Dreams?

[TripleNineThree]

What do you guys think about dreams? Is there any such thing as a cognitive dream? Are there any dreams that are a message from a Higher Power? Or do you believe that it's simply a chemical reaction in your mind?

I'm interested in what you guys think!

[Elision]

Dreams are a DMT trip produced by your brain. And it is necessary towards your brains health and survival.

You are unable to learn any brand new information from dreams, since they are completely produced by your own brain, and what it already knows. However, keep in mind that this does not restrain you from creating situations and patterns where you're able to connect things you already know in a way that you haven't yet done in this reality, and thus walking away with not necessarily gained, but rearranged information. There's a word for this but I can't seem to remember it at the moment

You cannot travel forward in time regardless of your reality, due to the fact that if time already exists ahead of us, we wouldn't have any use for it in the first place. We are always on the very edge of as-far-forward as we can be. Since we as the observers are the only reason it exists to begin with. And in a way we are the generators of it due to that. Think of us as Frozone from The Incredibles. The way he travels, i mean.

But yes, it is a chemical-induced DMT trip and nothing more. Your body also pumps out a super amount of DMT when it is in the final stages of death. This is what causes people to believe that a god was trying to pull them into "the light" or whatever during near-death experiences. Nope, just an absolute overflow of the most potent psychedelic known to man


EDIT: But I want to add that this in my opinion is much much more interesting than the subject of dreams. Just think about the fact that your brain has this natural chemical it produces, that has no other use but to give your brain an exercise whilst sleeping, and to take your mind away from your own death (assuming you die via bodily shut-down, as opposed to instantly, in which case it obviously wouldn't be useful anyway).

And not only that, but this natural chemical that is produced by almost every living thing is illegal. Just like almost every other natural psychedelic such as marijuana. Even though there are exactly 0 corpses to show for them.


EDIT 2: You can buy DMT-extraction kits, and extract it from grass or whatever. And enter a dreamstate head-on and 100% consciously. It's basically an earthly shortcut to a semi-lucid dream.

[TripleNineThree]

Man.. You know your stuff

That's really interesting

[ShAdYTiLIDie]

Man elision very interesting post, that's cool I am going to have to try to extract sme dmt it's not fatal or anything right? Very cool thanks for posting

[Elision]

No it is not =]

Human beings have been participating in the ingestion of natural psychedelics for thousands and thousands of years. It has been a vital part of our mental evolution up to this point.

It is only very recent that these earth-given chemicals have been banned. Even though they were here long before us, and they're going to be here long after we're gone. Government is literally forcing us into a mental lockdown. And if we choose to go against these artificial brain restraints, we get locked in a cage. We basically live in a sophisticated Rome.

What (I think) we need, is a city and/or state-voted Shaman from and for each city/state. And this man is payed by our tax dollars to properly distribute psychedelics to those who need it. Drug addicts and alcoholics, necessary prisoners, and even people who are just having a hard time. It's a guy who is licensed and has intimate training and knowledge of every chemical he distributes, so you don't have to risk harming yourself by purchasing from some shady dealer who may or may not know how to properly handle and distribute these things.

Because, and I know this may sound crazy, but once you go through something like DMT, your views on the life once the 2 minute-or-so experience is over, is extremely broadened. Because it completely sucks you out of this reality, allowing you to really see it all for what it truly is. It lets you see the hands that are shaking the snow globe in which you live in. Hence why it almost immediately cures crack addiction and such.

Now how fucking amazing is it, that planet earth gave us these experiences? This isn't something that was made in a factory by us. These are completely necessary towards us progressing mentally. Imagine if Obama and everyone in congress sat down for 5 minutes and had one solid DMT/LSD experience. We are the only part of the human tree that isn't participating in these natural psychedelics as a whole. No shit everything's all fucked, everybody is missing a massive portion of the human experience. Like completely avoiding a certain food group your whole life. Eventually your body is going to act up due to that.

All of our brains have the capability of entering, observing, exploring and ultimately remembering completely separate realities from this one. In fact, you do this every single night when you dream. Only a few ever actually get to see the limits. And we live in a society where that's actually frowned upon for some reason. It's like being given a Ferrari and never driving it over 35MPH.



EDIT: I'd also like to add that I'm not avoiding mentioning shrooms as a natural psychedelic, because they are. But the effect they give is just the plants defense mechanism so deer and other animals don't eat them. So I don't put them into the same category. And it's very easy to mistake psychedelic mushrooms for very very toxic ones. So just make sure that if you choose to participate in shrooms, you do so safely and responsibly.

[ShAdYTiLIDie]

Wow dude very informative, so basically there's no way in this country to get dmt? Also does marijuana contain dmt? I'm confused on how tou would get a dmt trip, lol I smoke regularly and never get a trip like that! Ha but I'll definitely be doing some real research when I get a computer! Thanks for all te info ellision

[Elision]

No, no, you can get your hands on it fairly easily. It's just not legal.

And you're thinking of THC in marijuana. Totally different compound
But you smoke it the same way you would smoke salvia. From a bong/pipe of your choice.

[ShAdYTiLIDie]

Lol that is very fascinating, I'm really going to try and get my hands on some of that stuff. Dreaming has always amazed me, just wish I would have researched it a lot sooner than this! Awesome thread props!

[AbramIsaac]

I wouldn't recommend doing DMT unless you're already very experienced with other psychedelics.

Regardless of whether or not is produced naturally in the body, it can be incredibly intense, and it's not to be taken lightly. While it could be compared to entering into a dream, it could also be compared to dying. Some people can handle it, others can't, but most agree that it's not something to do if you've never done a psychedelic drug before.

When it goes good, it goes really good. When it goes bad...well, you get the picture. Heaven and Hell, my friends...Heaven and Hell.

@Elision, I'm not taking shots at you, but I think that caution needs to be emphasized above all when it comes to psychedelics, especially THE psychedelic. Tryptamines can be very harsh on the psyche if you don't know how to handle them, and it doesn't get much crazier than Dimetheltrypamine.

[Elision]

Well yeah, I thought I was pretty clear about that factor. Obviously any crazy trip is going to have an effect, but that's the point of the whole thing. And regardless of your trip, you will 100% of the time come out on the other side with something new.

But I mean, it's like anything else. Like owning a vehicle. Be safe, be responsible, and know what you're doing ahead of time. Be an adult.

[AbramIsaac]

Were you? Maybe I missed that part, where you emphasized the potential down-side of a trip that DMT can bring on.

Because, it's important to mention that strong psychedelics can and do give some people adverse effects that last for life. Like flashbacks, which take away your ability to determine your set and setting that you would have if you were going to trip normally. Or persisting hallucinations, that never truly go away. Ever.

Look, I'm all about the responsible use of psychedelic drugs, and drugs in general. Psychedelics can indeed help many different people. But waxing poetically about the risks associated with them to people that don't seem to know much about them is irresponsible on your part, just as it's irresponsible on their part not to do their own research beforehand.

I wouldn't recommend DMT to someone that hasn't done a true psychedelic before, I'm sorry. You only have to look at the bad trip reports on Erowid to see why. It's heavenly when it goes right, and for many it goes perfectly fine. When it goes badly though, it's hellish like nothing else you could put yourself through. Sometimes that "something new" you come out the other side with is a recurring nightmare you have every night for weeks at a time after the trip. Or maybe it's anxiety that presents itself every time you smoke weed, making it impossible to enjoy anymore.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but if you're going to talk about the good things, someone needs to talk about the bad as well. We can't expect everyone to do the research you and I did before we went on our trips, can we?

[limea]

AI looking like EminemBase in here.

Yet in the Vet Thread he looks like a depressing mole.

He actually is EminemBase's alt, he admitted it in another thread.

[AbramIsaac]

Got that codeine flowing bitches...EmBase becomes AI, just like that.

And fuck Geno...fucking twat.

[TripleNineThree]

Out of curiosity, do you any of you guys practice Lucid Dreaming on a regular basis?

[ShAdYTiLIDie]

Of course most people who have done any drugs that are not marijuana know to take it easy for at least the first time and work your way up,
Whatdrugs are psychedelics?? And which of them is safest?? I know I could look this up but I don't have a computer all weekend so you guys r my google lol,