Stan Pt. II

[Shuttle Destroyer]

If Em was to make Stan Pt. II for his 8th studio album in a 3 verse song with this concepts in the video below, would you like it? (Poll question)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_x0KBnd ... ata_player

Also, you would preffer for it to be in the same beat or another one?
Same hook or not? In this case, any ideas for it to match the concept?


I would have no problem with it at all, but it would have to be one of the singles, in order to not let the sequel go kind of obscure in his career
I wouldn't mind the same beat, but if it was another one, it should be dark and no less than great
When it comes to the hook, a new one would be nice if it fits the song better. It would be insane if Elthon John did it, Adele would be nice as hell too. Skylar could also do the job. Of course Dido makes my list too.

What about yall fam?

[Solace]

I'd much prefer Eminem to focus on creating a completely separate and yet masterful storytelling track rather than play on something from his past.

EDIT: Lmfao I just listened to that video you linked, you seriously think that could be a decent song? That sounds insanely stupid.

[Shuttle Destroyer]

I'd much prefer Eminem to focus on creating a completely separate and yet masterful storytelling track rather than play on something from his past.

EDIT: Lmfao I just listened to that video you linked, you seriously think that could be a decent song? That sounds insanely stupid.

Got you.
I definitely think so, if you get some of the concepts Em raps about by themself, it may sound that it couldn't turn into a nice song. But the way he delivers it at the end makes it totally crazy and great.

[Solace]

Well of course execution plays a large role in whether something is effective, but what would the point of a song where Stan survives and attempts to murder Eminem be? There would be no impact or reason in comparison to the original Stan showcasing the extent of obsession over media idols.

Plus, in Stan he's confirmed death considering there was a news report on it and what not...So Stan II, Stan magically resurrects over an entire decade later to seek revenge? This would completely ruin the original story. The only plausible story for a sequel would be a song revolving around Matthew, and by that point I would still

much prefer Eminem to focus on creating a completely separate and yet masterful storytelling track rather than play on something from his past.

And anyway, it's been done by admiring netcees already so...No point.

Sorry for the essay, can't really think of a shorter way to say this lmao.

[Shuttle Destroyer]

Lol, no problem, I totally get you.
Yes, there would be some problems on the general storyline because of the death news. A quick fix would be a line explaining that the news was wrong after all or Mathew could be the one seeking revenge.
The time doesn't really matters cause if the song comes out a decade later it doesn't necessarely means that what he's saying happened a decade later.

[Solace]

How could the report be wrong though lol? Officials confirm deaths before putting out stories. Also,

I seen this one shit on the news a couple weeks ago that made me sick

Realistically...It took them a couple weeks to realize Stan was alive all along? People pull his dead body out of the water, no breathing, no heartbeat, probably dead for hours by the time anyone noticed it, and whoops a couple weeks later they find he was just in a deep deep sleep. They'd have done autopsies and even possibly a funeral by the time Eminem said that line.

Or if Matthew was seeking revenge...That story would be so boring. "Dear Eminem, my psychotic brother murdered his wife and child over you, and now I too am going to follow in his footsteps, and fuck up." and the ending would be him dying too? And the verses would just be bad rehashes of the original? What I'm more or less getting at is that the story is useless and doesn't provide any new insight or evolution to the situation at hand...And so to me there isn't at all a reason for Eminem to ever consider a sequel.

The time doesn't really matters cause if the song comes out a decade later it doesn't necessarely means that what he's saying happened a decade later.

Fair enough, I threw that in moreover to stack any flaws lel.

[PAINKILLƎR]

Eminem already turned down the idea of a part 2. Wayne kind of did it instead.

[Solace]

Eminem already turned down the idea of a part 2.

Ye but thread is hypothetical.

[PAINKILLƎR]

Eminem already turned down the idea of a part 2.

Ye but thread is hypothetical.

Oh sorry m8, didn't bother reading OP. I just read the title and jumped in.

[Shuttle Destroyer]

I'm more or less getting at is that the story is useless and doesn't provide any new insight or evolution to the situation at hand...And so to me there isn't at all a reason for Eminem to ever consider a sequel.

I can almost say you got me to your side It really wouldn't add anything to the original Stan, but maybe the final outcome of the sequel would be another classic. About Em considering making it, that was never a question to me that it won't happen lol I just wanted to see what the forum response would be like. Btw, we got to have a open mind to even consider this, there's more to discuss here then taking every single conflict this storyline would generate so seriously. Either way, the way this is going I can see that the second option of the poll will receive more votes. Which is understandable at least. I might even change my vote since I don't really want the sequel, I just would be cool if he decided to do it.

[Solace]

Yeah I understand, it's more for the purpose of discussion (which is kind of what the entire point of a forum is anyway).

Eminem already turned down the idea of a part 2.

Ye but thread is hypothetical.

Oh sorry m8, didn't bother reading OP. I just read the title and jumped in.

Ain't no laws against that around these parts m8 I do that shit all the time.

[detox2030]

I'd prefer a Kim Pt. II but this time instead of Kim getting killed it'll be Hailie, it'll shock the world.

[SliK]

Eminem can't write like that anymore, so no. Unless you want lines like

"I read about your uncle Ronnie too I'm sorry
I had a fiend kill himself when his dog ran away --
-- OTHERWORDS SOME BITCH WHO DIDN'T WANT HIM"

[EminemBase]

Naaaaaaaaaaaah, leave it alone.

"Stan" killed himself, so it'd have to be a prequel... which could be interesting but it'd also have to be amazing in a whole new light to not add a shitty stamp on the song's legacy. Tough job yo.

[EminemBase]

Eminem can't write like that anymore, so no. Unless you want lines like

"I read about your uncle Ronnie too I'm sorry
I had a fiend kill himself when his dog ran away --
-- OTHERWORDS SOME BITCH WHO DIDN'T WANT HIM"

I slightly disagree doh @ he can't write like that... we don't know whether he can or can't as he isn't trying to; it's not like that punchline style is him attempting to write like he used to...

He switches up the way he writes (let alone sound/tone etc.) basically every album... and Recovery is an obvious... emphasis / attempt to write like the punchline madness of the times...

But if you look at like "My Mom" and "Space Bound"... which are his most conversational/dialogue-y kinda tracks since returning... his writing is still spot-on, I think he could write a compelling character-dialogue/story track still easily. Just would depend if he could get the rest of the elements right aka production and hook.