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how eminem is better than lil wayne

Postby eminemmathers70 » Oct 9th, '11, 20:51

Unread postby eminemmathers70 on Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:22 am
my friend got into an argument today and he was saying lil wayne is better than Eminem. can u help me find arguments to why he is wrong. He keeps on saying that lil wayne does not use auto tone except for lollipop, he says eminem uses autotone in drop the world. he tells me that lil wayne has more record sales than him, that his music videos are more poular than eminems, and that lil wayne's how to love has more radio play than any eminem's songs. that he is better lyrically. and lastly that he is number one right now on record sales. he also tells me that eminem's lyrics are worthless and nobody cares about listening about his life.i appreciate your input.

my friend also says eminem's songs have no meaning as rap songs arent supposed to have meaning? how can i prove to him that eminem's songs have meaning and that rap songs can have meaning.

my frind also tells me that wayne's lyrics r better, how can i prove to him that eminem is better lyrically. i would really appreciate that.
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Re: how eminem is better than lil wayne

Postby Midnight EyeZ » Dec 10th, '11, 14:37

How Eminem is better than Lil' Wayne???...Should that even need to be questioned???...

I don't know where these people get these crazy ideas...

I had to stop reading at the point where you wrote your friend said Wayne is better lyrically...

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Re: how eminem is better than lil wayne

Postby Sekou » Dec 10th, '11, 15:00

If you seriously can't prove to him that Eminem is better than Wayne lyrically or that rap songs have meanings, then neither of you have any business discussing Hip Hop altogether. Simple as that.
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Re: how eminem is better than lil wayne

Postby EG. » Dec 10th, '11, 15:29

there might be only one effective solution; violence
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Re: how eminem is better than lil wayne

Postby Midnight EyeZ » Dec 10th, '11, 15:33

I doubt as members of an Eminem forum, any of us are biased here...

This is literally the most absurd suggestion I've ever heard of...Your friend sounds like a right douchebag, and no disrespect but there has to be some questioning on your part if you have to ask us for examples of why Eminem is better than Wayne lol...
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Re: how eminem is better than lil wayne

Postby Beak » Dec 10th, '11, 16:09

If it doesn't come to you naturally why he's better, how can you call yourself a fan :?: And if Wayne's songs got played more on the radio, ( I live in Detroit, so I hear more Em) it doesn't mean he's better. It means the idiots @ the station don't know good music.
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Re: how eminem is better than lil wayne

Postby WakeUpShow » Dec 10th, '11, 16:14

Punch him in the face and get the inevitable out of the way.

lol...
Get the lyrics argument out of the way first, that's an easy win.
-Show him examples of Em's inverse rhyming, internal rhyming, a few of his impressive ass multis, advanced vocab and his rhyme structure. Basically, show him Em's 1st Renegade verse and break it down
-Show him Em's wit and humor. While Wayne relys on puns for comedic affect (which he doesn't really have tbh). Songs like Who Knew, Role Model, and Criminal show Eminem's ridiculous clever way of thinking, you don't even get all the jabs and undertones of his work in the first few listens. He makes music legitimately funny, that's impressive. Ask him if Wayne has ever made him laugh out loud.
-Show him the ground-breaking (epic if you will) songs of Eminem (Rock Bottom, Stan, The Way I Am, Lose Yourself, Sing for the Moment). Ask him to show you songs by Wayne that contain lyrics as inspiring and revolutionary. I doubt he can name one. The songs I listed are anthems.
-Ask him who has a smoother flow, show him Lose Yourself. Ask him who writes better hooks, show him Business, Deja Vu, Cleanin' Out My Closet, Who Knew, White America. Ask him who has better variety of topics, tell him to listen to the Eminem Show. Ask him who has better features, show him Renegade, Don't Approach Me, My Name, Patiently Waiting, etc. He'll probably show you show bullshit T-Pain song.
- Eminem has MAJOR props from Jay-Z, Nas, Xzibit, Rakim, R.A. the Rugged Man, Scarface, Raekwon, Andre 3000, Slug from Atmosphere and the list goes on and on and on and on and on and on. Who does Lil Wayne have?
- If Wayne is better than Em, why did Em SLAUGHTER Wayne on all three of the songs they're on together? Forever, Drop the World and No Love.
-Who's more critically aclaimed? Wayne is considered a joke in the music industry. Em has gotten very positive feedback for his lyrical skill from rock stars, singers, authors, actors, even a few notable poets.
- If he wants to talk sales and popularity, Em is the highest selling ARTIST of the past decade, He also has one of the most viewed videos on youtube.
-If he brings up Encore, bring up The Carter III, Rebirth, Carter IV, I Am Not a Human Being, all of his songs with birdman, nicki minaj, drake and the rest of the Young Funny Crew.
-Cherry on top: Wayne said Eminem is a thousand times better than him.

Don't lose your temper in this and you win like a champ, good luck.
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Re: how eminem is better than lil wayne

Postby Stanforever » Dec 10th, '11, 16:30

Fuck you both.....
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Re: how eminem is better than lil wayne

Postby Midnight EyeZ » Dec 10th, '11, 17:05

RiseFromTheAshez wrote:just show him this
http://theurbandaily.com/gossip-news/ja ... f-hip-hop/


Haha, I can't even accept that as a valid list, simply because it has Lil' Wayne, Drake and Nicki Minaj in it!!!...

But even if it was a long list of notable lyricists Em would still have to be number one, closely followed by Possessed...UK Hip-Hop is SOOOOO overlooked :(
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Re: how eminem is better than lil wayne

Postby Trimss » Dec 10th, '11, 17:42

EvaG wrote:there might be only one effective solution; violence


Yeah.

Your friend is dumb or he's just trolling you.
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Re: how eminem is better than lil wayne

Postby LK5 » Dec 10th, '11, 18:04

That guy must be dumb. He wouldn't be my friend after this
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Re: how eminem is better than lil wayne

Postby Sam. » Dec 10th, '11, 18:48


Nothing more. If he doesn't find this convincing to prove that "Eminem > Wayne", then I'm sorry for you.
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Re: how eminem is better than lil wayne

Postby Fleka » Dec 10th, '11, 18:57

If he said that Wayne is better lyrically than he knows nothing about rap and his opinion don`t count. Simple as that.
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Re: how eminem is better than lil wayne

Postby Sam. » Dec 10th, '11, 20:32

InsaneTRex94 wrote:Don't forget Forever (where Em was clearly the best, anyone telling themselves otherwise is kidding themselves) and Drop The World (one of my favorite Em verses since his return to music)

This one stands out in the comparison that is being done here. Forever has many others so mentioning it won't support the argument that well.
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Re: how eminem is better than lil wayne

Postby Sam. » Dec 10th, '11, 20:59

InsaneTRex94 wrote:
Sam. wrote:
InsaneTRex94 wrote:Don't forget Forever (where Em was clearly the best, anyone telling themselves otherwise is kidding themselves) and Drop The World (one of my favorite Em verses since his return to music)

This one stands out in the comparison that is being done here. Forever has many others so mentioning it won't support the argument that well.


...Em still had the best verse :8)

I agree.I'm just saying that forever can raise more stupid comparison.
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