Overdose key to Eminem's sobriety?

[CanadaPure]

One of them HAD to die imo.

I think this is actually pretty true. Had Proof not died, Em probably would have. It's sad, but whichever one died would have eventually helped set the other straight.

What a fucked up world.

[python]

wasn't proof's death the REASON for eminem getting back on drugs?

[Arrinef]

wasn't proof's death the REASON for eminem getting back on drugs?

proof passing = hard drug usage = near death exp= clear headed modern eminem

[xNero]

One of them HAD to die imo.

I think this is actually pretty true. Had Proof not died, Em probably would have. It's sad, but whichever one died would have eventually helped set the other straight.

What a fucked up world.

Yeah, honestly, I think this way, too.

[CanadaPure]

It's weird too, like if anyone read that Trick Trick interview posted a while back (I can't think of what site it was on), it sounded like Proof wasn't in a particularly good place prior to his death either. It almost seems like they were both spiraling out of control.

[HeySamantha]

I don't think one of them had to die, no. Proof was his biggest pusher in getting sober/doing lighter drugs, wasn't he? Em was sober at some point in 2005, even if it was for a sort period of time because I remember Proof saying that Em was sober in an article or something. Unless that was a flat out lie...

On the flip side, I'm the type of person who thinks everything happens for a reason. It happened because that was the way it was meant to go down. I truly believe that. However, it's hard to say it when it's the loss of someones best friend. It just doesn't seem fair. But that's life, I guess.

[infinite2hts]

^ True. Life Goes On.
' If it had to happen, it had to happen '- Em

[Alex2012]

I don't think one of them had to die, no. Proof was his biggest pusher in getting sober/doing lighter drugs, wasn't he? Em was sober at some point in 2005, even if it was for a sort period of time because I remember Proof saying that Em was sober in an article or something. Unless that was a flat out lie...

On the flip side, I'm the type of person who thinks everything happens for a reason. It happened because that was the way it was meant to go down. I truly believe that. However, it's hard to say it when it's the loss of someones best friend. It just doesn't seem fair. But that's life, I guess.

too lazy to look for that but i remember reading Eminem was sober when proof died and he came back on alcohol/pills after his death because of a depression.

[AbramIsaac]

It's weird too, like if anyone read that Trick Trick interview posted a while back (I can't think of what site it was on), it sounded like Proof wasn't in a particularly good place prior to his death either. It almost seems like they were both spiraling out of control.

I've said that for a while.

If you listen to Searching for Jerry Garcia, you'll hear it. I think he was planning on killing himself eventually. You can hear his pleas to his friends in D12 to not let things change between them, his apologies to people he felt he had wronged, and how he really felt about himself.

[python]

wasn't proof's death the REASON for eminem getting back on drugs?

Well Eminem seemed to be on a lot of drugs shortly after Encore, i'm not really aware of that entirely but judging from the music from 2004 leading to Proofs death he was always doing a shit ton of drugs, Proof's death just amplified it.

Go ahead and correct me, I haven't read his book or anything.

What I was getting at was Eminem was already doing a lot of drugs, Proof's passing made him do slightly more drugs which ended up being enough to literally kill him.

eminem got off drugs in 2005, and then when proof died, he got back to doing them. at least that's what i've heard. i haven't read his book either.

[python]

i heard in an interview back in the long-ago days of '06 that eminem's solo tracks were meant for his own album. either that meant that his songs on re-up were meant for encore, or they were meant for a future album.

[ShadyxEminem]

I'm not one of those Illuminati conspiracy freaks, but the irony of the Like Toy Soldiers music video is pretty convincing the Eminem knew ahead of time. That's a pretty big coincidence.

[Kill You]

Nah man it's pretty debatable. I'm pretty sure Mariah told him to go sober and she would get back together with him but she got with Nick Cannon instead. That's why Shady is so bitter!

[Despicable]

Yes.

[CanadaPure]

It's weird too, like if anyone read that Trick Trick interview posted a while back (I can't think of what site it was on), it sounded like Proof wasn't in a particularly good place prior to his death either. It almost seems like they were both spiraling out of control.

I've said that for a while.

If you listen to Searching for Jerry Garcia, you'll hear it. I think he was planning on killing himself eventually. You can hear his pleas to his friends in D12 to not let things change between them, his apologies to people he felt he had wronged, and how he really felt about himself.

Trex and I have talked about Searching for Jerry Garcia being like a suicide note in PM before too. It makes a lot of sense.