The Bible and Christianity

[Fa-Q]

Well I've been a Christian the majority of my life and its only been recently I've been questioning my faith. See, since 1st grade I've just been told that God loves you and all the bullshit Christians feed you. And they say that everybodys God's children. But if that's true why is there a hell. Why would he send his children to hell? I asked a teacher this and she said that its like a gift and you have to accept to, but we're all his children none the less. So your Dad is gonna let you burn down the house and leave you inside even though he said don't play with matches. Either we're all his children and he won't send us to hell, or the ones that go to hell aren't his children.


I don't know, I've never questioned that there is a God I just question Christianity and the Bible.

When you do papers for school you have to do a bibliography paper where you get have to say where you received all the infomation. The Bible doesn't have that, there's really no proof of any of that happening. I asked the same teacher this and she said there were prophecies in the Bible that come true. No, that's not proof. In fuckin Nancy Drew if she thinks the killer is in the lighthouse and then later on it comes true that doesn't mean Nancy Drew is a nonfiction book, its still fiction. I don't know, nowadays it seems Christians are either fake and don't follow their own rules and guidelines, or they compromise to try and get people at your church.

I know there's a lot of muslims on this site, so I would like your opinion too

[heva]

okey..first about this hell thing..God gave us a choice and a free will..just like He gave it to Lucifer who used to be his Angel, just like He gave it to first people on the face of the Earth(btw. don't think He made just 2 people when He was making us..whole Bible is speaking metaphoricaly, it's not history book)
so we can decide what's wrong and what's right and choose what's better for us..so it's not that He's giving up on us..it's more that we gave up on Him..
Stories in Bible are not all true..they are metaphorical and they are helping us to understand things better..you gotta read between the lines..

and this is kinda stupid for me to explain those things..if you are really cristian and mature enough you should understand these things before..I mean if you really think about them..I've seen people talk same things like you and my impression is that they are just hiding, runing away..they would like that God doesn't exist cuz they prefer to do bad things but they don't wanna go to hell..

hope I helped
sorry for mistakes

edit: I'm not good cristian but I'm tryin

[RapName]

(btw. don't think He made just 2 people when He was making us..whole Bible is speaking metaphoricaly, it's not history book)

Stories in Bible are not all true..they are metaphorical and they are helping us to understand things better..you gotta read between the lines..

How can you say that when so many christians is taking the whole bible litterally? That's you're own interpetation of the bible, but i actually think most christian "churches" see the bible as truth.

[AbramIsaac]

The whole story of Jesus is plagiarism almost down to the very names. Check out the story of Horus the Sun God, which is from something like 3000 B.C. It's ridiculous how similar the stories are.

Beyond that, I think it's good to question your religion. Why not? After all, when people do not question their religion, all of the bad things that religion has brought us comes to pass. People who blindly follow religion often end up doing bad things, and justifying it with "The Word of God".

I was raised Christian. It's something that I started to question a few years ago, but it never really fit for me. Even as a child, I could never make it work in my mind. I went through a baptism, went to church, etc. Even considered being a Pastor of some sort, but never could actually believe the Bible itself. These were ways of me trying, but it never "happened" for me.

I then realized (like many people have) that organized religion doesn't make sense. I'm right, you're wrong, you're going to Hell. That's ridiculous. Even the idea of a "God" by the organized religion definition makes no sense. However, if you look at Buddhism, it's a very interesting religion without these negative qualities. Lack of dogma, lack of an omnipresent God, etc. More of a way of thinking, rather than a rulebook that you must abide by.

In any case, I wish you well with your personal journey of sorts, and if you ever want to hit me up to talk about this type of stuff, just PM me. I'm not an atheist; I'm not trying to say there's not something more there. I just don't think there's a way to prove it, and organized religion certainly is not the answer.

[Low Key]

i don't believe in god, or jesus or religion. but sometimes i wish i did. it's strange really.

one thing that throws me off believing in god. is the fact that there are so many different religions. for example, christians have their story about god and jesus etc, and muslims have their own story about allah, and other religions have other beliefs. now, which one of them is true? we can't have more than one god surely? it just does not make sense at all.

in the bible it talks about adam and eve, the bible portrays them as being white. (well all the pictures i've ever seen of them are white) and the story is that they created the worlds population by having sex and having a baby. not only would their babies have to have sex with each other to carry on with the population creating (incest) but they would have to produce black people, chinese people, etc. it's just impossible and makes no sense at all.

but at the same time, sometimes i wish i had faith in god.

i believe there is something out there though. a greater species than us, and we are just pawns in their game, or their experiment. i think this is actually more logical than there being a god.

[heva]

this is not my own interpetation of the bible..this is something I learned from my teacher who is catholic priest..and I totally agree with what he said to us..some parts of Bible are true (like stories about Jesus) but some (like parts of Old Testament) are made up for people to uderstand better..Jesus was telling his students stories with lessons so they can visualize what he's taling about..

[Emadyville]

For my capstone class to graduate, we as a group, are helping out non-profits organizations. We met with the executive director yesterday with my group, and he was talking about how you to get people to donate.

He said about how you you have to get people to believe in what you're doing to get money, and after like a half hour he eventually compared it to priests (during church services) do the same thing. It kinda had me thinking, like yeah all the times I went to church when I was younger that's all they ever talked about was giving more money. I've been to Rome and the Vatican, all they do is want money, it seems more like a business than anything else to me.

I'm not sure what I believe about religion, all the points made previous were good. I agree with some and definitely have to say I felt/feel the same way about a lot of things. That comment on how the story was similar to this other sun god thing or whatever was interesting cause I've never heard that before.

To me the biggest question is this: If there was no God or higher power, how did we adapt and evolve to what we are today? From what I know about evolution or how life in any form started, was that the moons gravitational pull (or whatever it is that causes the tides) caused the ocean to (through the tides) moved shit onto land, that eventually became micro-organisms and shit like that. I may have totally fucked up that explanation so my bad if so, but how from that did we get people? That's the only thing that I don't understand, even when religion and the idea of what Jesus did with rising from the dead and shit seems just like a movie script, not something that's real life. Also, science proving shit wrong, like how the Catholic Church said the sun revolves around the earth and excommunicated anyone who disagreed. What happened to being so holy?

I think I believe there may be some higher power, but not the christian god, the muslim allah, the buddhist gods either, I'm not sure I believe in any specific religion, but I think they are great outlines on how we should live to benefit societies as a whole.

[Raquel]

About the hell, i asked that in my religion(they're nuns, they shoul know that) class too...they said the hell is not what we think it is. Is not a horrible place...is just like being alone. I think they said we'll to resucitate some day, and the people in 'hell' won't.

About the Bible.. i've never read it. i've read some things, we have to read them on school, and most things we read were that stories jesus told to ppl...dunno hiow it's called. So dunno.

[AbramIsaac]

I think I believe there may be some higher power, but not the christian god, the muslim allah, the buddhist gods either, I'm not sure I believe in any specific religion, but I think they are great outlines on how we should live to benefit societies as a whole.

Overall, you're post is very nice, but I'd like to point out that (from my knowledge) Buddhists don't have Gods. The different Buddhas are all representations of Holy men throughout Buddhist history, and only serve as reminders for the rest of us. "Buddha" is a state of being that people strive to achieve, beyond nirvana and enlightenment, to breaking the cycle of reincarnation.

Not like I've learned this from religion classes or anything, but I do find the religion very interesting. That being said, I could be off a little bit, but that's my best understanding of it.

[mrjizzbomber]

The Catholic Church caused the Crusades, killing millions, destroying entire towns, leading to the rape and murder of women and children. Not to mention attacks directed towards Jews, Muslims, and anyone who is not Catholic.

The Catholic Church called for multiple Inquisitions, torturing and abusing hundreds of thousands, turning people against each others (forcing them to call out others to save themselves), and targeting Jews, Muslims and anyone expected to not be a full blown Catholic.

The Catholic Church ignited the Witch Hunts, which ignited hundreds of thousands of women and cast blame towards countless others.

The Catholic Church has vigilantly opposed contraception, which in Africa has contributed to the AIDS crisis.

Mother Teresa had millions of Indian girls working as slaves for her.

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Why has the Catholic Church done these terrible, heinous, despicable, murderous things? The Catholic Church is by far the richest organization on the planet. The Vatican protects untold riches, fueling a global organization. They use their money to brainwash the world into thinking they are spreading 'Gods' word. They have Churches across the globe preaching faith towards God, and they vigorously silence anyone who threatens them. They cover up scandals with remarkable ease, and have hundreds of millions of devoted followers to do the same.

Pope after pope has called for murder, torture, targeting of specific religious, races, ethnicities and sexes. The Pope is really the ultimate Dr. Evil.

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I'll hedge my bets like this. There may be some form of higher power - or better put, an unexplainable phenomenon that has allowed the universe to develop as it has. But this phenomenon, when discovered, will be scientifically understandable and non contradicted. 'God', as every religion - particularly the Catholic Church - has put it is as real as Santa and the Easter Bunny. The entire world has been scammed, tricked, swindled and brainwashed.

And the reason? Money money money, the Catholic Church has more dirty money than the rest of the world combined.

- The Bomber

[Emadyville]

I think I believe there may be some higher power, but not the christian god, the muslim allah, the buddhist gods either, I'm not sure I believe in any specific religion, but I think they are great outlines on how we should live to benefit societies as a whole.

Overall, you're post is very nice, but I'd like to point out that (from my knowledge) Buddhists don't have Gods. The different Buddhas are all representations of Holy men throughout Buddhist history, and only serve as reminders for the rest of us. "Buddha" is a state of being that people strive to achieve, beyond nirvana and enlightenment, to breaking the cycle of reincarnation.

Not like I've learned this from religion classes or anything, but I do find the religion very interesting. That being said, I could be off a little bit, but that's my best understanding of it.

Yeah I learned about buddhism at one point in time, I thought they had like a ton of different gods, maybe they aren't god though, you're probably more accurate then I am, so thanks

[Low Key]

Well, they aren't different gods - they are all the same one. God = Allah = Yahweh = God = Allah. All the same So I hope that clarifies a bit of confusion about 'which' god to believe in.

that's bullshit. why do they have different rules then? and why do some religions believe there is more than one god. if they're all the same god why are there different religions.

fucking hell.

[Sophie]

Well, they aren't different gods - they are all the same one. God = Allah = Yahweh = God = Allah. All the same So I hope that clarifies a bit of confusion about 'which' god to believe in.

that's bullshit. why do they have different rules then? and why do some religions believe there is more than one god.

fucking hell.

Because they all went and made their own rules. Mankind did this. Not God.

Like, even in Christianity we still have two groups, Catholics & Protestants..both very very different yet believe in the same god.

Religion always has many unanswered questions, noones ever gonna find the 'right' answers, although they'll think they have.

[Low Key]

god doesn't exist though .............

[mrjizzbomber]

I think I believe there may be some higher power, but not the christian god, the muslim allah, the buddhist gods either, I'm not sure I believe in any specific religion, but I think they are great outlines on how we should live to benefit societies as a whole.

Religions do not provide 'great outlines' on how we should live / how societies should conduct themselves. Most religions support hate, lies, discrimination.

If you're looking for outlines on how we should live, try the Constitution of the United States of America.

Although they screwed up trying to prohibit consumption of alcohol... fixed it though.

- The Bomber