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It was November 31st today....

Postby Jaba » Mar 16th, '14, 02:28

Does anyone know what this line means? OR why he said it or what?
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Re: It was November 31st today....

Postby StanBase » Mar 16th, '14, 02:31

I remember this being mentioned a while ago. Whoever posted it said he chose a fictional date because he doesn't wanna share too much of his personal life anymore. Like in headlights when he said "me, her and Nate" instead of saying which daughter.
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Re: It was November 31st today....

Postby Elision » Mar 16th, '14, 06:33

Brainless wrote:Does anyone know what this line means? OR why he said it or what?
he follows it with "would've been our anniversary".
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Re: It was November 31st today....

Postby EminemBase » Mar 16th, '14, 06:54

I honestly think as with a lot of things Em says in these contexts that the date is meaningless and also a possibility that Em honestly doesn't know that there are not 31 days in November, the same way he mixed up melanin with melatonin in Difficult. He makes little mistakes like that all the time then fans think there's some profound meaning behind why he did it.

Keep in mind that his response to ''Why MMLP2?'' was ''Why not?'' - so shows you how much he truly considers certain details these days. I think it was a meaningless mistake.
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Re: It was November 31st today....

Postby ganjakush56 » Mar 16th, '14, 07:38

May be worth posting:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1344745/

There is a film called "November 31st". Maybe Eminem saw it..who knows.
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Re: It was November 31st today....

Postby StanBase » Mar 16th, '14, 10:03

EminemBase wrote:I honestly think as with a lot of things Em says in these contexts that the date is meaningless and also a possibility that Em honestly doesn't know that there are not 31 days in November, the same way he mixed up melanin with melatonin in Difficult. He makes little mistakes like that all the time then fans think there's some profound meaning behind why he did it.

That's one interesting and hilarious idea I've never considered.
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Re: It was November 31st today....

Postby TSizzle » Mar 16th, '14, 14:24

StanBase wrote:
EminemBase wrote:... a possibility that Em honestly doesn't know that there are not 31 days in November,...

That's one interesting and hilarious idea I've never considered.


Hopefully you've never considered it because a man his age would have to have the i.q. of a lamp to not know how many days are in each month. Especially a man with three kids whom he no doubt helped to learn the mnemonic that most English speaking children use to learn the days in the months ( "30 days has September...").

Give the guy some credit. Not every miscue in his lyrics has deep hidden meaning, but he's not stupid.
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Re: It was November 31st today....

Postby HeySamantha » Mar 16th, '14, 14:30

fictional date for a fictional anniversary about a fiction relationship, maybe.
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Re: It was November 31st today....

Postby kkaniff » Mar 16th, '14, 14:57

Em
honestly doesn't know
that there are not 31
days in November

And Rick Rubin, Paul, Dre and Jimmy Io didn't know either?
Nah.
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Re: It was November 31st today....

Postby csw621 » Mar 16th, '14, 15:02

it always bothers me when em says for example "you and me" when it should be "you and I" or something else like that but I believe he knows how many days there are in november
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Re: It was November 31st today....

Postby EminemBase » Mar 16th, '14, 16:44

csw621 wrote:it always bothers me when em says for example "you and me" when it should be "you and I" or something else like that but I believe he knows how many days there are in november


Well not really @ the you and me thing, because dialect is the only thing that matters.

People seem to think there's a single standard for English when in fact - there is... black dialect (and others) which is recognized by language experts as a language dialect with its own standards - because the differences are consistent, such as ''you be doing'' etc., these are not flaws of English - but standards of a different dialect.

So I don't think the 'you and me' thing is an error, plus, I hate language standards anyway because that is the job of a poet - to have total freedom with language and use it however he/she sees fit to sound however they want. Language is a constantly evolving open-book, I don't think anybody should pay much mind to ''grammatical rules'' other than if in written and factual form to explain something, in which case it makes sense that we have universal common standards we pretty much stick to so that we can all understand in a similar way.
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Re: It was November 31st today....

Postby EminemBase » Mar 16th, '14, 16:46

kkaniff wrote:
Em
honestly doesn't know
that there are not 31
days in November

And Rick Rubin, Paul, Dre and Jimmy Io didn't know either?
Nah.


Did Dre or Jimmy not know his misuse of melatonin either?

They're Em's lyrics - I doubt they correct him or even comment on his lyricism. He is the king of his words.
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Re: It was November 31st today....

Postby yoda you can call me » Mar 16th, '14, 16:47

EminemBase wrote:
csw621 wrote:it always bothers me when em says for example "you and me" when it should be "you and I" or something else like that but I believe he knows how many days there are in november


Well not really @ the you and me thing, because dialect is the only thing that matters.

People seem to think there's a single standard for English when in fact - there is... black dialect (and others) which is recognized by language experts as a language dialect with its own standards - because the differences are consistent, such as ''you be doing'' etc., these are not flaws of English - but standards of a different dialect.

So I don't think the 'you and me' thing is an error, plus, I hate language standards anyway because that is the job of a poet - to have total freedom with language and use it however he/she sees fit to sound however they want. Language is a constantly evolving open-book, I don't think anybody should pay much mind to ''grammatical rules'' other than if in written and factual form to explain something, in which case it makes sense that we have universal common standards we pretty much stick to so that we can all understand in a similar way.


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Re: It was November 31st today....

Postby EminemBase » Mar 16th, '14, 16:48

Revolutionary wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Keep in mind that his response to ''Why MMLP2?'' was ''Why not?'' - so shows you how much he truly considers certain details these days. I think it was a meaningless mistake.

First time feeling like you don't know what you're talking about.

That was a sarcastic remark, he followed it up with a proper answer :wave:


Not really.

He didn't have much of a reason for MMLP2 being MMLP2 other than for its sake and he kind of tried to vaguely cover some of the themes and create a similar vibe.

But this whole thing of ''it's his perspective on where he's at now'' is horsehit because he does that every single album anyway lmao, when has he NOT done that.

MMLP 1 wasn't just that. It was a concept. MMLP2 didn't really stick to that concept... he just kind of talked on the odd theme or comment on the odd old line or interject a sample here and there.

I just honestly think he didn't know where to go next with a theme so the title was basically for the sake of it. Because when he can't move forward anymore... he looks backwards.
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Re: It was November 31st today....

Postby Jaba » Mar 16th, '14, 19:07

I think its a fictional story (like his other girl recent songs) so he chose a fictional day?
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