Jay-Z Hints at Another Throne Album

[Wallace]

I hated Kanye style with Jay-Z, the only song I liked was "Otis". And Encore off The Black album, and some other ramdom songs.
They rhymed well, but the production was horrible, sounded like some old jazzy with bad quality.

This is just being ignorant.

The production was absolutely fantastic and artistic to the fullest degree. They sampled everything from Dubpstep ("Who Gon Stop Me") to house music ("Why I Love You") and they made all of it work. On top of that, "No Church In The World" is probably the most revolutionary Hip Hop beat produced this year.

Every song is diverse, not only in production but also in range of themes and emotions.

I'm not trying to force you to like this album, but only a complete ignoramus would deny it's innovative execution.

Sometimes I like somethin different, sometimes I don't. It's not somethin that I choose, I think we all know songs and albums that are acclamied and we don't like at all, same happens with hated stuff that we love.
I absolutely enjoy the idea of tryin' somethin diferent. But off this album , just doesn't sounded good. The production. Cuz the lyrics were hard and well-crafted.

[Manly Moose]

I hated Kanye style with Jay-Z, the only song I liked was "Otis". And Encore off The Black album, and some other ramdom songs.
They rhymed well, but the production was horrible, sounded like some old jazzy with bad quality.

This is just being ignorant.

The production was absolutely fantastic and artistic to the fullest degree. They sampled everything from Dubpstep ("Who Gon Stop Me") to house music ("Why I Love You") and they made all of it work. On top of that, "No Church In The World" is probably the most revolutionary Hip Hop beat produced this year.

Every song is diverse, not only in production but also in range of themes and emotions.

I'm not trying to force you to like this album, but only a complete ignoramus would deny it's innovative execution.

I think you are confusing artistic with incredibly simple europop beats. "No Church In The Wild" is revolutionary? Maybe to some on here since its basically the beat to "We All Die One Day", it has the same structure with very slight adjustments. I also hope you realize that Jay mentions his watches in ~3/4 of the songs, saying its lyrically diverse is a bit of a stretch.

[Trimss]

Lol yeah.. No church in the wild is not really revolutionnary. It's a great beat but calling it revolutionnary is a reach.

[SG.]

I disagree, the production's nice, the lyrics are BALLS.

Sabotage The Throne

[Sekou]

I think you are confusing artistic with incredibly simple europop beats. "No Church In The Wild" is revolutionary? Maybe to some on here since its basically the beat to "We All Die One Day", it has the same structure with very slight adjustments. I also hope you realize that Jay mentions his watches in ~3/4 of the songs, saying its lyrically diverse is a bit of a stretch.

No, I am not reaching. It's the additional choral voice layers in the instrumental that give it a unique, almost cinematic feel and make it sound "jungle-ish", fitting the theme of the song perfectly. It's not like I'm jizzing over it's simple drum pattern lmao.

Jay talks about his watches in 3/4 of the songs? Eminem talks about hating sluts in literally 9 out of 10 songs on H:TS, yet I don't see you critizing that. Which is only natural, since collabo albums will naturally be based around braggadocio lyrics.
Nevertheless, the topics on WTT also show the down sides of fame. It's "a portrait of two black men thinking through the idea of success in America" to sum up the gist of the album. There may be a lot of big money talk, but it has a serious and weighty tone that pulls itself through the album.

I didn't really catch that the first time I played it to be honest, but it's one of these albums that unfolds itself with each listen.

[Trimss]

No, I am not reaching. It's the additional choral voice layers in the instrumental that give it a unique, almost cinematic feel and make it sound "jungle-ish", fitting the theme of the song perfectly. It's not like I'm jizzing over it's simple drum pattern lmao.

Jay talks about his watches in 3/4 of the songs? Eminem talks about hating sluts in literally 9 out of 10 songs on H:TS, yet I don't see you critizing that. Which is only natural, since collabo albums will naturally be based around braggadocio lyrics.
Nevertheless, the topics on WTT also show the down sides of fame. It's "a portrait of two black men thinking through the idea of success in America" to sum up the gist of the album. There may be a lot of big money talk, but it has a serious and weighty tone that pulls itself through the album.

I didn't really catch that the first time I played it to be honest, but it's one of these albums that unfolds itself with each listen.

> Brings H:TS to the table while no one mentionned it. And this will be the only thing I say about H:TS:
- It wasn't meant to be an album, they were just some throwaway song/verses that they kept for features and shit and made it an EP. Songs like Living Proof, Echo, I'm On Everything, and more and more were basically just features.
WTT was a highly anticipated album and honestly, the hype was just too big. It's a good album but not the classic Kanye/Jay stans claim it is.

@Bolded part: no, it's not. Just go and check Distant Relatives and you'll see that your idea of a collabo album is completely wrong.
Content wise, WTT is kinda redundant and you can't deny it. I liked the album, really but it doesn't have anything that is "revolutionnary" to Hip Hop.

The beat fits the theme of the track well so what? I guess it's the point of a song. For example, since you like mentionning H:TS, Welcome 2 Hell's beat wasn't going to be something fancy.
It is great track but I think your love for it is just falsing your opinion, and you're overrating it.

[Sekou]

> Brings H:TS to the table while no one mentionned it. And this will be the only thing I say about H:TS:
- It wasn't meant to be an album, they were just some throwaway song/verses that they kept for features and shit and made it an EP. Songs like Living Proof, Echo, I'm On Everything, and more and more were basically just features.
WTT was a highly anticipated album and honestly, the hype was just too big. It's a good album but not the classic Kanye/Jay stans claim it is.

@Bolded part: no, it's not. Just go and check Distant Relatives and you'll see that your idea of a collabo album is completely wrong.
Content wise, WTT is kinda redundant and you can't deny it. I liked the album, really but it doesn't have anything that is "revolutionnary" to Hip Hop.

The beat fits the theme of the track well so what? I guess it's the point of a song. For example, since you like mentionning H:TS, Welcome 2 Hell's beat wasn't going to be something fancy.
It is great track but I think your love for it is just falsing your opinion, and you're overrating it.

I brought H:TS to the table because the people who say that WTT has repetitive content don't seem to be criticizing the undeniably even more repetitive content of H:TS.
Saying that's it's just a bunch of songs thrown together on a random EP is a kinda lame excuse for not wanting/daring to put more effort into it but whatever, I'm not gonna dwell on that now.

Let me rephrase that bolded part then. A collaboration album between Kanye West and Jay-Z will naturally be based on braggadocio lyrics. Neither of them is a reggae artist.
It's two of the biggest rappers in the world trying to justify why they should be considered as the kings of this game so they have to convey that mindstate in the execution of their songs.

Welcome 2 Hell's beat is amazing, it's one of the best beats Eminem has rapped on in forever. But in the end, it is another nocturnal sounding beat that has a eerie feel to it.
No Church In The Wild has sounds that are percieved like something you would actually hear out in the jungle, but at the same time it has a futuristic sound to it, which is basically the complete opposite of "jungle music". This is what really distinguishes it from most Hip Hop beats I have heard in a while.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

I'd rather see another Em & Royce, than Jay & Kanye
Em & Royce vs. Jay & Kanye

This place should be for people that can listen to more than one rapper,or just one rapper or whoever is with him.

Get out please.

[Almostlity]

> still thinks H:TS was throw-away songs/verses/random shit with NO intention to ever put it out.




Who you kidding? You have to a be retard or something if you believe it's like that. I wouldn't believe it even if Eminem himself would use those exact words to describe how the project was planned/built.


'Straight from the Vault' is throw-away shit/ ''fooling around'' material, not H:TS.

Royce & Em probably made some songs and then came up with the idea to make an EP together and AFTER THAT, they started to record shit for the EP, with clear intentions.. and when they ran out of ideas to talk about (after 6 songs,lol) they threw in the first songs they recorded together ( Living Proof etc) and voila, we have H:TS

[Trimss]

> still thinks H:TS was throw-away songs/verses/random shit with NO intention to ever put it out.




Who you kidding? You have to a be retard or something if you believe it's like that. I wouldn't believe it even if Eminem himself would use those exact words to describe how the project was planned/built.


'Straight from the Vault' is throw-away shit/ ''fooling around'' material, not H:TS.

Royce & Em probably made some songs and then came up with the idea to make an EP together and AFTER THAT, they started to record shit for the EP, with clear intentions.. and when they ran out of ideas to talk about (after 6 songs,lol) they threw in the first songs they recorded together ( Living Proof etc) and voila, we have H:TS

No dude.

What kind of promotion would it be to announce an EP one month before its release? First, Echo was meant to be for T.I and that's just a proof it wasn't Eminem's intention to take it and make it a song of his.
They recorded like 3 songs after the idea of getting the EP, Reunion, Lighters and A Kiss and maybe Loud Noises, the materials weren't good enough to put it on a full album and they didn't want to throw them so it's on the EP, i think i read that somewhere.
The other tracks were fuck around during studio sessions.

[slimsoxshady]

would rather see see them focus on their solo albums tbh