next 'big' album: kendricks good kid mad city. expectations?

[knockmathers]

Sooo what are your hopes for this album?

My expectation are very high, I hope he still has songs like 'keisha's song' or 'faith'

Mos Def should be on the album!

a 'HiiiPower' song with Hopsin would be awesome!

gotta feeling Eminem will be on the album, but I could be wrong...

Also wouldn't mind if Lupe Fiasco would be on the album.

so what are your expectations and who do you want to be on the album?

[Almostlity]

FUCK hopsin. He doesn't deserve to be on this album.

[Blu]

Why is EVERYONE about Hopsin? He makes one song down-talking teenagers that smoke weed and get laid and all off a sudden he's some miracle preacher sent from the Heavens? Get the fuck outta here.

[LIL_B]

Why is EVERYONE about Hopsin? He makes one song down-talking teenagers that smoke weed and get laid and all off a sudden he's some miracle preacher sent from the Heavens? Get the fuck outta here.

co-sign my boi

[knockmathers]

Why is EVERYONE about Hopsin? He makes one song down-talking teenagers that smoke weed and get laid and all off a sudden he's some miracle preacher sent from the Heavens? Get the fuck outta here.

I've been a fan of him since 2008, so I know him for a pretty long time, he never dissapointed me yet and he is getting popular really fast plus it's fun to see him getting big because I know him from the start.. Now he hasn't always been the preaching kind of guy, because IMOH5 is getting this big of a buzz he is doing the preaching more because he thinks this will make him famous.. and I agree with most fans that it's getting pretty annoying because he knows everything better.. But I still have faith in him and I think he has every right to be on kendrick's album.. would be a great match those 2.. the 2 biggest upcomming rappers in my opinion

also the album has 1 month and a couple of days to go so why couldn't eminem fit in there? that's bullshit in my opinion.. And who knows there's already a song on it, kendrick knows dre for a couple of months now so it's possible..

[knockmathers]

^ only your middle text made sense.. but you are right, kendrick choses only people who really fit in, but he also has the ability to make every song good if the feature has skill too ofcourse, no matter which kind of artist it is.. Maybe I want to see a hopsin feat kendrick lamar a bit too much..

[Man1x]

He already confirmed Eminem won't be on this album but said it'll happen. Hopsin will NOT be on it, and Lupe Fiasco says he wants to sit back and watch Kendrick Lamar's career as a fan before he collaborates with him. K.Dot also said he's not featuring many people, so just expect these to be the features: Black Hippy (Kendrick Lamar, Ab-Soul, Schoolboy Q, and Jay Rock), Dr. Dre, Lady Gaga, Punch (possibly), and T.D.E. affiliates (Jhene Aiko, Ashtrobot, & BJ the Chicago Kid) on some hooks and background vocals. Anyway, shit's going to be fucking amazing.

[Kill You]

Hopsin would NEVER fit on a Kendrick album...two completely different styles. It would be Kendrick talking about hoes and drinking and Hopsin would talk about how stupid hoes and drinking are...wouldn't make much sense to me.

[Man1x]

Kendrick doesn't talk about hoes and drinking. Seems like you only heard one Kendrick Lamar song and then only got half of the message.

[Kill You]

Kendrick doesn't talk about hoes and drinking. Seems like you only heard one Kendrick Lamar song and then only got half of the message.

I was half-kidding about that lmao. I have DEFINITELY heard more than one Kendrick song. I'm implying that this album might have some dumbed down lyrics since it's his first major...but I was exaggerating by saying he'll just rap about hoes and drinking lol. It's like when people say Eminem only raps about his dick, it's obviously not true but many people say it to be funny or whatever. I wanted to show how different the two of them are by that comment.

[Man1x]

Also, so far he hasn't had any dumbed down lyrics or showed signs of going in that direction. But, yeah...Hopsin's a big NO.

[AbramIsaac]

Why is EVERYONE about Hopsin? He makes one song down-talking teenagers that smoke weed and get laid and all off a sudden he's some miracle preacher sent from the Heavens? Get the fuck outta here.

As far as this forum is concerned, I think Ill Mind 5 had the opposite effect. The enthusiasm behind him here isn't any higher than before, and for some people, it may even have cooled a little. Hop has his stans though, and there are a few here.

Personally, I think Hopsin has the type of content now to fit in on a Kendrick track, but I'm not sure he has the intelligence. He's not stupid, and his wit is self-evident, but Kendrick makes a lot of historical and cultural references. Hopsin just isn't that type of rapper, and that's perfectly fine, but that should be enough to keep him off a Kendrick album in my eyes.

In all honesty though, on the topic of over-zealousness in regards to praising an up and coming artist, I can't help but feel like some people have gotten caught up in the hype over Kendrick Lamar. Don't get me wrong, he's a breath of fresh air in many ways, and he definitely brings a certain level of artistry to hip hop that hasn't been seen in a newcomer for a long time...but I can't help but feel disenchanted when I hear him talk about pussy and weed. I've only gone through Section .80 a time or two, but I wasn't as impressed with it as I thought I would be.

I plan on giving him a few more listens, but I'm starting to think that his stuff just isn't for me. I like him more than Q, with whom I've been quite disappointed with up to now. Maybe "Hands on the Wheel" just soured my view of him, but it seem like everyone has rose-tinted glasses on when looking at Black Hippy. While they do the type of music they do better than almost anyone out, it seems like they only sprinkle intellect and truth among moments of the same low brow bullshit that west coast rap music has been bringing us since the beginning.

So I'm sure Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City will be a great rap album, with moments of startling clarity and gritty reality. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that despite these encouraging aspects, this album will do little to advance the art form far beyond its roots.

[momentsgolden]

So I'm sure Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City will be a great rap album, with moments of startling clarity and gritty reality. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that despite these encouraging aspects, this album will do little to advance the art form far beyond its roots.

Actually, and this is completely opposed ideologically to what you stated, if Good Kid, m.A.A.d city does not advance the culture, nothing ever will. Its just plain truth. I mean, lets look at the last couple of years and people who were supposed to advance the culture (in the mainstream at least)
Lupe- got caught up in lasers. Lost the aura. Lost a large fanbase.
J Cole- the fad faded. Overhyped.
Jay Electronica- decided to hibernate. Currently hated for Ghostwriting for Nas (that will be a difficult one to shake off especially considering how private a life he leads).
B.o.b- Strange Clouds, enough said.
Slaughterhouse- well, that was sad.

There is a whole new wave of new Emcees, Yelawolf, Big Krit, Action Bronson, Hopsin, Schoolboy Q, Wale etc etc.

Of this new wave of Emcees, the record labels do not know how to market them and what direction to take. Yes, "making a song for the club" is the current format but that has been receiving such a bad rep that they need a new direction to go. That is where Kendrick Lamar comes in. He will define the new balance of talent and commercial success. Every rapper/ Dj/ Journalist/ fan wants kendrick to succeed and more importantly to make good music. If (and i pray to God he does) he succeeds in doing so and doing it right, then HE will define the trend for the next couple of years. He already has 3 people (the rest of black hippy) rewriting entire ALBUMS, not songs or verses, ALBUMS because he is the standard they adhere to.

So, on a surface level Kendrick will provide balance on the radio and have people have something to listen to. That in itself would be important. (In the same way Nas currently does to a less extent). Secondly, he will inspire those around him to do the same (Lupe, Black Hippy, J Cole, Big Krit, Lecrae) to use that format for success. And... this is pushing it now but w/e... he could then influence the veterans themselves to a new standard of good. Eminem did it (Dre), Kanye did it (Jay), Drake did it (Lil Wayne). If he is commercially successful and critically acclaimed, even Detox will be a product of Kendrick just as much as Chronic was of Eminem.

Look at all the albums this year- only Cruel Summer, Lupe's album, Nas's album and maybe T.I's album are Grammy album shoe-ins. Kendrick has a window of opportunity and i am HOPING he takes it.

[knockmathers]

^ you saying kendrick is our last hope? lol..

[Fiftys_Advocate]

I hope I will hear a solo KENDRICK LAMAR album, Kendrick and nobody else. Fuck features.

Every time I just hear "xxx song with xxx about xxx would be great", I stop reading. Don´t like that approach.