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abortoin banned in ohio (dont fight in this topic pleez!!!!)

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do u think abortoin is right?

yes
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no
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undecided
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Total votes : 24

Postby AspirinE » Mar 9th, '06, 23:29

Clarky '05 wrote:hahaha^ LOL.
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290 Days, 7 Hours, 34 Minutes until my views on abortion change for some reason \:D/



I had one of my friends come to my house once, after his girl got pregnant after christmas, its the time wen u dont actually care how this whole sperm + egg thing works lmao
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Postby Ivy » Mar 9th, '06, 23:46

AspirinE wrote:Not only will population rise greatly, but there is gonna be more broke mothers with 3-4 babies hungry, trying to survive. logically its a stupid thing to do.



You do have a point about the population growth, I've done some further research and I found that in the United States alone, without abortions, the population would have greatly inclined. From the time that Abortion was legalized until now, the population is shocking at what it could have been...

Total abortions from1973 to 1998 -- 38,010,378
(Based on numbers and estimates reported by the Alan Guttmacher Institute 1973-1996,with NRLC
estimates of 1,365,730 for 1997 and 1998. AGI estimates a possible 3% underreporting rate,
which is factored into the total.)

Just think how many have been done since 1998 :zipped:
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Postby AspirinE » Mar 9th, '06, 23:50

TaylorakaTiGGi wrote:
AspirinE wrote:Not only will population rise greatly, but there is gonna be more broke mothers with 3-4 babies hungry, trying to survive. logically its a stupid thing to do.



You do have a point about the population growth, I've done some further research and I found that in the United States alone, without abortions, the population would have greatly inclined. From the time that Abortion was legalized until now, the population is shocking at what it could have been...

Total abortions from1973 to 1998 -- 38,010,378
(Based on numbers and estimates reported by the Alan Guttmacher Institute 1973-1996,with NRLC
estimates of 1,365,730 for 1997 and 1998. AGI estimates a possible 3% underreporting rate,
which is factored into the total.)

Just think how many have been done since 1998 :zipped:



Well as far as america goes, i say wat the hell illegalize it, there'll only be more people to steal from.

Europe encourages people to have children by providing benefits, i think its wat every country should do.. Itll take 30% of wat gates has to rize leife standarts by a good amount amongs the worker class.
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Mar 10th, '06, 00:06

yall keep sayin its the womeans fault... thats fucked up. cus sumtimes it aint.... wat happens wen a woman gets raped?... are u tryin to tell me its her fault?! :angry: are u tryin to say that wen i got raped it was my fault?!..... cus no one asks for that! no one!
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Mar 10th, '06, 00:11

TaylorakaTiGGi wrote:Attention please...Abortion in Ohio is LEGAL...it wasn't banned...I'll say it again...ABORTION IN OHIO IS LEGAL...however, South Dakota is trying to cause abortion to be illegal...and will do so accordingly...If abortion becomes illegal in South Dakota, it will be going agaisnt the Supreme Court's decision in the ruling of Roe vs. Wade, so the US Supreme Court will have no choice but to open the case back up and make another decision in which will determine if abortion will still be legal or if abortion will become illegal. Why is South Dakota trying to puch abortion to be illegal? Because there are 9 Supreme Judges that decide whether something becomes a law or not, 2 have retired in the past year and Bush has assigned 2 "new" Judges. This could change the fate of abortion and humanity as we know it.


To Sarah and for all others who would like to know
Sarah asked me what my personal reasons were in why I was agaisn't abortion, here it is...My mother tried several times to become impregenated, and finally she achieved her wish...however, after 5 months of pregnancy, and waiting to see if I were going to be male or female, the date arrived...she soon found out of what the doctor's thought, that I was going to be male(military doctors, that says enough)...and she went frantic, she didn't want a male, she wanted a female...so she went to an abortion clinic soon after and made a date of when she was going to abort the fetus...however, my father thought otherwise...I was his child, he should have a say in it...my dad went to Military Court, and fought the case, pushing the abortion date back until the Court made a ruling...the court decided that the decision of abortion should be joint between my mother and father...I wasn't aborted as you can see...4 months later when I was born, I was a female...my mom was shocked...however, I never was treated as I should've been by my mother...I was my father's pride and joy...today I've found out by studying the history on my mother's side of the family...that all mother's on my mom's side of the family have never gotten along with their daughters...and my mother wanted to prove to her mother that she could get along with her daughter...bullshit...we still haven't gotten along to this day...and the Federal Court of the United States has stated that my mother is an unfit parent, so I will never be allowed to have the chance of living with her, so I live with my father...

That is why I feel so personal about abortion, if it weren't for my father and his eternal strenghts and for him seeking justice, my mother would have killed me all because of my sex...that's why I'm agaisn't it...


wait... im sorry... wtf?! :confusion: were did u hear that?.... i heard on the radio that they had passed a law.... or cum to think of it.... i think they may have been thinking of doing it.... :unsure: now im just confused :confusion:
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Postby Ivy » Mar 10th, '06, 00:15

I discussed the matter in Civics and me and my teacher went online and I can't remember exactly how we worded it, but I promise, no state in the US has banned abortion, it would go agaisnt the US Supreme Court's decision as I said, the only state thinking of banning it is South Dakota... ;)
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Mar 10th, '06, 00:28

TaylorakaTiGGi wrote:I discussed the matter in Civics and me and my teacher went online and I can't remember exactly how we worded it, but I promise, no state in the US has banned abortion, it would go agaisnt the US Supreme Court's decision as I said, the only state thinking of banning it is South Dakota... ;)


o.. okie dokie then... but im tellin u wat i heard on the radio..... and they were discussing it.... but like i said, they could possibly just be considering it.... but thanx for the research :flower: its very helpful, cus i didnt know about it going against the supreme court... propz TIGGI :worship:
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Postby Fi.J. » Mar 10th, '06, 16:03

TaylorakaTiGGi wrote:Attention please...Abortion in Ohio is LEGAL...it wasn't banned...I'll say it again...ABORTION IN OHIO IS LEGAL...however, South Dakota is trying to cause abortion to be illegal...and will do so accordingly...If abortion becomes illegal in South Dakota, it will be going agaisnt the Supreme Court's decision in the ruling of Roe vs. Wade, so the US Supreme Court will have no choice but to open the case back up and make another decision in which will determine if abortion will still be legal or if abortion will become illegal. Why is South Dakota trying to puch abortion to be illegal? Because there are 9 Supreme Judges that decide whether something becomes a law or not, 2 have retired in the past year and Bush has assigned 2 "new" Judges. This could change the fate of abortion and humanity as we know it.


To Sarah and for all others who would like to know
Sarah asked me what my personal reasons were in why I was agaisn't abortion, here it is...My mother tried several times to become impregenated, and finally she achieved her wish...however, after 5 months of pregnancy, and waiting to see if I were going to be male or female, the date arrived...she soon found out of what the doctor's thought, that I was going to be male(military doctors, that says enough)...and she went frantic, she didn't want a male, she wanted a female...so she went to an abortion clinic soon after and made a date of when she was going to abort the fetus...however, my father thought otherwise...I was his child, he should have a say in it...my dad went to Military Court, and fought the case, pushing the abortion date back until the Court made a ruling...the court decided that the decision of abortion should be joint between my mother and father...I wasn't aborted as you can see...4 months later when I was born, I was a female...my mom was shocked...however, I never was treated as I should've been by my mother...I was my father's pride and joy...today I've found out by studying the history on my mother's side of the family...that all mother's on my mom's side of the family have never gotten along with their daughters...and my mother wanted to prove to her mother that she could get along with her daughter...bullshit...we still haven't gotten along to this day...and the Federal Court of the United States has stated that my mother is an unfit parent, so I will never be allowed to have the chance of living with her, so I live with my father...

That is why I feel so personal about abortion, if it weren't for my father and his eternal strenghts and for him seeking justice, my mother would have killed me all because of my sex...that's why I'm agaisn't it...



I'm really sorry for what happened taylor!!I already said that I'm against abortion!you have all my support!
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Postby Ivy » Mar 10th, '06, 21:14

:'( Thank you guys for being so understanding, that's so sweet of both of you, actually all of you. And I understand your logic behind everything Sarah, your understanding and input is quite reasonable. However, I know a lot of women and girls who were wrapped and had their child by the rapee, and it didn't bother them that much because the child didn't do anything wrong, it couldn't help it. But yeah, I see your reasoning too Sarah. And again, thanks the both of you for hearing me out and understanding my reasonings :flower:
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Postby Shadyluva » Mar 10th, '06, 21:18

i think abortion is really bad
i mean if u didnt want a child use protection :)
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Postby Fi.J. » Mar 10th, '06, 21:22

TaylorakaTiGGi wrote::'( Thank you guys for being so understanding, that's so sweet of both of you, actually all of you. And I understand your logic behind everything Sarah, your understanding and input is quite reasonable. However, I know a lot of women and girls who were wrapped and had their child by the rapee, and it didn't bother them that much because the child didn't do anything wrong, it couldn't help it. But yeah, I see your reasoning too Sarah. And again, thanks the both of you for hearing me out and understanding my reasonings :flower:


awww you are welcum hun!!! :flower:
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Postby Ivy » Mar 10th, '06, 21:57

I think abortion is wrong except under certain situations, like if the woman got pregnant hoping for a child, but then she was unable to bear the child without harming herself or if there the child will be harmed by birth, then she should be able to have an abortion.
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Mar 11th, '06, 00:39

Shadyluva wrote:i think abortion is really bad
i mean if u didnt want a child use protection :)


once again... wtf?!... if ur raped, u have no choice about protectoin!
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Mar 11th, '06, 04:07

Sarah wrote:
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Shadyluva wrote:i think abortion is really bad
i mean if u didnt want a child use protection :)


once again... wtf?!... if ur raped, u have no choice about protectoin!

I think she's talking about when you plan to have sex lol


o.. well... ya... but still... the way everyone keeps sayin it... u know
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Mar 11th, '06, 05:28

no... they keep sayin its the womans fault and they have a choice.... but that aint alwayz true... and it pisses me off :angry:
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