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Re: Is age important for a rapper?

Postby Relapse.LP » Nov 10th, '09, 06:24

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MeathookSodomy wrote:Wow.
I cannot believe how fucking disrespectful some of you are. Is Megadeth irrelevant to thrash because they're in their 40's? Is Cannibal Corpse irrelevant to death metal because they're in their 40's? Fuck no. Both of their 2009 albums charted. If anything, veterans are better. Most new music just sucks and it doesn't have the balls that it used to.
If you want Em to retire just because of the timespan between his birth and now, that's just stupid. Besides, then we'll be stuck with faggots like Asher Roth. But it would be okay with you because he's under 30. Fuck that. We have just about the worst generation right now, and it's because we don't have any fucking respect for anything outside what's "in". Fucking sheep

No offense to rock or anything, but this thread is about rappers lol not rockstars. All I said was, if someone isn't putting out good music, then they should retire. Hip Hop relies on Jay-Z, Nas, and Eminem because their top emcees, but if they were to retire because their not putting out good music than that will open a gap for new emcees to feel hungry in order to take those positions and it will be a better outcome imo than it would be to have old rappers not in their league anymore and putting out wack music. Jay-Z should retire for a FACT. Blueprint 3 was NOTHING special, NOTHING beside the cheap business scheme to sell records, and put a "Blueprint 3" in the title and make it seem like its going to be amazing as the first or some what on the seconds level at least, when really it was WACK. Mobb Deep should retire as well as some others that have turned to ape shit.

I wasn't responding to you. I was responding to the people who were saying a rapper should retire solely based on their age, without regard to actual music quality.
Jay has retired, he just won't accept it yet...


Epic fail statement. I do believe "The Blueprint 3" was just released? If you're going to diss a major-label MC, at least state some facts, not some random whack comments that don't mean shit.

So you're saying Jay-Z, who has been putting out albums basically once a year (excluding a break from 2003-2006 and a 2-year period from 2007-2009) since 1996, where he released a classic record, is basically "retired" and Eminem who has released 5 albums over the span of 10 years (Jay-Z has released 11 albums in 13 years) has just returned from the dead and is coming to takeover again?

Bullshit statement, no offense. Calling a rapper retired when they just released an album around 2 months ago is one of the most ignorant things someone can say about MTV's "Best Rapper Ever".

^As much as I disagree with the above comment, I had to throw it in to show you that Jay-Z is indeed not "retired" as you so blatantly, without any regard to the current situation, suggest like it's right.^

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Re: Is age important for a rapper?

Postby EminemIVLife » Nov 10th, '09, 10:05

Jay Z should have retired after The Black Album. BP3 was shallow as fuck too. And Em must drop at least another 4 albums before I am satisfied that he can retire.
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Re: Is age important for a rapper?

Postby AliJack » Nov 10th, '09, 12:13

Chet Starr wrote:AliJack I say this as a friend, you just said a ton of bullshit

I'm not talking about the hate of other music, I don't give a fuck lol

But saying it doesn't take much skill to drum (or w/e) is just stupid as hell

Yeah, I didn't mean that drum shit, it just kept the rant goin' on. :p my bad for sure haha @ Wic_Kid, respected or not, I don't give a fuck about it.
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Re: Is age important for a rapper?

Postby Wic Kid » Nov 10th, '09, 12:24

AliJack wrote:
Chet Starr wrote:AliJack I say this as a friend, you just said a ton of bullshit

I'm not talking about the hate of other music, I don't give a fuck lol

But saying it doesn't take much skill to drum (or w/e) is just stupid as hell

Yeah, I didn't mean that drum shit, it just kept the rant goin' on. @ Wic_Kid, respected or not, I don't give a fuck about it.


I cant see why would any rap fan hate rock, but okay... Your business.
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Re: Is age important for a rapper?

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Nov 10th, '09, 21:59

If you're a Jay-Z fan, go to a Jay-Z forum. He gets no respect from me because he treats rap like a business rather than an art form.
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Re: Is age important for a rapper?

Postby Wic Kid » Nov 10th, '09, 22:00

MeathookSodomy wrote:If you're a Jay-Z fan, go to a Jay-Z forum. He gets no respect from me because he treats rap like a business rather than an art form.


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Re: Is age important for a rapper?

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Nov 10th, '09, 22:17

Wow. Maybe this IS a Jay-Z forum.
Don't get me wrong, I like Jay-Z. I just think he tends to undermine personal expression in favor of being commercial.
I'm not arguing with anyone on this.
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Re: Is age important for a rapper?

Postby Wic Kid » Nov 10th, '09, 22:22

MeathookSodomy wrote:Wow. Maybe this IS a Jay-Z forum.
Don't get me wrong, I like Jay-Z. I just think he tends to undermine personal expression in favor of being commercial.
I'm not arguing with anyone on this.


Hey man, I respect Jay too. But he's not even in my top 10 rappers, maybe even 15.
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Re: Is age important for a rapper?

Postby Relapse.LP » Nov 11th, '09, 00:40

MeathookSodomy wrote:If you're a Jay-Z fan, go to a Jay-Z forum. He gets no respect from me because he treats rap like a business rather than an art form.


The ignorance of some members even extends to judging Jay-Z just EXCLUSIVELY by the quality of his latest release, The Blueprint 3.

How would you react if someone said that Eminem sucked, just solely because Relapse sucked?

And if you think Jay-Z treats rap like a business, look which artist is making poppy first singles just to get airplay and sell more records than most people? Smfh at ignorant people.

I bet you you never listened to Reasonable Doubt or The Blueprint 1? :n:

Wow, I feel like I'm repeating myself when I'm criticizing ignorant comments on Jay-Z. Just for your information, attacking Jay-Z on an Eminem forum, ironic as it sounds, will not get you desperate approval from other people nor will it make you sound like you're educated in hip-hop in the least.

Just something I thought I might point out. :b:

EDIT: And I can't be both a Jay-Z and Eminem fan? Are the two enemies or something? Fail...
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Re: Is age important for a rapper?

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Nov 11th, '09, 02:19

I own Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint, Black Album, and American Gangster. I like them.
I take back my retirement comment. That was ignorant and hypocritical.
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Re: Is age important for a rapper?

Postby Relapse.LP » Nov 11th, '09, 02:22

MeathookSodomy wrote:I own Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint, Black Album, and American Gangster. I like them.
I take back my retirement comment. That was ignorant and hypocritical.


No problem. :y:
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Re: Is age important for a rapper?

Postby Subzi » Nov 12th, '09, 07:24

"Ask the teenagers, O’Gs and Ask the kids
What they definition of Classic is
Timeless, cause age don’t count in the booth
And your flow stays submerged in the fountain of youth"
-Rakim

I think getting into ya 50s and still spitting and is a bit crazy, but iunno, Jay is gunna be 40 and next month and I can't deny Blueprint 3 at all, shit's dope in my opinion.

Plus Bill Cosby made a rap record, and ain't he like 70 something? :laughing:
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Re: Is age important for a rapper?

Postby EminemIVLife » Nov 12th, '09, 08:36

da.relapse.lp wrote:
MeathookSodomy wrote:If you're a Jay-Z fan, go to a Jay-Z forum. He gets no respect from me because he treats rap like a business rather than an art form.


The ignorance of some members even extends to judging Jay-Z just EXCLUSIVELY by the quality of his latest release, The Blueprint 3.

How would you react if someone said that Eminem sucked, just solely because Relapse sucked?

And if you think Jay-Z treats rap like a business, look which artist is making poppy first singles just to get airplay and sell more records than most people? Smfh at ignorant people.

I bet you you never listened to Reasonable Doubt or The Blueprint 1? :n:

Wow, I feel like I'm repeating myself when I'm criticizing ignorant comments on Jay-Z. Just for your information, attacking Jay-Z on an Eminem forum, ironic as it sounds, will not get you desperate approval from other people nor will it make you sound like you're educated in hip-hop in the least.

Just something I thought I might point out. :b:

EDIT: And I can't be both a Jay-Z and Eminem fan? Are the two enemies or something? Fail...


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Re: Is age important for a rapper?

Postby Relapse.LP » Nov 12th, '09, 08:40

EminemIVLife wrote:
da.relapse.lp wrote:
MeathookSodomy wrote:If you're a Jay-Z fan, go to a Jay-Z forum. He gets no respect from me because he treats rap like a business rather than an art form.


The ignorance of some members even extends to judging Jay-Z just EXCLUSIVELY by the quality of his latest release, The Blueprint 3.

How would you react if someone said that Eminem sucked, just solely because Relapse sucked?

And if you think Jay-Z treats rap like a business, look which artist is making poppy first singles just to get airplay and sell more records than most people? Smfh at ignorant people.

I bet you you never listened to Reasonable Doubt or The Blueprint 1? :n:

Wow, I feel like I'm repeating myself when I'm criticizing ignorant comments on Jay-Z. Just for your information, attacking Jay-Z on an Eminem forum, ironic as it sounds, will not get you desperate approval from other people nor will it make you sound like you're educated in hip-hop in the least.

Just something I thought I might point out. :b:

EDIT: And I can't be both a Jay-Z and Eminem fan? Are the two enemies or something? Fail...


Relapse didnt suck. Fail.


It's opinion. I didn't enjoy it particularly. Fail at you can't realizing this is strictly opinion.
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Re: Is age important for a rapper?

Postby Xray » Nov 12th, '09, 08:51

Relapse did suck compared to SSLP, MMLP, TES, and in general it did suck, only a few songs I liked.
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