Stic.Man & Jay Electronica ghostwrote for Nas

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_jZpYoj ... _embedded#!

Nas is a better writer than Jay will ever be. He confirmed it's not true.

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^ What does that even mean? He ghostwrote for him then?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_jZpYojacA&feature=player_embedded#!

Nas is a better writer than Jay will ever be. He confirmed it's not true.

Jay Electronica is better than Nas by far imo. Exhibit A and Exhibit C are better than every Nas track released. But then again everybody got their opinions especially in a comparison such as this. He just needs that album.

I was talking about Jay-Z. I wouldn't say that about Jay Electronica because I haven't heard enough of him. I would probably like him from what I heard though.

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Nah. Nas is way more versatile than Jay-Z.

Daughters > Blue Ivy song.
Life Is Good > The last Blueprint
Distant Relatives > Watch The Throne (overall, though Niggas in paris and murder to excellence >> *)

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I like you Trimss but I'd have to disagree. Nas keeps trying to regurgitate the same album every time he drops and is way less versatile than Jay-Z even on his best days. Nas is good though, not better than Jay-Z however.

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I like you Trimss but I'd have to disagree. Nas keeps trying to regurgitate the same album every time he drops and is way less versatile than Jay-Z even on his best days. Nas is good though, not better than Jay-Z however.

Nas's storytelling is really better than Jay-Z's though.. His ability to make bangers and great hits is obviously what made him more famous and popular than Nas. And his beats too, like Death of Autotune. That song is AMAZIIIIING.
As a rapper though, Nas is better.


I love both though. A lot.

[Man1x]

I like you Trimss but I'd have to disagree. Nas keeps trying to regurgitate the same album every time he drops and is way less versatile than Jay-Z even on his best days. Nas is good though, not better than Jay-Z however.

Nas's storytelling is really better than Jay-Z's though.. His ability to make bangers and great hits is obviously what made him more famous and popular than Nas. And his beats too, like Death of Autotune. That song is AMAZIIIIING.
As a rapper though, Nas is better.


I love both though. A lot.

I'd still disagree, but I respect your opinion. I'm one of the people who thinks that Jay murdered Nas with Takeover. That song > Ether imho.

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name agrees with you. I think the Takeover is awesome, but just wasn't enough.

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name agrees with you. I think the Takeover is awesome, but just wasn't enough.

Ether has the attitude, but Takeover has the facts. Ether is nothing more than fag jokes tbh.

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name agrees with you. I think the Takeover is awesome, but just wasn't enough.

Ether has the attitude, but Takeover has the facts. Ether is nothing more than fag jokes tbh.

"Eminem killed you on your own shit" "KRS already made an album called Blue Print" and the stuff about Jay calling his phone and Nas' didn't even give out his number. I really think ether is a very solid diss.

Overall I like Jay better. I think Illmatic is amazing, better than anything of Jay's, but Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint and The Black Album are all better than the rest of Nas' discography IMO.

I live Nas though, I'd be very surprised if he had ghost writers.

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I like you Trimss but I'd have to disagree. Nas keeps trying to regurgitate the same album every time he drops and is way less versatile than Jay-Z even on his best days. Nas is good though, not better than Jay-Z however.

Nas's storytelling is really better than Jay-Z's though.. His ability to make bangers and great hits is obviously what made him more famous and popular than Nas. And his beats too, like Death of Autotune. That song is AMAZIIIIING.
As a rapper though, Nas is better.


I love both though. A lot.

I'd still disagree, but I respect your opinion. I'm one of the people who thinks that Jay murdered Nas with Takeover. That song > Ether imho.

Really Reasonable Doubt is the only album that stands up to Nas, JayZ's lyrics are so damn stupid for the most part after. The shit on albums Hard Knock life vol 2 gets praised by his fans but every single thing about the lyrics (especially the title track) is just awful its like hes not even trying. Blueprint and Black album are good albums, but Jay never goes crazy on a track, he just sticks with adequate and lets a hook do the work; it just sounds like forced showbiz shit, nothing ever resonates.

That being said Vol2 isnt a bad album and I do like Jay quite a bit.

So did he ghostwrite or not? That tweet is vague as fuck.

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I know you missin all the - FAAAAAAAME!
But along with celebrity comes bout seventy shots to your brain
Nigga; you a - LAAAAAAAME!
Youse the fag model for Karl Kani/Esco ads
Went from, Nasty Nas to Esco's trash
Had a spark when you started but now you're just garbage
Fell from top ten to not mentioned at all
to your bodyguard's "Oochie Wally" verse better than yours
Matter fact you had the worst flow on the whole fuckin song
but I know - the sun don't shine, then son don't shine
That's why your - LAAAAAAAME! - career come to a end
There's only so long fake thugs can pretend
Nigga; you ain't live it you witnessed it from your folks pad
You scribbled in your notepad and created your life
I showed you your first tec on tour with Large Professor
(Me, that's who!) Then I heard your album bout your tec on your dresser
So yeah I sampled your voice, you was usin it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song
And you ain't get a corn nigga you was gettin fucked and
I know who I paid God, Serchlite Publishing
Use your - BRAAAAAAAIN! You said you been in this ten
I've been in it five - smarten up Nas
Four albums in ten years nigga? I could divide
That's one every let's say two, two of them shits was due
One was - NAHHH, the other was "Illmatic"
That's a one hot album every ten year average
And that's so - LAAAAAAAME! Nigga switch up your flow
Your shit is garbage, but you try and kick knowledge?
(Get the fuck outta here) You niggaz gon' learn to respect the king
Don't be the next contestant on that Summer Jam screen
Because you know who (who) did you know what (what)
with you know who (yeah) but just keep that between me and you for now

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Is he Oochie Wallie Wallie or is he One Mic?
Is he Black Girl Lost or shorty owe you for ice?

Kapiche, Nas' career destroyed. Nas been doing the same album since forever except for Hip Hop is Dead which is my personal favorite of him. I agree that Daughters is better than Glory though. But to say Nas is more versatile than Jay-Z is pretty weird man. Look at all the people who think Nas is boring, its because you can't sit through a full album by him without falling asleep (personally except HHID and Illmatic). Jay-Z is more consistent, more versatile, sicker flow and even though he's not creating more socially aware raps (then makes Summer on Smash) he's definitely a better writer in terms of wordplays etc. I also disagree on Life is Good being better than Blueprint 3, or even Blueprint 2. "This is for my trapped in the 90s *****" he's talking about himself tbh. But yeah opinions gets different in a comparison like this.

And I don't know what to say to someone who said Jay's lyrics are "dumb as fuck". Most of them went over your head.

I think Nas is more versatile at what I call the rapping, or the way he uses his voice. Tone wise? Ehh they're about the same. Flow wise? I think Nas could just do more, nahmean? I don't see where you're coming from when you say he's more versatile unless we're talking catalogs.

Also, I don't think you give NIGGER enough credit for sounding different. It's one of my favorite albums by him (maybe it ain't for err'body doe) but it really sounds different. Plus, Stillmatic's beat selection was pretty innovative compared to most of his albums.

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I think Nas is more versatile at what I call the rapping, or the way he uses his voice. Tone wise? Ehh they're about the same. Flow wise? I think Nas could just do more, nahmean? I don't see where you're coming from when you say he's more versatile unless we're talking catalogs.

Also, I don't think you give ***** enough credit for sounding different. It's one of my favorite albums by him (maybe it ain't for err'body doe) but it really sounds different. Plus, Stillmatic's beat selection was pretty innovative compared to most of his albums.

Naw man, Jay-Z is more versatile at everything he does, he rapped about everything without contradicting himself in his raps once, he experimented with all types of beats. He doesn't do the same flow twice, he's always experimenting, once it was fast-rapping, then it was regular 90's rapping, then it's half a bar half a bar, imo his illest flows were in American Gangster, he always switches up. But yeah, I guess I'm pretty much talking catalogs. What Nas can be more versatile about is story-telling, even though Hov has a few gems (99 Problems 2nd verse, Meet the Parents), Nas is arguably one of the best story-tellers of all time.

And tbh, ***** is my 3rd or 4th favorite Nas album, I'd rank em 1)HHID 2)Illmatic 3)God's Son or *****. It has a lot of amazing songs, Fried Chicken, and Be a ***** Too even if it didn't make the cut.

I don't get that though. To me, it sounds like the same flow every time (generalizing of course), and I never heard Jigga fast rap all that well either tbh. Especially since other GOATS can like Nas, Budden (fire), Biggie (Notorious Thugz ), and Em (Not as good but > Hov imo) to name a few.