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Re: Eminem Doesnt Know What a Metaphor Is

Postby SliK » Jun 9th, '13, 01:17

Most rappers don't have a clue what a metaphor is.
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Re: Eminem Doesnt Know What a Metaphor Is

Postby EminemBase » Jun 9th, '13, 01:38

Actually both of those are examples of metaphorical language.

"A thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else, esp. something abstract"

'done touched on everything' is not literal, it's a metaphorical phrase being used as a double entendre; it's metaphorical because he does not mean it literally, he's exploiting a metaphor for a pun. Same with the other example.

Even to 'muster up energy' (the metaphor he is exploiting for the sake of the pun) is metaphorical. Can you explain what that is LITERALLY? anything which is not literal is metaphorical language; most people misunderstand metaphor and think that it has to be a specific format or phrasing, no, metaphorical language is a very common thing that we use intuitively.

Most people use metaphors more than they ever realize as well. Humans communicate in metaphors on a daily and often basis, without even thinking about it...

Just think of when you're angry "I'm just blowing off steam", "I just need a release" - lots of metaphors relating to release and energy, and in debating contexts, we use a ton of war metaphors.

We could barely communicate without metaphors. Contrary to what common discussion would have you believe - metaphor is not a special tool of the select poet, it's a very everyday linguistic must for all of us, and Eminem was right in referring to both those examples as metaphors. Most just misunderstand the scope of what's included under that 'metaphorical umbrella' (another metaphor!).
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Re: Eminem Doesnt Know What a Metaphor Is

Postby TonyTilt » Jun 9th, '13, 01:41

EminemBase wrote:Actually both of those are examples of metaphorical language.

"A thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else, esp. something abstract"

'done touched on everything' is not literal, it's a metaphorical phrase being used as a double entendre; it's metaphorical because he does not mean it literally, he's exploiting a metaphor for a pun. Same with the other example.

Most people use metaphors more than they ever realize as well. Humans communicate in metaphors on a daily and often basis, without even thinking about it...

Just think of when you're angry "I'm just blowing off steam", "I just need a release" - lots of metaphors relating to release and energy, and in debating contexts, we use a ton of war metaphors.


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Re: Eminem Doesnt Know What a Metaphor Is

Postby Elision » Jun 9th, '13, 02:49

They're both metaphors. You have the lyrics wrong
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comin after who didn't support us...
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Re: Eminem Doesnt Know What a Metaphor Is

Postby Snakebeast » Jun 9th, '13, 02:57

EminemBase wrote:Actually both of those are examples of metaphorical language.

"A thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else, esp. something abstract"

'done touched on everything' is not literal, it's a metaphorical phrase being used as a double entendre; it's metaphorical because he does not mean it literally, he's exploiting a metaphor for a pun. Same with the other example.

Even to 'muster up energy' (the metaphor he is exploiting for the sake of the pun) is metaphorical. Can you explain what that is LITERALLY? anything which is not literal is metaphorical language; most people misunderstand metaphor and think that it has to be a specific format or phrasing, no, metaphorical language is a very common thing that we use intuitively.

Most people use metaphors more than they ever realize as well. Humans communicate in metaphors on a daily and often basis, without even thinking about it...

Just think of when you're angry "I'm just blowing off steam", "I just need a release" - lots of metaphors relating to release and energy, and in debating contexts, we use a ton of war metaphors.

We could barely communicate without metaphors. Contrary to what common discussion would have you believe - metaphor is not a special tool of the select poet, it's a very everyday linguistic must for all of us, and Eminem was right in referring to both those examples as metaphors. Most just misunderstand the scope of what's included under that 'metaphorical umbrella' (another metaphor!).


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Re: Eminem Doesnt Know What a Metaphor Is

Postby Kill You » Jun 9th, '13, 03:15

In rap terms, metaphors and punchlines are generally considered to be the same thing/intertwined.
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Re: Eminem Doesnt Know What a Metaphor Is

Postby EminemInsider » Jun 9th, '13, 04:05

SliK wrote:Most rappers don't have a clue what a metaphor is.


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Re: Eminem Doesnt Know What a Metaphor Is

Postby CanadaPure » Jun 9th, '13, 05:40

Miller wrote:Does that HAVE to be your avy Snake? lol


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Re: Eminem Doesnt Know What a Metaphor Is

Postby python » Jun 9th, '13, 05:42

eminass, tbh
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Re: Eminem Doesnt Know What a Metaphor Is

Postby CanadaPure » Jun 9th, '13, 05:45

python wrote:eminass, tbh


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Re: Eminem Doesnt Know What a Metaphor Is

Postby BumShiv » Jun 9th, '13, 05:52

EminemBase wrote:Actually both of those are examples of metaphorical language.

"A thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else, esp. something abstract"

'done touched on everything' is not literal, it's a metaphorical phrase being used as a double entendre; it's metaphorical because he does not mean it literally, he's exploiting a metaphor for a pun. Same with the other example.

Even to 'muster up energy' (the metaphor he is exploiting for the sake of the pun) is metaphorical. Can you explain what that is LITERALLY? anything which is not literal is metaphorical language; most people misunderstand metaphor and think that it has to be a specific format or phrasing, no, metaphorical language is a very common thing that we use intuitively.

Most people use metaphors more than they ever realize as well. Humans communicate in metaphors on a daily and often basis, without even thinking about it...

Just think of when you're angry "I'm just blowing off steam", "I just need a release" - lots of metaphors relating to release and energy, and in debating contexts, we use a ton of war metaphors.

We could barely communicate without metaphors. Contrary to what common discussion would have you believe - metaphor is not a special tool of the select poet, it's a very everyday linguistic must for all of us, and Eminem was right in referring to both those examples as metaphors. Most just misunderstand the scope of what's included under that 'metaphorical umbrella' (another metaphor!).

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Re: Eminem Doesnt Know What a Metaphor Is

Postby sbolli1 » Jun 9th, '13, 08:31

BumShiv wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Actually both of those are examples of metaphorical language.

"A thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else, esp. something abstract"

'done touched on everything' is not literal, it's a metaphorical phrase being used as a double entendre; it's metaphorical because he does not mean it literally, he's exploiting a metaphor for a pun. Same with the other example.

Even to 'muster up energy' (the metaphor he is exploiting for the sake of the pun) is metaphorical. Can you explain what that is LITERALLY? anything which is not literal is metaphorical language; most people misunderstand metaphor and think that it has to be a specific format or phrasing, no, metaphorical language is a very common thing that we use intuitively.

Most people use metaphors more than they ever realize as well. Humans communicate in metaphors on a daily and often basis, without even thinking about it...

Just think of when you're angry "I'm just blowing off steam", "I just need a release" - lots of metaphors relating to release and energy, and in debating contexts, we use a ton of war metaphors.

We could barely communicate without metaphors. Contrary to what common discussion would have you believe - metaphor is not a special tool of the select poet, it's a very everyday linguistic must for all of us, and Eminem was right in referring to both those examples as metaphors. Most just misunderstand the scope of what's included under that 'metaphorical umbrella' (another metaphor!).

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Re: Eminem Doesnt Know What a Metaphor Is

Postby CrashBand » Jun 9th, '13, 09:52

EminemBase, are you denying that he didn't mistake what a metaphor is in that second example? - and he's just referring to "other rappers never being able to catch up to him" - and his metaphor is corny because he used a pun.

I feel it's pretty obvious he was referring to the pun and got them mixed up, lol.
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Re: Eminem Doesnt Know What a Metaphor Is

Postby EminemBase » Jun 9th, '13, 10:31

CrashBand wrote:EminemBase, are you denying that he didn't mistake what a metaphor is in that second example? - and he's just referring to "other rappers never being able to catch up to him" - and his metaphor is corny because he used a pun.

I feel it's pretty obvious he was referring to the pun and got them mixed up, lol.


The second example is a metaphor.

The quality of the metaphor or puns are not what's in question...

Underneath the pun, a metaphor is at work: "they'll never catch-up (he's not really being chased) all this energy that I've mustered (energy being a metaphor for craft and ambition)"...

That's a metaphor.
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Re: Eminem Doesnt Know What a Metaphor Is

Postby CrashBand » Jun 9th, '13, 10:41

I know it's a metaphor.

But I think it's obvious that he was getting a metaphor and a pun mixed up, lol.
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