Should a Mosque be built near ground zero?

[WakeUpShow]

The Fact is the people building it aren't doing it to spite the victims of 9/11 BUT many extremists around the world will view it as a victory. I believe it is insensitive to the families of the victims.
Move it 10 blocks down. problem solved.

yes. perfect... except for the Muslim Americans who live in the area the mosque is currently being built at.

Everyone seems to forget about them

they can't drive 10 blocks?

[mrjizzbomber]

They shouldn't have to burden any inconvenience because of the intolerance of their fellow countrymen. And 10 blocks in NYC? Thats a 4 hour drive.

[mrjizzbomber]

how about they build a mosque every 2 steps so none of the muslims have to even own a car to go to them???

When you make a statement like that, do you not realize you are being fueled by intolerance if not outright hate?

[mcZu]

how about they build a mosque every 2 steps so none of the muslims have to even own a car to go to them???

When you make a statement like that, do you not realize you are being fueled by intolerance if not outright hate?

It's hate. He is an Arabic Christian, obviously he has something against Muslims.

[mcZu]

It's all good. Don't sweat it, just try to be informed before you talk about a certain topic. Otherwise once opinion will be just in vain.

[mrjizzbomber]

Plus, this won't even be an "issue" after November.

Sigh, this country is messed up

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Al Qaeda leaders say that the Mosque controversy is helping them recruit
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfa ... n_the.html

Former military interrogator says building the Mosque will help fight Al Qaeda
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/0 ... da/?hpt=T2

Building the Mosque helps fight terrorism. Protesting the Mosque helps the terrorists.

All of those against the Mosque are... supporting..... terrorism?

[WakeUpShow]

how about they build a mosque every 2 steps so none of the muslims have to even own a car to go to them???

When you make a statement like that, do you not realize you are being fueled by intolerance if not outright hate?

It's hate. He is an Arabic Christian, obviously he has something against Muslims.

you think he is actually hating. that is such a strong word to use. I have to drive like 5 miles to get to my church. but they can't drive 5 blocks? c'mon..and him stating a clear level headed statement is not hate or intolerance. Wake Up ppl.

[mrjizzbomber]

What would the reaction be if they wanted to build a church in your town, closer to where you live? You might find it convenient too. And if your town had population density anywhere near that of NYC there probably WOULD be a Church closer.

There is a reason for the community center being built there: there is a large community of Muslims living in the area, and in NYC 10 blocks covers a large population. That is why they chose that area, it is where the future community center attendees currently live.

You brought up "why don't they just move it 10 blocks". Maybe I shouldn't have given the logistical answer. They shouldn't "just move it 10 blocks" because that would be an action of giving in to blind hate and intolerance. It would be making a major decision based on the ignorance of Americans. They shouldn't just move it because we should be better than that.

The fact that this is even an issue shows that our country is MUCH further back than I could have ever imagined. Considering this, I am actually glad that this has been brought into the limelight. I think there are many Americans (myself included) who are OUTRAGED at the ignorance and bigotry of our fellow countrymen. They shouldn't move that Mosque because it would be rewarding such foolishness.

And I really wouldn't consider his hyperbole a "level headed" statement...

[FAME]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahVaxoN20E8

I saw this video and...it kinda brought a tear to my eye. Watch it everyone! It's really short too.

[Irvinga04]

1 thing people seem to ignore is where the money is coming from to build this "community centre".
The funding has been confirmed as coming direct from Saudi Arabia, a place where you would be KILLED for converting out of Isam, where women are not allowed to travel freely without a mans permission and where there isnt a single church allowed in the land. Oh yes, and nearly all of the 9/11 hijackers were from there was well.
Its obvous the people funding it will have a big say in what is taught there, what materials are on display, ect.
If the purpose behind bulding it here was really to 'improve relations', surely they would have seen by now from the reaction that in fact it will do the opposite, and decide to move it to another site. This smacks to me of something a bit more sinister.

[FAME]

1 thing people seem to ignore is where the money is coming from to build this "community centre".
The funding has been confirmed as coming direct from Saudi Arabia, a place where you would be KILLED for converting out of Isam, where women are not allowed to travel freely without a mans permission and where there isnt a single church allowed in the land. Oh yes, and nearly all of the 9/11 hijackers were from there was well.
Its obvous the people funding it will have a big say in what is taught there, what materials are on display, ect.
If the purpose behind bulding it here was really to 'improve relations', surely they would have seen by now from the reaction that in fact it will do the opposite, and decide to move it to another site. This smacks to me of something a bit more sinister.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/0821/fo ... sque-imam/

the man from Saudi Arabia who is helping fund the center also owns part of fox news, or so yahoo news says. And yahoo is a pretty reliable place for news in my eyes. so why are fox getting their panties in a bunch?

[Irvinga04]

1 thing people seem to ignore is where the money is coming from to build this "community centre".
The funding has been confirmed as coming direct from Saudi Arabia, a place where you would be KILLED for converting out of Isam, where women are not allowed to travel freely without a mans permission and where there isnt a single church allowed in the land. Oh yes, and nearly all of the 9/11 hijackers were from there was well.
Its obvous the people funding it will have a big say in what is taught there, what materials are on display, ect.
If the purpose behind bulding it here was really to 'improve relations', surely they would have seen by now from the reaction that in fact it will do the opposite, and decide to move it to another site. This smacks to me of something a bit more sinister.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/0821/fo ... sque-imam/

the man from Saudi Arabia who is helping fund the center also owns part of fox news, or so yahoo news says. And yahoo is a pretty reliable place for news in my eyes. so why are fox getting their panties in a bunch?

I didnt get any info from fox news, im not even american. Just because one of the people funding it has a BUSINESS venture into a news company, i dont really think that makes any difference. There are also some questionable statements made by the Imam of the proposed mosque, whos supposed to be a token moderate.

[fopower]

1 thing people seem to ignore is where the money is coming from to build this "community centre".
The funding has been confirmed as coming direct from Saudi Arabia, a place where you would be KILLED for converting out of Isam, where women are not allowed to travel freely without a mans permission and where there isnt a single church allowed in the land. Oh yes, and nearly all of the 9/11 hijackers were from there was well.
Its obvous the people funding it will have a big say in what is taught there, what materials are on display, ect.
If the purpose behind bulding it here was really to 'improve relations', surely they would have seen by now from the reaction that in fact it will do the opposite, and decide to move it to another site. This smacks to me of something a bit more sinister.

So are we now questioning whether or not the community center will be used as some sort of terrorist training camp? That seems to be what you're implying...

[mcZu]

1 thing people seem to ignore is where the money is coming from to build this "community centre".
The funding has been confirmed as coming direct from Saudi Arabia, a place where you would be KILLED for converting out of Isam, where women are not allowed to travel freely without a mans permission and where there isnt a single church allowed in the land. Oh yes, and nearly all of the 9/11 hijackers were from there was well.
Its obvous the people funding it will have a big say in what is taught there, what materials are on display, ect.
If the purpose behind bulding it here was really to 'improve relations', surely they would have seen by now from the reaction that in fact it will do the opposite, and decide to move it to another site. This smacks to me of something a bit more sinister.

So, let me get this right, because the money is coming from Saudi Arabia they shouldn't built that Community Center? Just because a certain couple of ''highjackers'' where from that country? What has women rights to do with this topic? Because don't get me started on women rights, the world has the wrong image about Islam and women. And because there ins't a church in that country? Kudos, you've listed an incredible list of arguments against building this community center...

Let me tell you a lil' story, everyday people are dying the Gaza strip. Israeli troops are murdering innocent civilians. The weapons they use are bought from American companies. Does that mean that America is the cause of the killings? Does that mean that, because of the weapon distribution, these innocent people are dying because of America? NOOOOO. In other words, let's don't built any more embassies or anything US related in the world... Why? Because your logice says so...

That's probably the most preposterous argument against this community center yet. Assuming people will be trained to become terrorists because the business man who is funding this project is from Saudi Arabia, preposterous....

[Irvinga04]

1 thing people seem to ignore is where the money is coming from to build this "community centre".
The funding has been confirmed as coming direct from Saudi Arabia, a place where you would be KILLED for converting out of Isam, where women are not allowed to travel freely without a mans permission and where there isnt a single church allowed in the land. Oh yes, and nearly all of the 9/11 hijackers were from there was well.
Its obvous the people funding it will have a big say in what is taught there, what materials are on display, ect.
If the purpose behind bulding it here was really to 'improve relations', surely they would have seen by now from the reaction that in fact it will do the opposite, and decide to move it to another site. This smacks to me of something a bit more sinister.

So are we now questioning whether or not the community center will be used as some sort of terrorist training camp? That seems to be what you're implying...

Not a training camp, but perhaps somewhere which encourages the beliefs that lead people to commit terroism.
I just can't really beleive that the people over in Saudi are too interested in "community cohesion" between muslims and non-muslims in New York when they regard all non-muslims (kuffir) as lesser beings.