Manchester United vs Liverpool.

[gvdz]

what are you laughing at? i'm merely stating an opinion.

i guess your a liverpool supporter.

[hype]

what are you laughing at? i'm merely stating an opinion.

i guess your a liverpool supporter.

i'm not a liverpool supporter. which proves that i'm not biased.

[hype]

no i am not biased. all u need to do is watch the video replay and you can see that valencia went down too easily, he could've EASILY stayed on his feet, but no, he went down, he dived with the intention of getting a penalty. he cheated.

[hype]

no i am not biased. all u need to do is watch the video replay and you can see that valencia went down too easily, he could've EASILY stayed on his feet, but no, he went down, he dived with the intention of getting a penalty. he cheated.

lol but noone even argued about that, the video will show you how all the defenders were pointing out the place outside the box where it started, and on the video you'll clearly see how Mascerano getting behind and grabbing Valencia hand and put him down. Plus I told you none of the Liverpool players argued it was a foul or not, duruing and after the game. Nobody cheated, nobody said Valencia cheated they said the ref took it in instead of give it outside. And Mascerano himself said he was lucky enough to stay on the field. You gotta be biased to say something if even Liverpool players are against it. Gerard said they couldn't come back cuz they were worn off from the mid week game.

you don't half talk out of your arse. please show me where Mascherano said that he was lucky to have not been sent off. he never said such a thing. just because none of the players argued about the decision, doesn't mean to say that the decision was right, maybe the Liverpool players have more respect for the referee. you're obviously a Man United fan so you're used to seeing the players crowding and arguing with the Ref because that's trademark Man United, not all players is the same as the Man United players.

from articles that i happen to have read, Benitez does actually say that valencia went down suspiciously easily. and quite frankly, you only have to look at the video to see that he dived. why did he manage to stay on his feet outside the box, but as soon as he got IN the box, he was suddenly a helpless weakling and tumbled to the ground? because he KNEW he was in the box.

gerrard said that did he? once again, show me some evidence, you seem to be making this up as you go along. i'm a huge football follower so i wouldn't miss things like this. you can't fool me.

[hype]

another thing that i've just noticed is that the OP is a Man United fan yet he doesn't even live in England, let alone Manchester. typical glory hunter, and from what i've seen in another thread, some guy called Dr Dr3 or something like that, supports Chelsea and he isn't even from England either!

Glory hunting fans are usually the most impossible fans to debate football with, they all come out with the same, made up ramblings like you. I bet you don't live in England either!

[BILI]

My bet was on manchester...I won 220$

Biggest gambler on the forum.

...thats how it is...

[matz]

mascherano was not the last man, so no, it should not have been a sending off. in fact, i firmly believe that valencia should have been booked for diving.

thats not the rule, if you deny a clear goal scoring opportunity, your shown a red, weather mascherano did that or not is debatable

no i am not biased. all u need to do is watch the video replay and you can see that valencia went down too easily, he could've EASILY stayed on his feet, but no, he went down, he dived with the intention of getting a penalty. he cheated.

he definitely didnt dive because mascherano had hold of his shirt and was impeding him, if you do that, your asking for trouble, diving would be when there has been no contact at all, valencia has every right to go down as mascherano is attemptin to impede him against the rules of the game, i agree though that it wasnt a penalty, it was a free kick, but the refs gota impossible decision to make

[hype]

just because none of the players argued about the decision, doesn't mean to say that the decision was right, maybe the Liverpool players have more respect for the referee. you're obviously a Man United fan so you're used to seeing the players crowding and arguing with the Ref because that's trademark Man United, not all players is the same as the Man United players.

They did argue the decision, heavily that is and all of them did it but were poining the point outside the box where they wanted the foul to be. I didn't not see any respect for the ref, Torres fucking kick away the penalty spot kick. Did you even say respect for the ref???
Lemme tell you something. I the ref gave a no foul, fake foul outside the box as a penalty kick in a game Man United against Liverpool which if Liverpool lost would mean they almost sure won't make it in top 4 and will miss on CL would turn the respect you're talking about into vandalism. Jamie Carragher would beat the shit out the ref listening to his heart and wouldn't even care if they banned him for life. Mascerano who made the foul would go completely nuts and outta control like he always do and Liverpool's players will need 10 mins to calm him down in which he'll be in 10 situations for straight red card.
What Liverpool true fans need is another coach who'd bulid a team on a broader base of players like Carra and Gerard who are not just football players but life long Liverpool fans. This cry baby Benitez give millions for 10 players a year and then bizzarly let them to to other teams for free. Liverpool hasn't been the real Liverpool since Hulier. When are we goona see a team full with life long Liverpool fans like the one with David James, Jamie Carragher, Jamie Redknapp, Steve McManaman, Robbie Fowler and young Michael Owen and Stevie G. Never under Benitez matter a fact we'll see them as the next Arsenal if the stays longer and we'll expect 18 foreign players being called for games.
Ferguson spends a lot too but he always gives chance and brings on players from the youth acadamey, more than 100 since he's in Unied. How many young guys from Liverpool's academy were given a chance since Rafa's here, NONO. What's the point then to be in Liverpool's academy if this guy would not give you a chance. He doesn't even know who they are. Have you read David Beckam's book, he said Ferguson goes to the sports facility early in the morning, and after he's done with the first team he checks on all the youth formations literally knowing the name of any kid from the youngest one all the way to the reserve team.
Ironically Liverpool's fans have to be happy if the team finishes 6th or 7th like it looks like because that means finally they'll get rid of the cry baby.

that is more of a psychological thing, the reason they argued that it was outside the box instead of arguing wether it was a foul or not is because the ref has already blown his whistle, so arguing wether it was a foul or not would not make the slightest bit of difference whatsoever.

Benitez has only been at Liverpool for 5 years, and he has already won the Champions League, the FA Cup, came second in the League last year etc. it took Alex Ferguson SEVEN years before he won ANYTHING. think about that first, before you criticise.

Liverpool won't finish 6th or 7th. i firmly believe that they'll finish 4th, judging from the fixture list. Spurs, Man City and Aston Villa have all got some very hard games coming up, facing the likes of each other, Man United, Chelsea and Arsenal. Liverpool have only got Chelsea left, all the rest are easily winnable fixtures.

he definitely didnt dive because mascherano had hold of his shirt and was impeding him, if you do that, your asking for trouble, diving would be when there has been no contact at all, valencia has every right to go down as mascherano is attemptin to impede him against the rules of the game, i agree though that it wasnt a penalty, it was a free kick, but the refs gota impossible decision to make

from what i can see in the replay, he went down VERY easily, i could've stayed on my feet! and his face expression as he went down was a massive giveaway.

[hype]

seriously, you have the mentality of a 5 year old glory hunter. get the fuck out of here. you seem to think that everything you say is a fact. well i got news for you sunshine, it's NOT.

quit rambling. it's getting embarrassing now.

[hype]

yeah, mascherano doesn't look anywhere near him. what a diver.

and if you watch Park's goal, you'll see that Rooney was holding back Carragher and stopping him from gettin in to head the ball clear.

take your Man United tinted glasses off, you idiot.

[MikeNUFC]

yeah, mascherano doesn't look anywhere near him. what a diver.

and if you watch Park's goal, you'll see that Rooney was holding back Carragher and stopping him from gettin in to head the ball clear.

take your Man United tinted glasses off, you idiot.

I love this guy!

[hype]

I love this guy!

lol how come?

[gvdz]

seriously, you have the mentality of a 5 year old glory hunter. get the fuck out of here. you seem to think that everything you say is a fact. well i got news for you sunshine, it's NOT.

quit rambling. it's getting embarrassing now.

lol yeah I know it's getting embarrassing but I know who's exactly embarrassing himself, lo obviously a lot more serious people see it and you can read and do the math. lol I thought you wanted a normal and serious debate so of course everything is a fact, what it is that you had to know it if you followed football closely as you said. lol I won't even bother to explain anymore, while you keep asking people why they are laughing at you. lol

i agree with you francesco
and hype just shut the fuck up fool

[hype]

seriously, you have the mentality of a 5 year old glory hunter. get the fuck out of here. you seem to think that everything you say is a fact. well i got news for you sunshine, it's NOT.

quit rambling. it's getting embarrassing now.

lol yeah I know it's getting embarrassing but I know who's exactly embarrassing himself, lo obviously a lot more serious people see it and you can read and do the math. lol I thought you wanted a normal and serious debate so of course everything is a fact, what it is that you had to know it if you followed football closely as you said. lol I won't even bother to explain anymore, while you keep asking people why they are laughing at you. lol

i agree with you francesco
and hype just shut the fuck up fool

you're just another glory hunter. sad.

[gvdz]

i agree with you francesco
and hype just shut the fuck up fool[/quote]

you're just another glory hunter. sad.[/quote]

haha why?
you are annoyin me with those comments.
fact is that man united won
and your mother is sad fool