOL or ROFL or LMAO or ROFLMAO in his songs.

[EminemInsider]

What you have to understand is there's nothing worse than something that is "dated." When something is from the past, this means it is cheesy and corny and laaame.

The greatest ever in everything is all from today, man. And don't forget - if something is a cliche today, this means it must have also been cliche when it was part of something iconic from the past, so that iconic thing was, in fact, corny.

I still cringe whenever I hear "Stan"...a rapper writing a letter in a song is so cliche, man. Canibus did it, Masta Ace did it, Proof did it. Stan is just unoriginal.

[fiercebush]

Well, it doesn't really matter--when you listen back on them sure they're dated. But it doesn't make the music bad, and I don't think it matters. I don't see what the big deal is if the rhymes are good. If that's the only criticism they can make, then I guess he's doing pretty well isn't he?

[ashley94]

i don't like it when he refers to other celebs, like there's nothing left to make a song about.

[EminemBase]

I know, this criticism always annoys the fuck out of me.

It's completely missing the point. As if the point or aim of his jibes or lines of late relies or is dependent upon fucking relevancy, who fucking cares lmao.

Always see critics say things like "his pop-culture references are still inane"... WOW, so what lmao. If he mentions fucking... Sarah Palin, it's not really ABOUT Sarah Palin half the time anyway, it's just a short-cut to familiarity and 'that kind' of figure.

It's such a retarded viewpoint to focus on the freshness of the references with him.

It's just like characters in 'Eminem's world' and, references are references, it's not about freshness. He also mentioned JFK in "Public Enemy #1" OMG THOUGH, JFK GOT ASSASSINATED IN THE 60S! WOW TALK ABOUT DATED MAN, COME ON EM, 40 YEARS TOO LATE, OMG!

People who view lines or references in this way; according to the popularity or social awareness or freshness are artistically retarded. In fact - I actually prefer dated or obscure references. Anybody can open a newspaper and read out what they see, but to flip recent events (not that Em particularly does this lately, but I'm just saying... he has done) into something unique or take old or barely known events and make them something else, or use them for a purpose or point, that's better.

[Amaranthine]

I like to think of Em's celeb/culture references as little snapshots of what was going on at the time. I love them.

[Arrinef]

I like to think of Em's celeb/culture references as little snapshots of what was going on at the time. I love them.

Hell yeah.
I can easily remember the time period, perhaps a big event timed around or near an eminem album song.

Music is my time machine.