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Re: At this point

Postby Evil Twin » Aug 4th, '13, 19:26

Agreed. I would at least be happy if Paul were to say if the album is finished or not.
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Re: At this point

Postby SliK » Aug 4th, '13, 19:29

I don't think I'm much of an Eminem fan anymore.

MMLP is still my favourite album though.
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Re: At this point

Postby Raul » Aug 4th, '13, 19:34

As I said on another topic, I understand that Em is wary about his music, but the extreme lack of news is a real buzzkill. Some info from time to time would not destroy nothing, but it'd be only benefic. I don't understand Paul at all.
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Re: At this point

Postby Snakebeast » Aug 4th, '13, 19:46

Guys, you do realize that Em just makes the music. He has no control over his promotion or when his shit's released. He's stated before that he doesn't want anymore drama. He's back simply to make music, nothing more. This is all just Paul (most likely) or Jimmy Iovine.
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Re: At this point

Postby Snakebeast » Aug 4th, '13, 19:51

Menzo wrote:
Snake897 wrote:Guys, you do realize that Em just makes the music. He has no control over his promotion or when his shit's released. He's stated before that he doesn't want anymore drama. He's back simply to make music, nothing more. This is all just Paul (most likely) or Jimmy Iovine.


Uhm...

Em's not just a name that blends in a crowd, there's no doubt he has almost complete say on when his shit is to be released.

I highly doubt that he wants to argue with anybody. When's the last time you heard him get pissed at ALL? When he makes his music, he's pretty much cut off from the outside world. He doesn't use computers and he's in the studio or in his house. He's probably like "I want to release this shit now" and Paul's like "Nah, trust me, not yet". Em's no expert in promotion. He's not a businessman. He's a rapper. He probably trusts the people around him.
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Re: At this point

Postby HeySamantha » Aug 4th, '13, 19:53

I'd rather Paul at least confirm/tease/deny things than say nothing at all. We've been waiting a very long time, at this point. I honestly think it would help a lot if Em at least used twitter. Even just once every 2 weeks, a small tweet. That way we'd feel some sort of connection to him. This total 100% dead silence is ridiculous.
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Re: At this point

Postby HeySamantha » Aug 4th, '13, 19:57

It won't, because a lot of rap is shit and he doesn't make shit music. (minus Encore)
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Re: At this point

Postby Trimss » Aug 4th, '13, 19:58

Snake897 wrote:Guys, you do realize that Em just makes the music. He has no control over his promotion or when his shit's released. He's stated before that he doesn't want anymore drama. He's back simply to make music, nothing more. This is all just Paul (most likely) or Jimmy Iovine.


This is absolutely not true. Eminem is responsible for the secrecy and the mystery around his album, and no one else.
Back when Relapse was in the making, there was some talk about a producer (Premo if I'm not mistaken) who said his song got scrapped because he let the cat out the bag and told some journalists he had a song on there.

Eminem is smarter than we all think. He's not a master in business or promotion, but he knows what he's doing.
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Re: At this point

Postby JAGODA » Aug 4th, '13, 19:58

bigray wrote:I think its EM that doesn't wanna release anything just yet, I'm afraid he is getting into that phase where he may think his music is not good enough or doesn't fit in with rap today.

That's how I feel.

He may not too comfortable with his recent work.
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Re: At this point

Postby Snakebeast » Aug 4th, '13, 20:00

Trimss wrote:
Snake897 wrote:Guys, you do realize that Em just makes the music. He has no control over his promotion or when his shit's released. He's stated before that he doesn't want anymore drama. He's back simply to make music, nothing more. This is all just Paul (most likely) or Jimmy Iovine.


This is absolutely not true. Eminem is responsible for the secrecy and the mystery around his album, and no one else.
Back when Relapse was in the making, there was some talk about a producer (Premo if I'm not mistaken) who said his song got scrapped because he let the cat out the bag and told some journalists he had a song on there.

Eminem is smarter than we all think. He's not a master in business or promotion, but he knows what he's doing.

Em had full control over Relapse. Look how well that turned out. Then came Recovery. I HIGHLY doubt he was like "Songs with Wayne and Drake? Yeah, let's do that shit cuz they're unbelievably dope".

Em has bosses too, you do realize that, right?
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Re: At this point

Postby Trimss » Aug 4th, '13, 20:03

He obviously has bosses but if you think he doesn't like Wayne and Drake then you're just being silly. Do you think if he really hated them he would perform with them at huge award shows, or even take a plane to go to a Drake show and perform with him? Nah man. He does like them.

And yeah, I know he has bosses. However, he's a boss of his own and he releases his stuff whenever he wants to. Maybe not the day he wants to but if he says he wants to release it in September, nobody is going to tell him no. He's Interscope biggest seller. They need him.
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Re: At this point

Postby JAGODA » Aug 4th, '13, 20:07

bigray wrote:EM could be uncomfortable right now with his music but I still do think this album will be better than Relapse/Recovery.


Symphony in H doesn't look like that... damn it, that song makes me worried about his album everytime I hear it, tbh.
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Re: At this point

Postby HeySamantha » Aug 4th, '13, 20:09

I think it's mainly because he has gone through a lot of life changes in the last 3 years. He put out music when he was sober, yes, but now he's more into the sober lifestyle and that's a big change for him. Sobriety is now reality to him, it's not "new" anymore. That would change a lot of writing related things.

He has probably worked on a bunch of stuff, scrapped it, new stuff, scrapped it, new stuff ect. Simply because of his own growth. He wouldn't use stuff that didn't feel current to him, if you know what I mean.
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Re: At this point

Postby JAGODA » Aug 4th, '13, 20:20

It's normal if he's not comfortable with his recent material because he's definitely heard of what fans think about his recent shit and it makes him feel uncomfortable.
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Re: At this point

Postby JAGODA » Aug 4th, '13, 20:49

Em should just stop being interested in fans and people from his camp, he should do what he wanna do... Fuck anybody else!
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