next 'big' album: kendricks good kid mad city. expectations?

[AbramIsaac]

Why is EVERYONE about Hopsin? He makes one song down-talking teenagers that smoke weed and get laid and all off a sudden he's some miracle preacher sent from the Heavens? Get the fuck outta here.

As far as this forum is concerned, I think Ill Mind 5 had the opposite effect. The enthusiasm behind him here isn't any higher than before, and for some people, it may even have cooled a little. Hop has his stans though, and there are a few here.

Personally, I think Hopsin has the type of content now to fit in on a Kendrick track, but I'm not sure he has the intelligence. He's not stupid, and his wit is self-evident, but Kendrick makes a lot of historical and cultural references. Hopsin just isn't that type of rapper, and that's perfectly fine, but that should be enough to keep him off a Kendrick album in my eyes.

In all honesty though, on the topic of over-zealousness in regards to praising an up and coming artist, I can't help but feel like some people have gotten caught up in the hype over Kendrick Lamar. Don't get me wrong, he's a breath of fresh air in many ways, and he definitely brings a certain level of artistry to hip hop that hasn't been seen in a newcomer for a long time...but I can't help but feel disenchanted when I hear him talk about pussy and weed. I've only gone through Section .80 a time or two, but I wasn't as impressed with it as I thought I would be.

I plan on giving him a few more listens, but I'm starting to think that his stuff just isn't for me. I like him more than Q, with whom I've been quite disappointed with up to now. Maybe "Hands on the Wheel" just soured my view of him, but it seem like everyone has rose-tinted glasses on when looking at Black Hippy. While they do the type of music they do better than almost anyone out, it seems like they only sprinkle intellect and truth among moments of the same low brow bullshit that west coast rap music has been bringing us since the beginning.

So I'm sure Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City will be a great rap album, with moments of startling clarity and gritty reality. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that despite these encouraging aspects, this album will do little to advance the art form far beyond its roots.

[momentsgolden]

So I'm sure Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City will be a great rap album, with moments of startling clarity and gritty reality. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that despite these encouraging aspects, this album will do little to advance the art form far beyond its roots.

Actually, and this is completely opposed ideologically to what you stated, if Good Kid, m.A.A.d city does not advance the culture, nothing ever will. Its just plain truth. I mean, lets look at the last couple of years and people who were supposed to advance the culture (in the mainstream at least)
Lupe- got caught up in lasers. Lost the aura. Lost a large fanbase.
J Cole- the fad faded. Overhyped.
Jay Electronica- decided to hibernate. Currently hated for Ghostwriting for Nas (that will be a difficult one to shake off especially considering how private a life he leads).
B.o.b- Strange Clouds, enough said.
Slaughterhouse- well, that was sad.

There is a whole new wave of new Emcees, Yelawolf, Big Krit, Action Bronson, Hopsin, Schoolboy Q, Wale etc etc.

Of this new wave of Emcees, the record labels do not know how to market them and what direction to take. Yes, "making a song for the club" is the current format but that has been receiving such a bad rep that they need a new direction to go. That is where Kendrick Lamar comes in. He will define the new balance of talent and commercial success. Every rapper/ Dj/ Journalist/ fan wants kendrick to succeed and more importantly to make good music. If (and i pray to God he does) he succeeds in doing so and doing it right, then HE will define the trend for the next couple of years. He already has 3 people (the rest of black hippy) rewriting entire ALBUMS, not songs or verses, ALBUMS because he is the standard they adhere to.

So, on a surface level Kendrick will provide balance on the radio and have people have something to listen to. That in itself would be important. (In the same way Nas currently does to a less extent). Secondly, he will inspire those around him to do the same (Lupe, Black Hippy, J Cole, Big Krit, Lecrae) to use that format for success. And... this is pushing it now but w/e... he could then influence the veterans themselves to a new standard of good. Eminem did it (Dre), Kanye did it (Jay), Drake did it (Lil Wayne). If he is commercially successful and critically acclaimed, even Detox will be a product of Kendrick just as much as Chronic was of Eminem.

Look at all the albums this year- only Cruel Summer, Lupe's album, Nas's album and maybe T.I's album are Grammy album shoe-ins. Kendrick has a window of opportunity and i am HOPING he takes it.

[knockmathers]

^ you saying kendrick is our last hope? lol..

[Fiftys_Advocate]

I hope I will hear a solo KENDRICK LAMAR album, Kendrick and nobody else. Fuck features.

Every time I just hear "xxx song with xxx about xxx would be great", I stop reading. Don´t like that approach.

[momentsgolden]

^ you saying kendrick is our last hope? lol..

Crowned the new King of the West Coast by Game, Snoop and Dre
When slaughterhouse is asked- who you fuck with? Kendrick
When Drake puts him on the album and his tour
when Sway (greatest hip-hop personality of all time) is asked who his favourite rapper is - Kendrick
Online Presence- Kendrick, from Sohh, to Hiphopdx, to XXl to Allhiphop

yes, i'm flat out stating that Kendrick Lamar is the last hope.

Please note, hip-hop will never die. But look at R&B, look at Rock. Those two had a period of success as good as hip-hop but somewhere along the line only the dumbed down generic forms of it ever get on T.V. Kendrick Lamar has the keys to stop that happening, at least in the near future.

The underground will always thrive though. Killer Mike, Strange Music, Black Hippy, Slumerican Shitizen, Talib, Mos Def, No Malice, Styles of Beyond.... those guys are going to continue creating great music regardless.

[Man1x]

#teammomentsgolden

[momentsgolden]

#teammomentsgolden

kinda went into a Kendrick stan moment ddnt i?

[Man1x]

#teammomentsgolden

kinda went into a Kendrick stan moment ddnt i?

Yeah, but what you've said is, to an extent, true. A LOT of people in the rap game are dependenting on the success of this album. Mainly TDE, Aftermath, and Interscope. I don't believe Interscope will be picking up any more rap acts and will slash a lot of unneeded carry weight in the identity of rap acts if he doesn't succeed (i.e. Slaughterhouse, Yelawolf, Soulja Boy, Chief Keef, part of Bad Boy Ent., Slim da Mobster, etc. Basically any rap act that isn't making them shit loads of money, so that leaves Eminem, Dr. Dre, 50 Cent (does he?), and P Diddy.) That may be a large claim, but if they don't cut these acts they'll tell them to fuck themselves and not give them a budget for their album, and they wont give them any promo. Remember Cashis, Bobby, Stat Quo?

[Atone]

Why you gottasay everyone should feature Hopsin??? I don't want him on a track with Kendrick or Lupe cause theyre leagues above him, its like saying Nas or Jay-Z should make a track with Atone.

That's so sweet of you to put me in the same league as Hopsin, i'm sure he's proud of that