Dr. Dre = a glorified DJ Khaled

[JUMPDMC]

Is there anyone in hiphop who has said DJ khaled is the best?
Besides khaled himself...

[ashley94]

dr Dre is the best hip-hop producer EVER.

[gvdz]

dr Dre is the best hip-hop producer EVER.

this.

[DanWS]

Most of his famous beats are obvious samples someone else found and Dre just put drums over.

Thats the most ignorant statement I've heard anybody ever say.

Dre works similar to Kanye West although in completely different styles, What Dre as a producer does is envision a workspace and arranges stuff as he goes, he doesnt have his "perfectionist" title for nothing, He handles each piece of the entire 30+ tracks multitrack, and edit each sound differently, while also composing and understanding the music theory related to each sample, weather he is tweaking and chopping the original or re-creating parts of it. Its absurdly difficult to have the clarity and quality that Dr.Dre puts into his beats. Not to mention that those drums "he just puts over" have been entirely created by him, weather from scratch from a synthesizer or from an existing sample, a drum just doesnt go over the beat on time and thats all... thats how you amateur FL studio producers do, and thats why only few can compare themselves to him. Not to mention that he has single handedly created styles that have defined eras of hip hop.

The only part I agree with is the last sentence. All the previous stuff sounds like babble, in all fairness. Like how do you know he has over 30 tracks playing in one beat? lol

[momentsgolden]

The only part I agree with is the last sentence. All the previous stuff was babble, in all fairness. Like how do you know he has over 30 tracks playing in one beat? lol

Because thats generally the case with all good producers? Read the "technical" Recovery interview (its somewhere here) and you'll see how it happens. Eminem learnt his craft from Dre so it should be a good indicator.

[DanWS]

The only part I agree with is the last sentence. All the previous stuff was babble, in all fairness. Like how do you know he has over 30 tracks playing in one beat? lol

Because thats generally the case with all good producers?

Can you show me anything which supports this?

[FreeSpeech]

The only part I agree with is the last sentence. All the previous stuff was babble, in all fairness. Like how do you know he has over 30 tracks playing in one beat? lol

Because thats generally the case with all good producers?

Can you show me anything which supports this?

That's not really abnormal, and hardly the mark of a good (or bad) producer.

I mean, Hopsin just uploaded this pic with like 15 tracks and he's not exactly an amazing producer.

[DanWS]

^

Yeah exactly, the number of tracks on a beat isn't an indicator of how good a producer is, lol. Some of the best beats of all time have been made with 10 or less tracks. I know for a fact "In Da Club" is one of these, so I was asking the dude where he got his source from to claim Dre uses over 30 tracks on his beats.

[momentsgolden]

yes, some beats are made with much less tracks (I can imagine "Drop it Like its hot" one of the best beats of all time coming to mind) but to say 30 tracks is hardly a reach as an estimate IMO.

here's the Recovery interview- http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct10/a ... t-1010.htm

[I'mShady]

Dude just stop it...you're trolling right???
And this topic

[DanWS]

yes, some beats are made with much less tracks (I can imagine "Drop it Like its hot" one of the best beats of all time coming to mind) but to say 30 tracks is hardly a reach as an estimate IMO.

here's the Recovery interview- http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct10/a ... t-1010.htm

That's a pretty cool article. They used 25 stereo tracks in all for Not Afraid, which in all fairness has quite a lot going on in it, so I'm not surprised. I think it's wrong to set any number of tracks as a benchmark for what a good producer is though. Like I said many of the best beats ever have been made with 10 or less, especially those using samples.