Hopsin throws Jabs at Lil Wayne..

[Blu]

Hopsin is such a cornball. I'm amazed at the fact that people actually like this kid, and find him entertaining to listen to.

[DƎRDYPK]

reel hip hawp yoooo

although I understand why he's mad, there's only 2 sides you can pick in the music "biz"

Hopsin is such a cornball. I'm amazed at the fact that people actually like this kid, and find him entertaining to listen to.

lol copy your post from KTT & put it on here for the lulz

[LIL_B]

he's so fucking annoying with this shit, get over it

[12characters]

Hopsin's "gospel" is really killing his appeal for a lot of people.

I mean yeah he's dope, but dude should realize that no one wants to hear that kind of shit.

[EminemBase]

Hop fails to think beyond his own mind and unrealistically generalizes 'the youth' by saying they have 'no idea', even though HE does? so does he think he solely escaped the clutches of brainwashing then lmao. Also; ironically, he's only generalizing 'the youth' based on assumptions and mass media perception of the state of people and what HE sees too.

There's a lot of shit rappers, there's a lot of shit music, and there's a lot of dumb people with shit taste. But there always has been, in every single era, in every single genre. The majority are always stupidier than the minority, that's why they're the minority. True intelligence is fringe; but don't worry about it; create and listen to what you want to, and leave other people do the same.

And this argument that the rappers are brainwashing or defining what people think is retarded in a similar way to claiming GTA makes people want to commit violence, or is the source of the violence. These shitty rappers are a REFLECTION, not the original subject. Just like GTA and violent movies and entertainment are a reflection of society and people's thoughts, not the cause.

These 'tarded rappers are a reflection of 'tarded people with those values, and they only appeal to people with similar values. I grew up in an era with plenty of dumb, aimless music and art yet I wasn't affected by it, I don't agree with or like it and it hasn't 'brainwashed' me; it by definition is only going to appeal to people who are already susceptible to thinking that way. So it's not brainwashing, it's appealing to people who are like that; and not appealing to those who are not.

[SliK]

Hopsin, rappers don't like you.

[CrashBand]

@Embase. Yeah but the people who it appeals to aren't all like that. You're the one generalizing now.

Yes, the majority are stupid. But these rappers aren't are a reflection of stupid people, lmao.

These ideas and beliefs that the rappers promote do have influence on people. You are implying that for the 'brainwashing' or as you put it 'appealing' to have an affect on people, they must already be like that to an extent.

[Man1x]

[Cube23]

I'm sure this will devastate Lil Wayne.

Hopsin is an attention seeking baby. He disses two of the easiest targets because they just aren't technically good rappers (but I've stated my love of Lil B before). I'd like to see him continue to diss Lupe Fiasco or someone that can rap on a similar level. Too bad Lil B and Lil Wayne will never acknowledge Hopsin.

[deaneedog]

I love hopsins music but he's actually quite ignorant and naive. He's starting to get annoying with the whole "I'm trying to be 2012's Jesus" shit.

[Spyder]

sometimes i question blu as an entity...

hop is pretty decent, not on his dick like some others on here.
but obv better than wane or soulja, argue that just go slit your wrists really

[Cube23]

sometimes i question blu as an entity...

hop is pretty decent, not on his dick like some others on here.
but obv better than wane or soulja, argue that just go slit your wrists really

Better than Lil Wayne? Yeah.

Would I rather listen to his music? Most of the time, probably not.

[EminemBase]

@Embase. Yeah but the people who it appeals to aren't all like that. You're the one generalizing now.

No, I'm not generalizing. I'm saying, the music of which Hopsin is referring to is only going to appeal to certain people by definition; which it does. Are you saying it's appealing to everybody or has the potential to 'brainwash' anybody?

People have different intelligence levels, taste, ideals, values; perception of other people, moral standard, background etc. etc. etc. ; now, no 'one' particular combination of any of these things can be said to be 'the' appealing body (although analysis / arguments could be made) but my point is; the lowly of the low kind of rap Hopsin is referring to does NOT appeal to all or 'change' people's taste to liking it. You have to like it, to like it.

Know why I don't listen to it? because I don't like it. Of course you have to be exposed to something to know whether you like it or not, I'm not saying the people are like the rappers in terms of actions or morals (you don't have to agree with art to like it either), I'm saying they were inherently susceptible to liking what they like. You can't choose what you like.

You are implying that for the 'brainwashing' or as you put it 'appealing' to have an affect on people, they must already be like that to an extent.

Of course to like something you have to already be of a similar mind or have something about you that coincides with liking X thing, internally. Taste is a knee-jerk reaction to what you're exposed to: you can consciously re-define and explain and analyze what you like and why, but you can't choose what you like, or what you and your mental build up inherently prefer.

There's reasons certain people like certain things; and it may even be as simple as somebody liking a melody; some people like fast melodies, slow melodies; some people like big, rich, constructed music; some people like very simplistic, broken down, sparse music... but these are internal reactions, not 'choices' of like or 'brainwashing'.

These shitty rappers couldn't 'brainwash' me in to liking them, because I inherently and internally feel a distaste the sound, and the ideas and raps were/are not intelligent or constructed enough to appeal to my natural intellect. That's not my choice, they didn't appeal to me, because they don't, you can't force it. You can't make somebody like something they 'wouldn't' like, makes no sense.

It's not because I consciously chose to fight back against brainwashing. So yes, you do have to like something, to like it. I can't make you like something you don't like, so Hopsin's argument is invalid and redundant; people will like what they like, taste is just a reflection of what sounds or looks favourable to your genetic mental structure; things which tickle your psychological fancy for reasons outside of your, or any shitty rapper on this planet's control.

There is not a brainwashing occurring; only an appealing to a stupid people, which has always and always will happen. American entertainment has in a sense got dumber in many areas; movies, music, all genres and kinds of mainstream representation has been broadened on every level - but again, this is a reflection, as you said. And that reflection is only going to appeal to people who inherently like that, or who are of the same mind or in the right mind to be drawn to, or like it. You can argue about art, you can debate why something is richer, more layered, more intelligent etc. but you can't logically convince somebody to inherently like the sound of something they wouldn't otherwise like or visa versa. That's knee-jerk, that's automatic.

[CrashBand]

Yes people like what they like automatically. Thanks for making that very clear.
But Hopsin isn't annoyed at people for liking shit music. It's the ideals and morals that these artists are promoting that's the problem.

It's like how a bunch of stupid teens like Justin Bieber. Because like you said, he naturally appeals to some people and not to others.

What if his music started having subtle sexist / homophobic connotations. This would now influence / 'brainwash' his fans.

[Man1x]

It's like peer pressure. You go to a party and some people convince you to take alcohol. Okay, maybe you wont do it again (or maybe not at all), but if it's something you like you can get addicted to it. It'll draw you in, and I would hope you'd agree with me that having knowledge of something new, something you've never tried does spark an interests. These rappers do expose a lot of foreign ideas, values, and life styles to children know no better because their minds aren't completely developed. It's easier to influence a younger human because their minds are still under development. An example would be that it's easier to learn a language under the age of twelve, you take in and learn from the things around you. So, if your favorite rapper tells you go smoke a blunt, won't you have an interest to try one?