Tech N9ne's verses make me go..."what?"

[CrashBand]

Hmm. That's well put. But surely your reductionistic version of lyricism is just word choice?

Would the same logic mean alliteration is not part of lyricism? or perhaps even vocabulary?
i.e. changing a word would affect your vocabulary and changing a word would also affect your 'lyricism'.

[cheeseburger]

'lyricism' to ME is , to put it easy, when a rapper tries to paint a bigger picture for the listener. When a songs lyrics makes me sit down for a while and think about what I just heard. Sometimes this makes songs sound bad, but thats when things get really intresting, cause it can take hundreds listens before the meaning is so clear that I wonder why I was confused at all.

[classthe_king]

Hmm. That's well put. But surely your reductionistic version of lyricism is just word choice?

Would the same logic mean alliteration is not part of lyricism? or perhaps even vocabulary?
i.e. changing a word would affect your vocabulary and changing a word would also affect your 'lyricism'.

Well for one, I think vocabulary is kind of pointless, but it also goes hand in hand with word choice. If the word you're choosing is a better word then the lyricism goes up and vice versa.

And I wouldn't really consider alliteration a part of lyricism, it's more in delivery or maybe flow since that's what it's helping.

[CrashBand]

I still feel that's rhyming is part of lyricism as its part of the "how you are writing" - by rhyming.

But I see how you are saying the how you are writing pretty much covers word choice and rhyming is a by product of picking certain words.

[Elision]

rhyming is a by product of picking certain words.

Not necessarily. A lot of times things won't rhyme unless delivered properly (Relapse is a great example)

[CrashBand]

Yeah I mentioned that earlier

[Elision]

ah my bad just got home

[SliK]

Thanks for that, I collect them

You might like the first verse of this song then
http://youtu.be/0YYlwzJXNtI