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Re: Pacewon is Trying to Reconcile with Em

Postby EminemBase » May 11th, '10, 01:32

Francesco10 wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^ Well I still don't understand your point.

And I think comparing running a website supporting and promoting Eminem to taking Paparazzi pictures is absurd.

It'd just be best if we didn't speak to each other as we don't agree on much and it just turns into pointless misunderstandings. So I'll just leave you and leave me.



Well saying you promote Eminem is absurd, cuz promotion means financial or whatever advantage for the party that's been promoted and the fact is Eminem won't get anything out of your website while you could get plenty using his name/face etc on it, that's why his camp tries to desperately stop all this "promotion" on youtube at the first place and people's accounts have been heavily erased that last week cuz of that kinda "promotion", eventhough youtube is gigantic website and would give Eminem plenty more options if he needed it. I am sure you're inteligent and you'd know the difference.

Rather than that I think you're pretty right about the rest and it's fair enough if we didn't speak so I could say I wish you all the best on personal or profesional level.


Actually anything with his face on it is promotion. Anything which contributes AT ALL in any shape or form to the advertisement of something / someone is promotion.

I'm not saying I've been appointed or that I'm seriously helping Eminem's career, but comparing running a website to taking paparazzi shots is totally absurd. I run the website to update fans with news and to build a community and a site filled with related media. It ISSSS promotion.

As for 'his camp' taking down YouTube vids. That's not his camp and they're not doing it because they don't like people promoting Eminem. That is Universal Music Group who own the rights to the music distributed through all Interscope (and many others) artists. They were blocking them because they were throwing their toys out the pram for not receiving enough of the advertising cut from Google.

But now that they're back on terms, that's why they no longer block videos and you can upload it to see that all that will happen is ads get placed on and / or next to your videos. It's not an issue of morals or what they want for their artists. It's an issue of $$$ as always.

Once again though, this is not comparable to running a fansite. And yes it's best we leave each other alone, I wasn't bothering you so I'd appreciate it if you just leave me too. Thanks.
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Re: Pacewon is Trying to Reconcile with Em

Postby Throwback24 » May 11th, '10, 01:56

Pacewon is far more talented than Royce.
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Re: Pacewon is Trying to Reconcile with Em

Postby EminemBase » May 11th, '10, 10:39

^ Promotion is ANYTHING which can be deemed as advertisement. Eminem, his face, his name, his whole package is a brand. Anything with his name or face on is promotion.

Doesn't matter if it works for or against the product. Much advertisement fails, doesn't mean it's not advertising / promotion. It's not to say whether it's good or bad, my site IS promotion of Eminem. That's not its purpose. Its purpose is a resource, the promotion aspect is a by-product. But good or bad, failed or successful, advantageous or detrimental - it is promotion.
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Re: Pacewon is Trying to Reconcile with Em

Postby SajN » May 11th, '10, 11:04

Why are we so off-topic?
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Re: Pacewon is Trying to Reconcile with Em

Postby EminemBase » May 11th, '10, 11:09

Francesco10 wrote:Just checked your website, I like the design of it and it's a nice fan website overall but it's def not a promotion of Eminem. It's Eminem promoting your website without his knowledge which is def an imposture. Technically it is a promotion but the other way around because he happens to be one of the most popular man if not he most popular in world of music period and your website as you said is just a fan based website which popularity depends on people who are already Eminem fans and follow him so 100% of them would get that info as secondary which is not a promotion for him, but for your website.
Nothin' wrong with that though, I'm just answering you because you weren't right again about it.


No I am right. Promotion is ADVERTISING of ANY FORM, full stop. My website may be getting traffic BECAUSE of Eminem, because people are into him and following him but the site itself is an outward promotion of the Eminem brand / his music.

Like I said, whether it's good or bad, advantageous to him or not, failed or succeeding it IS STILL PROMOTION. Any advertising, any placement of a brand / business name, image, logo, theme anywhere is advertising and therefore promotion. It doesn't matter that I'm just running a website.

I'm not claiming the website is giving him more fans or that he needs me to do it but the very fact the website is about Eminem, the fact I'm pushing it and it carries the themes of him as an artist makes it promotion of Eminem. End of.
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Re: Pacewon is Trying to Reconcile with Em

Postby SajN » May 11th, '10, 11:09

And now we all shup up, alright?
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