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Re: Nicki Minaj biggest joke in hip hop and possibly music e

Postby Mathers » Mar 4th, '12, 17:09

EminemBase wrote:Even with the silly music she's making in her mainstream career > Lil Wayne.

I'm not a fan of either of them but the first two Carter albums > Nicki's career.
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Re: Nicki Minaj biggest joke in hip hop and possibly music e

Postby BillyGoat03z » Mar 4th, '12, 19:44

EminemBase wrote:Nah she's not.

Her lyrics lately may be stupid, and she's pandering and... she's definitely making wacky, trashy songs for sure. But she's a good rapper.

A rapper can be good (technically speaking), with bad content.

From her mixtape stuff and some guest verses, it's obvious that she's a very good rapper. She can switch up flows and styles constantly, and she has a lot of charisma in her voice and delivery.

Even with the silly music she's making in her mainstream career > Lil Wayne.


Your kidding wit me right? Its pretty damn easy to change up flows when your rhyming nonsense garbage.... Even on her mixtapes she was wack... same 1980's style where ya just rhyme words to rhyme words... her stuff has absolutely no substance or content....

Nicki Minaj is definately the female weezy.... Nicki wackest female rapper alive... Lil Wayne wackest male rapper alive....
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Re: Nicki Minaj biggest joke in hip hop and possibly music e

Postby Trimss » Mar 4th, '12, 20:08

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Re: Nicki Minaj biggest joke in hip hop and possibly music e

Postby EminemBase » Mar 4th, '12, 20:18

BillyGoat03z wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Nah she's not.

Her lyrics lately may be stupid, and she's pandering and... she's definitely making wacky, trashy songs for sure. But she's a good rapper.

A rapper can be good (technically speaking), with bad content.

From her mixtape stuff and some guest verses, it's obvious that she's a very good rapper. She can switch up flows and styles constantly, and she has a lot of charisma in her voice and delivery.

Even with the silly music she's making in her mainstream career > Lil Wayne.


Your kidding wit me right? Its pretty damn easy to change up flows when your rhyming nonsense garbage.... Even on her mixtapes she was wack... same 1980's style where ya just rhyme words to rhyme words... her stuff has absolutely no substance or content....

Nicki Minaj is definately the female weezy.... Nicki wackest female rapper alive... Lil Wayne wackest male rapper alive....


Actually no it's not easy to switch-up flows or have perfectly on-point rhythm and be great in a technical sense, evidenced by the plethora of shit rappers.

At no point did I praise her content.

But being a good rapper, in a technical sense... can still be the case, regardless of content. And technically speaking, she is good. She is on-point rhythmically, she can flow well, she can switch-up well, she has charisma and most of all, she's a personality on the mic.

Which to me is an important aspect.

I'm fans of personalities. And I'm not even a Nicki fan, but she has the potential to be good, because of this. This is part the reason Em and Kanye in particular are so good, they bring out their true personalities on the mic, they're energetic, they have passion... a lot of rappers are so boring.

Her having bad content or ideas makes her a bad artist. Just like a rock band can have a great guitarist or even great technical ability as a whole and still make shit songs, or have shit content.

I'm not saying she's a great artist, but she has potential, absolutely.

And she is not the female version of Weezy, no way. Lil Wayne can't rap. Nicki can rap. Lil Wayne talks, has huge gaps in his flows, he just... can't rap. So many rappers now just can't fucking rap, they don't have tight flows, energy, they don't sound like rappers, they don't flowwwww.

Nicki can rap.
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Re: Nicki Minaj biggest joke in hip hop and possibly music e

Postby Slim Fiasco » Mar 4th, '12, 20:23

EminemBase wrote:
From her mixtape stuff and some guest verses, it's obvious that she's a very good rapper. She can switch up flows and styles constantly, and she has a lot of charisma in her voice and delivery.



Absolutely agree, the girl has great delivery. And I think she's a nice person (judging off few interviews I've seen) so I can't really hate on her. The music she makes is shitty though.
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Re: Nicki Minaj biggest joke in hip hop and possibly music e

Postby Fleka » Mar 4th, '12, 20:25

I don`t like her. If she was a dude, she would be laughed at. She can get away with her shitty raps just because people wank of to her videos.
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Re: Nicki Minaj biggest joke in hip hop and possibly music e

Postby EminemBase » Mar 4th, '12, 20:26

Slim Fiasco wrote:
EminemBase wrote:
From her mixtape stuff and some guest verses, it's obvious that she's a very good rapper. She can switch up flows and styles constantly, and she has a lot of charisma in her voice and delivery.



Absolutely agree, the girl has great delivery. And I think she's a nice person (judging off few interviews I've seen) so I can't really hate on her. The music she makes is shitty though.


Yep.

This is the separation I don't see many make.

There's plenty of examples of great rappers with shit content.

And there's also examples of average or just good rappers with great content (Kanye). Kanye is actually really good but, he's not like... he improves, and his flows aren't always as tight as they can be but, he comes out with a lot of great lines, and comes up with great content.
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Re: Nicki Minaj biggest joke in hip hop and possibly music e

Postby Kill You » Mar 4th, '12, 20:34

Nicki does have the potential and the voice to be good...I feel she could be a great rapper if she tried to make her content better.
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Re: Nicki Minaj biggest joke in hip hop and possibly music e

Postby Emadyville » Mar 4th, '12, 21:29

Fleka wrote:I don`t like her. If she was a dude, she would be laughed at.


if so she'd be wayne... :laughing:
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Re: Nicki Minaj biggest joke in hip hop and possibly music e

Postby Manly Moose » Mar 6th, '12, 02:14

Eh, most of verses dont even make sense, this + the fucking with the voice means I wont listen.
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Re: Nicki Minaj biggest joke in hip hop and possibly music e

Postby Epidemik » Mar 6th, '12, 03:54

Trimss wrote:Hang it up, flatscreen
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Re: Nicki Minaj biggest joke in hip hop and possibly music e

Postby slimsoxshady » Mar 6th, '12, 05:04

She's sexy and I love Pink Friday
So much swag too
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Re: Nicki Minaj biggest joke in hip hop and possibly music e

Postby Kill You » Mar 6th, '12, 11:36

Menzo wrote:She's being stupid, I liked her older stuff more. Up until "Stupid Hoe" I was tolerant.


I think Stupid Hoe is more tolerable than Roman In Moscow at least lol. But I get what you're saying.
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Re: Nicki Minaj biggest joke in hip hop and possibly music e

Postby BillyGoat03z » Mar 6th, '12, 23:15

The funny thing is most of the actual true unrehearsed (off the head) freestyle raps sounds better and make more sense then a written thought out Nicki Minaj verse.

I can tell you all right now that Nicki Minaj new Album will be beyond WACK.... Look at her first 2 lead singles "Stupid Hoe" and "Roman holiday"... I just cant imagine how much worse it can possibly get....

PS.. She needs to get them fake big ass teeth taken out.. they are so fuckin annoying...
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