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Re: Tech 9 and Crooked I

Postby CrashBand » Sep 11th, '12, 07:11

Willy's whole argument is Tech / Crooked get away with lazy writing i.e. they are not brilliant lyricists but people don't seem to see this because of their impressive rhyming, flow, delivery etc.

Your main refute is Tech's priority of rhyme / rhythm is unique in hip hop.

This goes absolutely no where in refuting Tech's writing isn't very lyrical.
It actually further illustrates Willy's point that people seem to blindly defend his sub-par lyrics because they are so swept away by his amazing rhyming / flow.

I could write a verse focusing only on rhyming and flow. Very unique of me might I add.

Love-your-best-kick-to-save-me
Hug-four-leg-flips-to-Katie

As you can see this is not coherent. Not very good lyrically. Actually it makes no sense whatsoever.

Now Tech isn't quite as extreme but he does trade off a lot for the sake of rhyme.
This is fine if that's what floats your boat but people tend to give him props as one of the best lyricists while not addressing his mumbo jumbo.

Dumbo fumbo.
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Re: Tech 9 and Crooked I

Postby Elision » Sep 11th, '12, 07:47

Someone pointed out a few bars from this ring, but other than that I don't see where he doesn't make sense. Of course you could point out a bar here and there but Em does that crap too

and @Amadeo, tech doesn't care about just going fast. he does it to force different flows to fit the beat
i'm comin in, drivin my short bus
with this nose i don't need a torch up
bustin through, light the industry's porsche up
comin after who didn't support us...
imma change your brain bring
every wicked bit of strange to mainstream
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Re: Tech 9 and Crooked I

Postby CrashBand » Sep 11th, '12, 07:52

Amadeo wrote:You wanna hear someone who can out-rap him in double/triple time, and still actually be saying something? This guy.


A song about grammar, ignorant idiots and a Louie T-shirt = Amadeo in heaven.
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Re: Tech 9 and Crooked I

Postby CrashBand » Sep 11th, '12, 09:29

Yeah the songs pretty awesome. My Facebook banner is a freeze frame from the video.
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Re: Tech 9 and Crooked I

Postby Arrinef » Sep 11th, '12, 09:43

its been i a good while since i picked a topic that tickled my fancy,
Im gonna break this down. But before i do, i get what your saying. Sometimes these dudes go off the wall and out the window sometimes. I agree

But lets break your example down
"Then I let you witness shit when it hit the ceiling
The ***** willing to give the listeners the sickest feeling
Like mixing some Benadryl and penicillin"

earlier this year i ate some carrots, which im allergic to.
I always carry some benadryl in my cabinet for my allergies, and penicillin for the reaction.
Im thinking he's referring to listiening to the record and making you ill and shit yourself like the way benadryl and penicillin do combined.
You take the ben which is a downer(a good one at that) and penicillin (which has a pretty common side effect for making your stomach go rancid),
which i know in experience.And that fact he mentions mixing them together bases this bar for me.
Though no true meaning like you say, but it makes sense.

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Re: Tech 9 and Crooked I

Postby alphakid13 » Sep 12th, '12, 03:03

wow mac lethal is such a faggot

such a gimmicky rapper

making songs about grammar lmao what a weirdo

i do agree with the op tho

i just like listenin to tech nd crooked for there amazing flow and rhythm

its just fun to rap along to
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At the same burger stand where --- hang out
Now this is not a tape recorder saying that he did it
But ever since that day, I was lookin at him different"
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Re: Tech 9 and Crooked I

Postby Elision » Sep 12th, '12, 08:38

Amadeo wrote:Biting Eminem's dinosaur/spinal cord rhyme doesn't help either.
huh? didn't diz rhyme these in the arcane battle?
i'm comin in, drivin my short bus
with this nose i don't need a torch up
bustin through, light the industry's porsche up
comin after who didn't support us...
imma change your brain bring
every wicked bit of strange to mainstream
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Re: Tech 9 and Crooked I

Postby CrashBand » Sep 12th, '12, 08:41

Elision wrote:
Amadeo wrote:Biting Eminem's dinosaur/spinal cord rhyme doesn't help either.
huh? didn't diz rhyme these in the arcane battle?

From Drug Ballad.
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Re: Tech 9 and Crooked I

Postby Elision » Sep 12th, '12, 09:28

CrashBand wrote:
Elision wrote:
Amadeo wrote:Biting Eminem's dinosaur/spinal cord rhyme doesn't help either.
huh? didn't diz rhyme these in the arcane battle?

From Drug Ballad.
no, no, I get that. I'm saying that other rappers have rhymed those two words
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with this nose i don't need a torch up
bustin through, light the industry's porsche up
comin after who didn't support us...
imma change your brain bring
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Re: Tech 9 and Crooked I

Postby CrashBand » Sep 12th, '12, 10:38

Pat Stay is a pretty impressive rhymer from what I've seen.
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Re: Tech 9 and Crooked I

Postby alphakid13 » Sep 12th, '12, 23:27

Amadeo wrote:I forgot that Mac Lethal isn't allowed to rap about grammar. Eminem isn't allowed to rap about Nintendo and fast food. Those topics aren't wiggerish enough...they're too common in everyday life.

Nobody gives a shit about unremarkable rappers like Pat Stay because they rhyme a bunch of meaningless horse shit about viking lords and spikes and thorns. I know those are lyrics from a battle of his, but him and rappers like him aren't interesting at all. Biting Eminem's dinosaur/spinal cord rhyme doesn't help either.

You can be the guy standing in the corner rapping about Spartan shields and Excalibur swords, and get no more than a couple thousand views on your Youtube channel, or you could actually say something interesting and get millions of views like ML has done.


The thing is.. Pat Stay was flied out to battle in Sweden for a lot of cash and he used all throw away bars.

Marketablity? Pat Stay has no motivation to be a fully motivated battle rapper. He makes good music but he has said it several times, it;s just something he does on the side.

Pat Stay might not be lyrical as other battle rappers/rappers, it's the way he delivers and the presence he has.

its called swag nikka
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Re: Tech 9 and Crooked I

Postby Willy » Sep 13th, '12, 01:05

He be trollin'.
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Re: Tech 9 and Crooked I

Postby CrashBand » Sep 13th, '12, 02:05

WilyMo021 wrote:He be trollin'.


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