Hopsin can Rap but the major problem is

[Mahmoud48]

Talent? im not even gonna be ignorant right now but tell me u understand that everyone will have a different opinion on whos talented or not

[Aftermathers]

It's not just Hopsin be it Tyler, Slim Shady Persona, Redman, Bizzare from D12 etc a lotta people just don't feel that Comedy, gimmicky goofy Music is good Music

[Elision]

But that's the main thing Hopsin simply has to mature and make way more records with good Content, with good Subject Matter just good Music basically if he wants to be succesful.

See here's where you're fucking up. It's not about conforming to the cookie-cutter aspects of becoming successful. Doing that defeats the entire purpose of being an underground indi artist. That's the point of it. To be able to have the freedom to record anything you damn well please, without people like you - who disagree with it, having any power over it due to that.

I'm not dickriding, but I know the dude personally, and you couldn't be further off. You simply cannot throw indi artists into the same pile as major commercial hits, because of the fact that they're too not-that-way to ever fit that mold. And if they ever did, it would contradict everything they've built.

[Aftermathers]

Trimss i checked those Songs out but basically what i'm saying is those Songs didn't move me or connect with me like say Rock Bottom, Sing For The Moment, Mockingbird, Going Through Changes, Dear Mama, Life Goes On, Jesus Walks etc did


I didn't feel those Hopsin Songs on that level

[Aftermathers]

But that's the main thing Hopsin simply has to mature and make way more records with good Content, with good Subject Matter just good Music basically if he wants to be succesful.

See here's where you're fucking up. It's not about conforming to the cookie-cutter aspects of becoming successful. Doing that defeats the entire purpose of being an underground indi artist. That's the point of it. To be able to have the freedom to record anything you damn well please, without people like you - who disagree with it, having any power over it due to that.

I'm not dickriding, but I know the dude personally, and you couldn't be further off. You simply cannot throw indi artists into the same pile as major commercial hits, because of the fact that they're too not-that-way to ever fit that mold. And if they ever did, it would contradict everything they've built.

Don't get me wrong no 1 is telling Hopsin fans not to like him but its mental behaviour when his fans get psycho wen people simply state opinions on why they don't like his Music.



It's all opinion every Artist will have people stating opinions about them.

[Trimss]

Trimss i checked those Songs out but basically what i'm saying is those Songs didn't move me or connect with me like say Rock Bottom, Sing For The Moment, Mockingbird, Going Through Changes, Dear Mama, Life Goes On, Jesus Walks etc did


I didn't feel those Hopsin Songs on that level

But that's because these songs are all classics songs made by mature artists. Eminem didn't drop a Sing For The Moment on his first album, remember that.

You should check Knock Madness when it drops.

[Mahmoud48]

Talent? im not even gonna be ignorant right now but tell me u understand that everyone will have a different opinion on whos talented or not

Success =/= talent...you were outlining how successful he is. That doesn't measure talent.

it kinda does....if everyone likes u u have to be doing something right
just because to U he has no talent doesnt mean he doesnt to many other people
so ur logic is flawed

[Trimss]

Talent? im not even gonna be ignorant right now but tell me u understand that everyone will have a different opinion on whos talented or not

If that's the case, then why even compare them in the first place? I like them both.

Yeah. Hopsin is wack and he's a faggot, yet if people like his shit that means he's doing something right.

Wtf

[Mahmoud48]

Talent? im not even gonna be ignorant right now but tell me u understand that everyone will have a different opinion on whos talented or not

If that's the case, then why even compare them in the first place? I like them both.

because if u cant compare talents then compare their success

[Aftermathers]

Talent? im not even gonna be ignorant right now but tell me u understand that everyone will have a different opinion on whos talented or not

Success =/= talent...you were outlining how successful he is. That doesn't measure talent.

My definition of talent is basically being able to Write and craft good Music, making Music that actually moves the listener make powerfull Music incoperating good Lyrics, emotions, being able to get Deep but also can have fun records that are really actually funny. Crafting everything well from Lyrics to Hooks to Message and complimenting it with picking quality Beats.


That is why i think Eminem and 2pac are the most talented ever just put Eminem ahead of him cos he more of an Artist than 2pac as far as Eminem is a Producer too can Sing on Hooks too but in a nut shell that is what i consider talent.


A great Song Writter basically.

[Aftermathers]

Talent? im not even gonna be ignorant right now but tell me u understand that everyone will have a different opinion on whos talented or not

If that's the case, then why even compare them in the first place? I like them both.

Yeah. Hopsin is wack and he's a faggot, yet if people like his shit that means he's doing something right.

Wtf

I never once called him a fag i simply said it's his Content, Subject Matter in most his records that makes his Music wack.

[Trimss]

^ It was Mahmoud, not you.

[SG.]

Well, if you don't "feel" the songs, that's your opinion. But he still does the "mature" content you so love to hear from one particular artist I think is called M&M.

Hopsin does the content you say he doesn't have. PARADOX.

[Mahmoud48]

the fact isnt that hopsin is good or not...its that hes overrrated on this forum

[Trimss]

the fact isnt that hopsin is good or not...its that hes overrrated on this forum

He's not overrated. He gets a lot of shit here too, but since you like to always start talking shit about him it's obvious that we're gonna defend him and say he's dope.