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Best dictator.. (stalin vs hitler)

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hitler or stalin

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Postby shady_soldierz » Mar 2nd, '06, 22:32

ill try 2 keep it really short.

taKkin away money lives from rich people and killing them to give some to the poor is not a good solution...

i still c him as a really bad person and a dictator. i have a lot more reasons...

o and ya i did consider it from a workers point of view
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Postby AspirinE » Mar 2nd, '06, 22:39

shady_soldierz wrote:ill try 2 keep it really short.

taKkin away money lives from rich people and killing them to give some to the poor is not a good solution...

i still c him as a really bad person and a dictator. i have a lot more reasons...

o and ya i did consider it from a workers point of view


Comunism didnt "take away" it shared, there were no people to hold billions, the country used money for war and country reconstruction. With time to pass, there were many kinds of benifits introduced.
my grandmother for example had the posibbility to freely travel without having to pay a penny, simply because she was voleyball player.

U have still not mentioned who u consider to be killed, by Stalin.
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Postby hot_dogg » Mar 3rd, '06, 06:14

well.. stalin kinda owned.. but in a bad way, but so did hitler, so i actually dunno y i voted for stalin, i guess i just like his awesome mustache
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Postby dantespyke » Mar 4th, '06, 07:46

Hitler was better because of his political genius. He united a country on the brink of destruction and turned it into the most feared power of its time.
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Postby dantespyke » Mar 8th, '06, 00:00

True he commited genocide in the form on concentration camps. But that makes him a monster not a bad leader. Seeing as there was extremely little people oppused to the killings. He brought the people to his side. Therefore he is a better leader
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Postby AspirinE » Mar 8th, '06, 18:24

dantespyke wrote:True he commited genocide in the form on concentration camps. But that makes him a monster not a bad leader. Seeing as there was extremely little people oppused to the killings. He brought the people to his side. Therefore he is a better leader


hes smarter and more bloodfirsty, he lied to people to get were he was. It worked yes, ut i wouldnt say he is a great leader. The darkside is always more powerfull, hatred makes people ruthless and gives them moral support in war.

Any nation that uses this kind of aproach will succeed, but it will need a smart leader to put it to work.
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Postby walend » Mar 8th, '06, 18:27

Hitler was injected 4 times a day with amfetamines....
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Postby neha » Mar 12th, '06, 14:37

well if you look at the facts stalin killed more people than hitler...
that's a fact but i choose hitler because he was briliant(not good but very smart :sweating: )
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Postby AspirinE » Mar 12th, '06, 19:15

neha wrote:well if you look at the facts stalin killed more people than hitler...
that's a fact but i choose hitler because he was briliant(not good but very smart :sweating: )




Were the fuck did u get that from.... jesus christ...
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Postby neha » Mar 12th, '06, 22:44

well i don't know were you go to school or IF you go to school, but IT'S A FACT THAT STALIN KILLED MORE PEOPLE!!!!!!!
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Postby AspirinE » Mar 12th, '06, 22:52

neha wrote:well i don't know were you go to school or IF you go to school, but IT'S A FACT THAT STALIN KILLED MORE PEOPLE!!!!!!!


its not a fact.....


And i dare you to prove it to me stastistically. Every teacher teaches an opinion, hitler and Stalin were hated and peoples minds were heavily fucked with during the cold war...


I can admit that stalin is responsible for murdering capaitalists(major capitalists and suspected spies) and many were sent to gulaks for disobeying.

But stalin could not have possibly order to kill more people than hitler...
Hitler ordered a fucking a genoside.

Unless u cant support ur opinon with facts or logic, u cant submit it as FACT..
coz ur doing a jolly good job as a propoganda spreading, anti-socialist.
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Postby neha » Mar 12th, '06, 22:56

first of all: WHAT ??????

i don't know about facts but we were discussing this a few days ago in school and the teacher said that stalin killed more people than hitler....well i trust my teachers word :D

i can choose between you and my teacher??? guess who i will pick :(
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Postby AspirinE » Mar 12th, '06, 23:05

neha wrote:first of all: WHAT ??????

i don't know about facts but we were discussing this a few days ago in school and the teacher said that stalin killed more people than hitler....well i trust my teachers word :D

i can choose between you and my teacher??? guess who i will pick :(



Well ofcourse the 20 million russian people dead as result of WW2 doesnt count as hitlers murders.

And the millions gassed in consentration camps
German murders are freeking masive..
I aint praising stalin, but propoganda is playing on the democratic side in schools. Ur teacher might be ust one of people that hate socialism.
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Postby neha » Mar 12th, '06, 23:09

thnx, now i'm confused :'(
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Postby AspirinE » Mar 12th, '06, 23:18

neha wrote:thnx, now i'm confused :'(



The worst thing stalin ever done and the only aweflull thing that i think he'd ever done is "holodomor" wich was indeed horrible, and it will seem like simple to decision to exterminate to some, but the the whole case was very complicated, and was even more complecated by cold weather. It was basically cut of from suplies in food.. I for one see it like a civil war, it was much easier just to obide... If that territory wasnt owned by Soviet union by the time the war started, the germans would have prolly taken a peice of it too, and god knows wat they would do.


I bet people here(in this debate) usualy think that im justifying stalin, im not , im trying to show that stalins numbers simply cant compare to Nazi victims.
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