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Re: Slug is GOAT

Postby classthe_king » Nov 27th, '12, 18:21

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classthe_king wrote:You think that Lasers holds Lupe back that much but you don't think Jay's weak albums hold him back?


I hate half of Lupe's discography and I also think his last 2 albums are worse than Jay's mediocre ones. Jay also has 4 classics imo. Lupe is still probably in my top 10 though because of how good F&L & The Cool are.

TBA and AG are two of my favourite albums of all time so I think he deserves a spot.


I wasn't trying to make a case either way, I was just curious to your reasoning.

I don't think F&L 2 is that bad.
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Re: Slug is GOAT

Postby Accor » Nov 27th, '12, 18:28

classthe_king wrote:I wasn't trying to make a case either way, I was just curious to your reasoning.

I don't think F&L 2 is that bad.


Yeah I really didn't like it. I think I'd give it the same or maybe a slightly lower rating than Lasers. There are some good songs on it though like Strange Fruition and FFF, but there's like a 6 track run of unlistenable songs and I remember his political commentary being pretty bad on it as well. I really want to like his music though and I hope his next album is better.


@Rev Joe is goat but he needs to get dumbed by his gf tbh even though that's a horrible thing to say.

@Crash I also think Kendrick could be one of the greats if he continues to release albums as good as gkmc.

Andre is incredible too man
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Re: Slug is GOAT

Postby classthe_king » Nov 27th, '12, 18:31

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classthe_king wrote:I wasn't trying to make a case either way, I was just curious to your reasoning.

I don't think F&L 2 is that bad.


Yeah I really didn't like it. I think I'd give it the same or maybe a slightly lower rating than Lasers. There are some good songs on it though like Strange Fruition and FFF, but there's like a 6 track run of unlistenable songs and I remember his political commentary being pretty bad on it as well. I really want to like his music though and I hope his next album is better.


Yeah I know what you're talking about, Heart Donor-Unforgiveable Youth (Not counting FFF) are all extremely average-bad songs. The first half of the album was great though imo.
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Re: Slug is GOAT

Postby Accor » Nov 27th, '12, 18:43

classthe_king wrote:Yeah I know what you're talking about, Heart Donor-Unforgiveable Youth (Not counting FFF) are all extremely average-bad songs. The first half of the album was great though imo.


Yeah that's a pretty bad stretch of songs lol. There are a couple I like though. As I said SF and FFF are good.. Around My Way is pretty good, Bitch Bad is one of my least favourites lol, Lambo Angels is good until the really awkward third verse. I haven't really listened to the album in a while though, didn't have any replay value at all for me.

What's your favourite Lupe song? I can only narrow it down to Hurt Me Soul, Streets on Fire, The Cool, and Failure.

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Lol yeah ik. I think he makes his best music when he wants to kill himself though
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Re: Slug is GOAT

Postby CrashBand » Nov 27th, '12, 18:45

Lupe can suck my dick man.

His first two albums were pretty good.

I just think he's kind of pretentious.
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Re: Slug is GOAT

Postby classthe_king » Nov 27th, '12, 18:49

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classthe_king wrote:Yeah I know what you're talking about, Heart Donor-Unforgiveable Youth (Not counting FFF) are all extremely average-bad songs. The first half of the album was great though imo.


Yeah that's a pretty bad stretch of songs lol. There are a couple I like though. As I said SF and FFF are good.. Around My Way is pretty good, Bitch Bad is one of my least favourites lol, Lambo Angels is good until the really awkward third verse. I haven't really listened to the album in a while though, didn't have any replay value at all for me.

What's your favourite Lupe song? I can only narrow it down to Hurt Me Soul, Streets on Fire, The Cool, and Failure.


Lambo Angels is my favorite song on the album and I think really the only awkward part was the "put the penis next to mine" line. Around My Way is great because of the sample and I love Roses, Put Em Up and Audubon Ballroom. It's also ironic how much I love singing the chorus to the latter.

My favorite Lupe song? That's really hard. Obviously Hurt Me Soul is up there but I also love Streets on Fire, Sunshine, Dumb It Down, Put You On Game and a lot more. He's probably the second hardest rapper to pick a favorite song besides Talib.
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Re: Slug is GOAT

Postby Accor » Nov 27th, '12, 19:13

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Lambo Angels is my favorite song on the album and I think really the only awkward part was the "put the penis next to mine" line. Around My Way is great because of the sample and I love Roses, Put Em Up and Audubon Ballroom. It's also ironic how much I love singing the chorus to the latter.

My favorite Lupe song? That's really hard. Obviously Hurt Me Soul is up there but I also love Streets on Fire, Sunshine, Dumb It Down, Put You On Game and a lot more. He's probably the second hardest rapper to pick a favorite song besides Talib.


Lol the hook on Ballroom is hilarious tbh

Speaking of hooks, Sunshine's >>>>>>>>>>

I never really got into Talib tbh. I LOVE Black Star and Mos Def so I should probably listen to his albums more

@Crash lol sorry for completely changing the topic of your thread. Lemons >>
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Re: Slug is GOAT

Postby CrashBand » Nov 27th, '12, 19:17

Accor wrote:
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Lambo Angels is my favorite song on the album and I think really the only awkward part was the "put the penis next to mine" line. Around My Way is great because of the sample and I love Roses, Put Em Up and Audubon Ballroom. It's also ironic how much I love singing the chorus to the latter.

My favorite Lupe song? That's really hard. Obviously Hurt Me Soul is up there but I also love Streets on Fire, Sunshine, Dumb It Down, Put You On Game and a lot more. He's probably the second hardest rapper to pick a favorite song besides Talib.


Lol the hook on Ballroom is hilarious tbh

Speaking of hooks, Sunshine's >>>>>>>>>>

I never really got into Talib tbh. I LOVE Black Star and Mos Def so I should probably listen to his albums more

@Crash lol sorry for completely changing the topic of your thread. Lemons >>

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Re: Slug is GOAT

Postby LIL_B » Nov 27th, '12, 19:29

lol dickhead^

Sad clown bad dub II ¨>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*
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Re: Slug is GOAT

Postby classthe_king » Nov 27th, '12, 19:38

Lemons is definitely a contender for GOAT album
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Re: Slug is GOAT

Postby Accor » Nov 27th, '12, 20:01

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slug definitely has a top tier discography
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Re: Slug is GOAT

Postby Block » Nov 27th, '12, 22:18

I've been saying this for years. Slug is the greatest storyteller in music history. I dont even think there's a valid argument against that statement.


I gave these breakdowns in THIS thread some time last year.



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God Loves Ugly is a musical masterpiece for more than one reason. I could probably write a doctoral thesis on why Slug is one of the greatest lyricists of all time. God Loves Ugly (GLU for short from now on) was groundbreaking when it was released. The only one enacting a style even remotely similar to what's seen in GLU, at the time, was Aesop Rock. Even then the styles--even though both abstract--bore no resemblance to one another. GLU set lyrical presidence. Not only for Slug's amazingly arrogant (yet ever so delicate) delivery, but his content was other-wordly. Even today, almost a decade later, very few albums live up to GLU. That's saying something profound.

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My personal favorite album of all time. ('lemons' for short) embraces the type of storytelling that Slick Rick pioneered and takes it to another dimension. Not only does Slug manage to articulate amazingly well-written stories that everyone can relate to, he does it in the most artistic way possible. He encompasses Hip Hop with every breath spit at the mic. From his caricatured portrayal of the tobacco industry in 'The Skinny', to his metaphorically abstract views on the War On Terror in the song 'Your Glasshouse'.. Slug never fails to amaze with his lyricism. Still keeping that abstract edge that he made a name for himself with in GLU.

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'US' is an album that, in my opinion, was needed. 'US' talks about struggles never before seen in hip hop. I mean, who talks about being homosexual? That's not exactly what makes 'US' a masterpiece, though, that is part of it. What makes 'US' a masterpiece is the portrayal of such subjects. The emotion behind every word spoken over the most delicately placed instrumentals. If you doubt what I'm saying, just listen to the two songs 'Tight Rope' and 'Babygirl'. You won't doubt any longer. Every word that Brother Ali speaks on this album seems to be carfully placed. Every word has a meaning to it. Nothing is left to chance. Not only this, but the entire album is a call for peace. A call for acceptance. Something I don't think has ever been done before in hop hop history. An entire album devoted to bringing people together, and done-so in the most artistic way possible.

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Emotion. Emotion. Emotion. Easily one of the biggest rollercoaster rides I've ever been on when listening to an album. The emotion behind the wildly articulated lyricism on this album is beyond amazing. I've said it before and I'll continue to say it: Eyedea was, and still is, one of the greatest lyricists to ever live. This album should be considered a masterpiece purely on its originality alone. That's only half of what makes it great, though. The other half, beside the amazing emotion, is the lyricism.. Eyedea puts words and phrases together that I would never, ever fathom.


I can't find the image for Drawn With An Eraser, but it's there.

^^ Drawn With An Eraser is a masterpiece in my eyes. Basically for the same reasons By The Throat is. Except Spoon isn't nearly as good as putting words together as Eyedea. The originality in what's being said, in culmination with how it's being said, and the instrumentals it's being said over.. Simply astounding.






Only 5 albums I've ever listened to and been genuinely astounded by what is being portrayed.
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Re: Slug is GOAT

Postby CrashBand » Nov 28th, '12, 01:19

What are your favourite Atmosphere songs Block?

Like, a rough top ten.
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Re: Slug is GOAT

Postby Block » Nov 28th, '12, 01:29

Your Glass House
Shoulda Known
Yesterday
The Waitress
Fuck You Lucy
Lovelife
Vampires
God's Bathroom Floor
I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings
Gotta Lotta Walls / Always Coming Back Home To You



It's hard to make a top 10 when it comes to Atmosphere. I love nearly everything Slug has done, minus his latest album. But the EP before the album was sick.
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Re: Slug is GOAT

Postby CrashBand » Nov 28th, '12, 01:48

Yeah, it's pretty impossible. I feel you could randomly pick songs from lemons and not go too wrong.

The Last To Say is still an amazing song and gets me every time I listen. Although, that album was a bit of a disappointment overall.

Have you seen Slug live? It was one of my personal best experiences.
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