1. if you did it with no feelings there would be NO green light
2. sure my doubts don't matter but think about it to do a curse you have to fully concentrate on it...you can't concentrate on 2 things at once
3. and this time snape's helping dumby by killing him cause it was planned and snape had to either do the vow or risk his spy position
4. voldey would know cause if dumby was up and alive at hogwarts or anywhere voldey would know about it one way or another
here's the chatty me and logie had i doubt anyone would bother reading it though
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:24:01 PM): wow, dumbledoor is alive =/
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:24:08 PM): o.0
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:24:12 PM): i say he's dead
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:24:33 PM):
http://www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com/dumbledoreclues.html
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:24:46 PM): he's dead
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:24:49 PM): snape killed him
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:24:54 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:25:13 PM): Read
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:25:21 PM): too much
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:26:20 PM): 1,3,4,5,8
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:26:24 PM): Read those at least
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:26:46 PM): Why did Dumbledore freeze Harry? Harry was already invisible to their attackers and in no danger.
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:26:53 PM): i got an explanation to that
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:26:58 PM): ?
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:27:02 PM): cause if harry wasn't frozen
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:27:11 PM): he would've attacted the death eaters
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:27:28 PM): and he could've died/severely injured
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:27:29 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:27:31 PM): So, he froze harry before hand, he knew it was coming
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:27:37 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:27:37 PM): noooo
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:27:46 PM): he knew harry would overreact
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:27:48 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:27:53 PM): that's the word it hink
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:27:55 PM): i think
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:28:16 PM): Dumbledoor could take them... He planned to die
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:28:21 PM): =/
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:28:27 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:28:37 PM): well he had to die
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:28:39 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:28:42 PM): whatever just read the rest
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:28:43 PM): cause of that bond
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:28:44 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:28:51 PM): snape had to prove his loyalty
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:28:52 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:29:03 PM): I'm gonna put tthis in serious debate in TR
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:29:06 PM): =/
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:29:49 PM):
Hunneh Buns (8/7/2006 2:29:57 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:30:04 PM): you're making me want to reread the book
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:30:22 PM): that'll take up like 2 days
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:30:28 PM): Read 8 resl quick
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:30:29 PM): or 1
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:31:12 PM): i don't get it
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:31:22 PM): wait nvm
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:31:38 PM): They never saw the body at the funeral
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:31:43 PM): well it's covered cause the person's DEAD
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:31:46 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:31:51 PM): why do people overthink things
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:31:52 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:32:03 PM): just accept the fact that dumbledore's dead and snape's good
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:32:04 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:32:07 PM): So, they always show bodys at funerals
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:32:16 PM): well this is jk rowling's world
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:32:19 PM): not reality
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:32:20 PM):
Manny 562 (8/7/2006 2:32:49 PM): lol
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:33:22 PM): read 5
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:33:34 PM): that's the one i don't get
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:33:35 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:33:51 PM): The point is theres an ass load of clues! And we KNOW rowling loves to foreshadow
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:34:03 PM): coincidence?
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:34:05 PM): No
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:34:08 PM): yes
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:34:09 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:34:14 PM): idk
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:34:18 PM): i don't examine books
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:34:20 PM): i just read em
Hunneh Buns (8/7/2006 2:34:24 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:34:34 PM): i'm not that nerdy
Manny 562 (8/7/2006 2:34:34 PM): lol
Hunneh Buns (8/7/2006 2:34:40 PM): He's nerdy
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:34:42 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:34:46 PM): Well then just stop debating. Dumby lives
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:34:50 PM): no he doesn't
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:34:52 PM): he's dead
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:35:05 PM): cause snape had to fulfill the vow
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:35:08 PM): or else he would've died
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:35:09 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:35:18 PM): derrrr
Hunneh Buns (8/7/2006 2:35:22 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:35:29 PM): I thought you just said he was good
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:35:32 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:35:33 PM): o
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:35:33 PM): nvm
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:35:33 PM): he is
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:35:39 PM): Still, read 5
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:35:41 PM): but he was forced to take the vow to prove his loyalty
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:35:47 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:35:51 PM): I said nvm
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:35:55 PM): i know
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:36:02 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:36:06 PM): explain 5
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:36:10 PM): i don't get it
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:36:40 PM): i think i do
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:37:05 PM): he can mean it
Manny 562 (8/7/2006 2:37:08 PM): omg sum1 bought the green uni thingy
Hunneh Buns (8/7/2006 2:37:14 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:37:14 PM):
Manny 562 (8/7/2006 2:37:15 PM):
Hunneh Buns (8/7/2006 2:37:21 PM): How much did you sell it for?
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:37:26 PM): logan respond
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:37:28 PM): The book said a lot of stuff about silent curses right? So, Snape coulda SAID avade ccdiofjfg or whatever lol but he didnt mean it, and you need to for those curses... So he said avadedfsdgsdfgh but meant somthing else, so it APPEARED he died, but didnt
Manny 562 (8/7/2006 2:37:30 PM): 10k
Manny 562 (8/7/2006 2:37:43 PM): i think
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:37:48 PM): i doubt you can use 2 curses at once
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:37:59 PM): he didnt use avadeafhjfghjkfg
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:38:02 PM): He only said it
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:38:02 PM): cause there was a green light
Manny 562 (8/7/2006 2:38:09 PM): o.O
Hunneh Buns (8/7/2006 2:38:16 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:38:19 PM): Maybe
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:38:19 PM): He
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:38:21 PM): used
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:38:22 PM): he's dead
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:38:25 PM): JUST ACCEPT IT
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:38:27 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:38:51 PM): overexamining things just kinda spoils the surprises for the next book
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:38:55 PM):
Manny 562 (8/7/2006 2:38:55 PM): hey can u check who bought it?
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:39:01 PM): go to sales history
Manny 562 (8/7/2006 2:39:13 PM): oh
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:39:17 PM): a curse tht temp. knocked him dead, and the WHOLE chapter with fawkes it was crying and flying near dumbys death.. He was doing something, and we kno phoenix have baller ass healin powers
Hunneh Buns (8/7/2006 2:39:21 PM): Who bought it
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:39:29 PM): lmao
Manny 562 (8/7/2006 2:39:38 PM): naruto_2k4
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:39:40 PM): fawkes was next to dumbledore when he died?
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:39:52 PM): He was flying near the body the entire time
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:39:54 PM): =/
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:39:56 PM): crying
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:40:04 PM): Sarunade(sp?)ing him
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:40:07 PM): i don't think it can bring back the dead
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:40:08 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:40:14 PM): Temp. death
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:40:16 PM): lol
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:40:16 PM): sure it can heal severely injured people
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:40:19 PM): but dead people?
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:40:26 PM): i doubt it
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:40:36 PM): Its just too much shit to over look
Manny 562 (8/7/2006 2:40:36 PM): u guys are smart ppl
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:40:38 PM): He lives
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:40:42 PM): he's dead
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:40:59 PM): I'm willing to bet 200 bucks he lives next book
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:41:02 PM): well there are things to prove that's snape's on voldemort's side
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:41:43 PM): so who gives a shit about him
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:41:46 PM): Dumby lives
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:41:49 PM): he's DEAD
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:41:57 PM): 200 buck bet?
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:42:02 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:42:02 PM): i'm broke
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:42:07 PM): 100?
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:42:15 PM): i don't wanna bet
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:42:21 PM): Cuz u already know
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:42:25 PM): i'm like 100% positive
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:42:28 PM): not
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:42:38 PM): How about
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:42:40 PM): there's a chance he might be a live but i doubt it
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:42:40 PM): If I'm right
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:42:43 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:42:51 PM): You get butt naked on cam for me
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:42:54 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:42:55 PM): NO
Manny 562 (8/7/2006 2:42:58 PM): lmao
Manny 562 (8/7/2006 2:43:05 PM): she'll do that for free
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:43:10 PM): sureee.......
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:43:13 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:43:19 PM): i'll bet 10
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:43:24 PM): or 20
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:43:40 PM): First, do unbreakable vows have a time limit? It's unlikely they do, because you'd think it would have to be stated when the vow was made, and no such time limit was set.
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:43:42 PM): Owned?
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:43:46 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:43:52 PM): there is no time limit
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:43:57 PM): Exactley
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:44:00 PM): you either fulfill it or you die
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:44:00 PM): :win:
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:44:07 PM): And?
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:44:12 PM): and what
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:44:13 PM): So Snape hasn''t yet
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:44:17 PM): he fulfilled it
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:44:19 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:44:40 PM): We don't know that, for all we know, those thoerys are right
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:44:51 PM): cause if dumbledore was "severely injured" that wouldn't be fulfilling it
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:44:52 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:44:53 PM): Theres no way to know he didnt cuz it has no time limit
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:45:02 PM): EXACTLEY STUPID
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:45:04 PM): Damn
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:45:05 PM): lol
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:45:08 PM): what?
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:45:19 PM): i'm saying snape fulfilled it by KILLING dumby
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:45:25 PM): so it means he's DEAD
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:45:32 PM): duhhhhhhh
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:45:39 PM): BUT we wouldnt know he didnt cuz theres no time limit on a vow
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:45:46 PM): See?
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:45:51 PM): Der der der
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:46:11 PM): but you either do it or you don't
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:46:12 PM):
Hunneh Buns (8/7/2006 2:46:15 PM): According to listening you guys arguing I believe Munchie is right...
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:46:18 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:46:29 PM): Ya but he has forever to do it
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:46:30 PM): "Hey! You didn't fulfill your promise! You're dead!" "No wait! I just haven't gotten around to it, you can't kill me yet!"
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:46:37 PM): See
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:46:43 PM): Get it?
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:46:48 PM): well there's a loop hole somewehre
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:46:48 PM): Got it?
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:46:49 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:46:50 PM): Good
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:46:59 PM): that would be gay then
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:47:07 PM): Exactley
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:47:17 PM): narcissa wouldn't be that stupid
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:47:27 PM): They were in the book
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:47:30 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:47:38 PM): who was
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:47:53 PM): Whoever made him agree to the vowel never set a time
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:47:57 PM): Iuno the name
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:48:02 PM): ok let's say the vow had no time limit......what if voldemort had a time limit huh?
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:48:13 PM): The vowel didnt
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:48:18 PM): =/
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:48:27 PM): And for all Voldey knows, he is dead
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:48:41 PM): so but narcissa made snape take the vow to save draco
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:48:56 PM): and if snape didn't fulfill it draco would most likely be dead cause of voldemort
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:48:57 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:48:59 PM): He is saved .-.
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:49:09 PM): snape runs away with draco
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:49:11 PM): how's that saving
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:49:12 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:49:29 PM): they'd have to return or snape would risk his spy position
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:49:33 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:49:39 PM): i feel smart
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:50:01 PM): and didn't harry like set out on a journey at the end of the book?
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:50:05 PM): Shit I forget about draco. Fill me in
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:50:15 PM): What was tht
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:50:16 PM): it'd be weird of dumbledore came back out of no where that'd be weird
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:50:32 PM): Rowling is known to do some wierd shit
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:50:32 PM): what about draco
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:50:48 PM): Dracos part of the vowel or whatever u was just sayin
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:51:05 PM): draco was supposed to kill dumbledore not snape
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:51:15 PM): o
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:51:15 PM): but narcissa make snape take it cause she knew draco couldn't do it
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:51:17 PM): So?
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:51:22 PM): So?
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:51:24 PM): what do you mean so
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:51:28 PM): =/
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:51:31 PM): Why is that important
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:51:38 PM): why is what lmao
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:51:53 PM): -_______________________________________________________________-;
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:51:54 PM): lol
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:51:57 PM): let's just say dumbledore's dead
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:51:59 PM): and leave it at that
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:52:00 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:52:00 PM): No
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:52:09 PM): he's DEAD just accept the fact
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:52:10 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:52:12 PM): No
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:52:14 PM): Bet me
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:52:17 PM): i did
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:52:20 PM): i said 10 or 20
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:52:21 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:52:24 PM): i'm not that rich
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:52:24 PM): Ok
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:52:31 PM): so 10 or 20?
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:52:31 PM): 30, got it
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:52:33 PM): wtf
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:52:36 PM): =D
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:52:37 PM): lol
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:52:42 PM): i'm broke
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:52:46 PM): fine 40....
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:52:48 PM): .........
Hunneh Buns (8/7/2006 2:52:52 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:52:56 PM): You have a year to get it
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:52:57 PM): dang
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:52:58 PM): lol
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:53:12 PM): i'm not gonna put 40 dollars aside just for a bet
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:53:13 PM):
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:53:18 PM): Fine
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:53:19 PM): 20
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:53:22 PM): k
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:53:28 PM): kk
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:53:34 PM): just remember
Hunneh Buns (8/7/2006 2:53:43 PM): And i'm a witness
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:53:48 PM): k
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:53:53 PM): kk
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:54:16 PM): rowling wouldn't make dumbldore live
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:54:23 PM): harry has to do this on his own
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:54:24 PM): Yes she would
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:54:30 PM): not depend on dumby
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:54:31 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:54:39 PM): he's in the prophecy not dumby
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:55:18 PM): i might read the 6th book again later today
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:55:59 PM): So, Dumbllley is cool n ppl love him
LOGANN LOLOLOL (8/7/2006 2:56:00 PM): lol
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:56:05 PM): i don't
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:56:17 PM): everything he says takes me forever to comprehend
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:56:18 PM):
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:56:38 PM): he just can't say things straight out
Munchie Mun (8/7/2006 2:56:45 PM):
it went for half an hour so it's a debate......move it back aspy
