christian rap

[Saajid]

well, i was part of this community and into the rap game. now i gave my life to the lord so im conforming to christian rap.
now does that make me a bad person?
its not like im like"hey god loves me and ur not christians so im not gonna chill wit ya'll"
i mean we all culd still keep in touch

Please share your story regarding your religious change if you don't mind.

[drasticlyhated]

well, i was part of this community and into the rap game. now i gave my life to the lord so im conforming to christian rap.
now does that make me a bad person?
its not like im like"hey god loves me and ur not christians so im not gonna chill wit ya'll"
i mean we all culd still keep in touch

Please share your story regarding your religious change if you don't mind.

so here it is. its mad long and not many details but ask any questions

my death is comin soon/
and yours is comin to/
maranatha is all i scream/
since i came out the womb/
i was a problem child/
to busy to stop laugin/
yea to many distractions/
like a bad driving ticket/
i had to many infractions/
i was a christian(man)/
i knew it was higher power/
but i aint really care/
i wanted to spread my sin outward/
yea my parents got divorced/
but married for wrong reasons/
when they seperated/
i felt betrayed beyond reason/
so wud i do?/
i wrapped up in sin/
it made feel good/
like a iad somethin to win/
but really it was all to lose/
i put my faith in money,clothes and shoes/
i went to church sunday/ and sat in the pughs/
reminisin on how much i was a fictional dude/
i never spread the gospel cuz i aint have no room/
my life-without christ/was a 1 without 2/
i went to a youth camp and heard a great message/
my closet freind went forward/yea it left me breathless/
like me/he never lived a christian life/
now he's renewed and gave his life to christ/
i broke down and cried/
i told god i was sory for all of my sins and lies/
i asked myself/ why? why? why?/
must i live this way?/ i hate this life/
now im new in my faith/
and unushamed of the gospel/
90%baptist 10 penticostal/

[Saajid]

What made you choose Christianity? I studied Christianity very in depth searching for the meaning of life but I didn't find the Bible to be a trustworthy source of 100% preserved information (who wrote it? etc.). I never understood why people would pray to Jesus instead of God either when Jesus himself prayed to God. It's idolatry to worship other than God alone. I know people try to say that Jesus is God, but that just doesn't make sense that Jesus is God and the son of God and he prayed to God even though he was God... just doesn't make sense. I read the Qur'an, which has been preserved, and embraced Islam.

[drasticlyhated]

tha world is ending soon people.
god is comin.
look at the gulf disaster.
look at obama, research the crazy things hes doin behind people back.
Jesus christ is GOD.
he was born of tha virgin mary nd sent here by his holy father.
all the books in the bible were written by jesus's deciples.
we all deserve to burn in hell for our sin. but thats why jesus died on the cross, he took the price for our sins so that we may have everlasting life.
JESUS PRAYED TO GOD BECAUSE HE HAD TO DIE ON THE CROSS. HE KNEW HIS DEATH WAS NEAR.HE SWEAT BEADS OF BLOOD ND ASKED GOD TO TAKE THIS CUP AWAY FROM HIM.showing that he to was human and faced the same emotions us as.

[Saajid]

You're not necessarily struck dead upon committing sin...I don't get why people are so..uhh..close minded when discussing religion. Yeah the Bible does have some contradictions, but there is a lot of stuff in there worth reading.

I think the most influential stuff for me that keeps me staying Christian is the fact that a ton of prophecies were predicted hundreds of years prior to the actual event - nearly picture perfect, if not 100% on the dot.

Some of what is in the Bible was revealed as revelation to Prophets, but it was not 100% preserved to this day and the authors cannot be traced. God did not leave us without a preserved scripture though, and a Prophet was sent after Jesus: The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. The Qur'an confirms the revelation of past scriptures & past Prophets, and calls to the worship of God alone.

[Saajid]

tha world is ending soon people.

True.

Jesus christ is GOD.

False. Jesus, peace be upon him, was a man and Prophet who worshiped God.

he was born of tha virgin mary

True.

all the books in the bible were written by jesus's deciples.

False: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS37yrBwx2Q

jesus died on the cross, he took the price for our sins so that we may have everlasting life.

False, he wasn't crucified. God caused him to ascend to the heavens and he will descend in the end of times to kill the false messiah and he will condemn those who worshiped him instead of God.

JESUS PRAYED TO GOD BECAUSE HE HAD TO DIE ON THE CROSS. HE KNEW HIS DEATH WAS NEAR.HE SWEAT BEADS OF BLOOD ND ASKED GOD TO TAKE THIS CUP AWAY FROM HIM.showing that he to was human and faced the same emotions us as.

You just said a few lines up that Jesus was God. How is Jesus God yet he prays to God? God doesn't pray to Himself. Jesus was a man and Prophet who worshiped God & preached that other people worship God.

[drasticlyhated]

im sorry. were is your scripture again? if you actualy studied tha bible youd be more informed

John 17:3 (New International Version)

3Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

[Saajid]

im sorry. were is your scripture again? if you actualy studied tha bible youd be more informed

John 17:3 (New International Version)

3Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

The Qur'an is the Speech of God and explains that Jesus, peace be upon him, is not God nor did he ever claim to be God.

The Bible as we have it today was written by man. You still didn't explain how Jesus is God yet he prayed to God. But while we're sharing Bible quotes, check this one out:

"And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God" - Mathew 19:17

That passage obviously shows Jesus separating himself from God in the Bible itself.

[drasticlyhated]

it was showing that jesus was god.but still in the form of man
jesus had not yet died on the cross.
i am new to the christian faith so unfortunatly im unable to answer all of your questions
but. instead of critising what my scripture says.what does yours 'say'?

[Saajid]

i am new to the christian faith so unfortunatly im unable to answer all of your questions
but. instead of critising what my scripture says.what does yours 'say'?

I respect your honesty.

The Qur'an says that Jesus and all of the Prophets throughout time, peace be upon them all, called to the worship of God alone. Jesus was a human being born of the virgin Mary, who performed miracles and ascended to the heavens, but he never commanded anyone to worship anything except God and Jesus was also not crucified.

Every sane adult will be held accountable for his/her own actions and there is no scape goat. Prophets like Abraham, Moses, David, and Jesus were given scriptures, but they have not been preserved for us to follow today, as they were for past nations. We should adhere to the most recent and only preserved scripture that was revealed to us by God which is the Qur'an. Since the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was the last and final Prophet sent to mankind, God has preserved the Qur'an for us so we may know Truth from falsehood. The Qur'an can be traced back to the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, and there is only one version in one language... the Bible is not like this.

Concepts such as Jesus being God and the son of God, etc. were later introduced after Jesus left, which turned Jesus into an idol. Idolatry/associating partners with God is the worst sin of all and Jesus will condemn those who worshiped him or associated him as a partner with God Almighty.

[drasticlyhated]

i need the name of the book.the verse and who wrote it
if you cant match that then im sory

[Saajid]

i need the name of the book.the verse and who wrote it
if you cant match that then im sory

Sorry, I thought I posted this link for you in the other thread: http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc ... lim/quran/

"The Qur'an" is the name of the scripture/revelation. It was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, about 1400 years ago over the span of around 23 years. The Qur'an is in the Arabic language, but that link has the chapters of the Qur'an listed in english and it provides 3 different english translations for every verse of the Qur'an. That's where I read it for the first time and I embraced Islam shortly after.

[Saajid]

Also, here is a link to hear someone reciting the Qur'an in Arabic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr8DR8frP_s

That is the actual Qur'an, it's an arabic recitation. It rhymes and it's very tranquil and beautiful, but there are also english translations written in books and available online to read and study.

[drasticlyhated]

ok listen this turned into a religous battle when all i was doin was sharing my music its not worth it to argue with you.you have your set of beleifs i have mine
no im not giving up
but this thread was not intinded for this

[Saajid]

ok listen this turned into a religous battle when all i was doin was sharing my music its not worth it to argue with you.you have your set of beleifs i have mine
no im not giving up
but this thread was not intinded for this

I didn't think we were having a religious battle, we were just having a discussion about two different religions. Besides, this is the "Serious Debate" forum bro, and I used to be a Christian so I wanted to share some of the things I learned during my studies. You can accept it or reject it, it's up to you... we're all going to be held accountable to God individually.