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Postby Emshady2 » Mar 30th, '13, 00:37

Kendrick Lamar often delivers whatever it is on his albums , features or freestyles... GKMC is considered a classic already... So if his second album is even better, will he be among the hip hop greatest?

I know it is early , but Biggie dropped 2 albums and is among the greatest, so why wouldn't kendrick?

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Re: Will Kendrick Lamar be a Hip hop legend after ...

Postby Rattle1 » Mar 30th, '13, 01:02

If he drops other great albums then yes, I'll consider Kendrick as another legend like Tupac, Big, Eminem, Nas, Jay and so on.

With his last album and section 80, I think he is now playing in the big leagues but a discography of 1/2 albums isn't enough to become a "legend".
He sells, people love him, critics love him, the hip hop artists love him it, it's all good for him but it's still too early to talk about him as a goat tbfh
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Re: Will Kendrick Lamar be a Hip hop legend after ...

Postby King Lance » Mar 30th, '13, 01:09

a hip hop legend like Eminem, 50 cent etc ?

I am a fan but as you said, it's early and I think that he has to be a consistent rapper and release another great album if he wants to be considered as a legend like the other big artists.

Some artists were acclaimed like Kendrick in the past but if kendrick wants to become more than a new great rapper, he needs to have the longevity & consistency that these artists didn't have :y:
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Re: Will Kendrick Lamar be a Hip hop legend after ...

Postby Atone » Mar 30th, '13, 01:20

Biggie is not one of the greatest, neither is 2pac, they were good, but because they died, people over-rate them, they would do the same thing with Lil Wayne, and if 50 Cent died tomorrow ppl would be calling him a legend, and one of the greatest within a month,

I'm not deying pac and biggie were good, but there have been better, and there have been better that have been ignored,
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Re: Will Kendrick Lamar be a Hip hop legend after ...

Postby Rattle1 » Mar 30th, '13, 01:25

Atone wrote:Biggie is not one of the greatest, neither is 2pac, they were good, but because they died, people over-rate them, they would do the same thing with Lil Wayne, and if 50 Cent died tomorrow ppl would be calling him a legend, and one of the greatest within a month,

I'm not deying pac and biggie were good, but there have been better, and there have been better that have been ignored,


I think he was talking about these iconic rappers: Eminem, Tupac, Big, Kanye West, Hov, Nas, Ice Cube
Biggie and Tupac were great, they influenced hip hop in general
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Re: Will Kendrick Lamar be a Hip hop legend after ...

Postby the real slim shady » Mar 30th, '13, 01:30

Possible, Dre and everyone else sure are pushing for people to think he is a Legend. Dont see him (or many other people) reaching Tupac or Biggie levels of legend though, unless maybe Em or Nas were killed because of their music no-one will be joining that rank.
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Re: Will Kendrick Lamar be a Hip hop legend after ...

Postby Trimss » Mar 30th, '13, 01:36

He has to break boundaries like Jay, Kanye or Eminem. I can see him doing that though.
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Re: Will Kendrick Lamar be a Hip hop legend after ...

Postby the real slim shady » Mar 30th, '13, 01:39

I cant tbh, some of the tracks by Nas or Eminem wont be passed. All stannery aside, can you honestly see Kendrick doing a song that is globally considered better than Sing for the Moment, Stan, One Mic... ? Songs like that, ones that are classics just wont be beaten.

Not sure why you put Kanye as a boundary there either, he is good but there are far better examples.
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Re: Will Kendrick Lamar be a Hip hop legend after ...

Postby Rattle1 » Mar 30th, '13, 01:43

the real slim shady wrote:I cant tbh, some of the tracks by Nas or Eminem wont be passed. All stannery aside, can you honestly see Kendrick doing a song that is globally considered better than Sing for the Moment, Stan, One Mic... ? Songs like that, ones that are classics just wont be beaten.

Not sure why you put Kanye as a boundary there either, he is good but there are far better examples.


Another good point but some people already think that songs like Hiiipower, The art of the peer pressure were on some classic levels and his album is having a big impact right now.

As for Kanye, some of his albums are considered as some of the best albums in general but everybody knows that Eminem is in another league.
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Re: Will Kendrick Lamar be a Hip hop legend after ...

Postby the real slim shady » Mar 30th, '13, 01:47

Rattle1 wrote:
the real slim shady wrote:I cant tbh, some of the tracks by Nas or Eminem wont be passed. All stannery aside, can you honestly see Kendrick doing a song that is globally considered better than Sing for the Moment, Stan, One Mic... ? Songs like that, ones that are classics just wont be beaten.

Not sure why you put Kanye as a boundary there either, he is good but there are far better examples.


Another good point but some people already think that songs like Hiiipower, The art of the peer pressure were on some classic levels and his album is having a big impact right now.

As for Kanye, some of his albums are considered as some of the best albums in general

Youre honestly telling me that the majority of people concerned will think Hiiipower > Stan?

I think Eminem's name in history is pretty firm now, the fact that his fans are so passionate is what will stop people from forgetting about those tracks. Same goes for several other artists, and as of yet i dont think Kendrick is in that category.



Kanye is dope for sure but he isnt considered one of the hip-hop greats in general. People listen to the music and will remember him but would you put him next to biggie? No, hopefully not. Now Nas and Jay-Z alongside Tupac and Biggie? That sounds a bit better.
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Re: Will Kendrick Lamar be a Hip hop legend after ...

Postby Rattle1 » Mar 30th, '13, 01:52

the real slim shady wrote:
Rattle1 wrote:
the real slim shady wrote:I cant tbh, some of the tracks by Nas or Eminem wont be passed. All stannery aside, can you honestly see Kendrick doing a song that is globally considered better than Sing for the Moment, Stan, One Mic... ? Songs like that, ones that are classics just wont be beaten.

Not sure why you put Kanye as a boundary there either, he is good but there are far better examples.


Another good point but some people already think that songs like Hiiipower, The art of the peer pressure were on some classic levels and his album is having a big impact right now.

As for Kanye, some of his albums are considered as some of the best albums in general

Youre honestly telling me that the majority of people concerned will think Hiiipower > Stan?

I think Eminem's name in history is pretty firm now, the fact that his fans are so passionate is what will stop people from forgetting about those tracks. Same goes for several other artists, and as of yet i dont think Kendrick is in that category.


lol no I wasn't trying to compare Eminem and Kendrick because as I said, Eminem is in another category.
You can't even compare 50 cent or kanye to Eminem but these artists are still iconic.
Right now, Kendrick is just a new great artist but as some people said, he can become an another icon if he can drop other great albums.

Kanye transcends the genre, TCD is globally considered as one of the best debut albums and MBDTF is globally considered as a master piece
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Re: Will Kendrick Lamar be a Hip hop legend after ...

Postby SliK » Mar 30th, '13, 01:55

Kanye is the most consistent rapper of all time. He has had 5 amazing albums in a row. Eminem hasn't. Jay hasn't. Nas certainly hasn't. Kanye has done a lot for hip hop. MBDTF literally appealed to so many people and got so many people into hop hop. Everyone I knew was bumping that album. Literally everyone. I was having this discussion with EminemBase a long time ago. At the time I said it had a bigger impact in my area than MMLP as far as thrusting rap into the spotlight. Obviously global MMLP had a bigger impact but there is no denying the impact MBDTF had. Much bigger than GKMC for sure. At least internationally.
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Re: Will Kendrick Lamar be a Hip hop legend after ...

Postby Rattle1 » Mar 30th, '13, 02:00

SliK wrote:Kanye is the most consistent rapper of all time. He has had 5 amazing albums in a row. Eminem hasn't. Jay hasn't. Nas certainly hasn't. Kanye has done a lot for hip hop. MBDTF literally appealed to so many people and got so many people into hop hop. Everyone I knew was bumping that album. Literally everyone. I was having this discussion with EminemBase a long time ago. At the time I said it had a bigger impact in my area than MMLP as far as thrusting rap into the spotlight. Obviously global MMLP had a bigger impact but there is no denying the impact MBDTF had. Much bigger than GKMC for sure. At least internationally.


Exactly, GKMC is having a major impact on hip hop right now, it's influencing new rappers but MBDTF literally transcends the genre, it's probably the album that had the biggest impact these last years.
I like to think that the hip hop album that had the biggest impact from 2010 to now is MBDTF and then it's GKMC
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Re: Will Kendrick Lamar be a Hip hop legend after ...

Postby the real slim shady » Mar 30th, '13, 02:02

Well yes, all depends on what he does on his next few abums. There are so many artists around now that i think its getting harder for anyone to reach that top tier, so much competition from all the sub-sections of rap.

SliK wrote:Lange is the most consistent rapper of all time. He has had 5 amazing albums in a row. Eminem hasn't. Jay hasn't. Nas certainly hasn't. Kanye has done a lot for hip hop. MBDTF literally appealed to so many people and got so many people into hop hop. Everyone I knew was bumping that album. Literally everyone. I was having this discussion with EminemBase a long time ago. At the time I said it had a bigger impact in my area than MMLP as far as thrusting rap into the spotlight. Obviously global MMLP had a bigger impact but there is no denying the impact MBDTF had. Much bigger than GKMC for sure. At least internationally.

When it comes to influence, Eminem > Kanye and personally i dont see that changing. How good the music is.. thats another point, all to do with opinion but as much as i dont want to seem like a stan, Kanye cant really but put on a level with Eminem. There arent enough people outside of hip-hop that pay him any real attention, I mean everyone has heard certain tracks from Em like Lose Yourself and sadly Love The Way You Lie, but i hardly know anyone who listens to any Kanye. Thats just from my perpesctive, but still. Em has more of a global influence, maybe partly due to being white so people can relate to him, but mainly because he has several tracks that stand out and have a listenership from every type of music.
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Re: Will Kendrick Lamar be a Hip hop legend after ...

Postby BigBoss » Mar 30th, '13, 02:28

I think HiiiPower > Stan
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