Rihanna “Love The Way You Lie Pt. 2″ Featuring Eminem?

[Alaine]

Yeah. Like Eminem's pride would ever allow him to perform a ghost written verse.

That's just wishful thinking; it's not 2000 anymore, Eminem aint some rebel lol and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he did that just knowing how much money this shit will make off idiots.

yeh cuz he's not able to write lyrics if he's not a rebel
and of course his purpose in making music is to make as much money as possible

[Almostlity]

Tracklist's Source:

http://defpenradio.com/rihanna-loud-tra ... bum-cover/

[Alaine]

about the tracklist, her fans are saying it's fake btw

could be true in the end though, hope it leaks soon, this will be the first new Em since recovery release

[Kez]

Yeah. Like Eminem's pride would ever allow him to perform a ghost written verse.

That's just wishful thinking; it's not 2000 anymore, Eminem aint some rebel lol and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he did that just knowing how much money this shit will make off idiots.

yeh cuz he's not able to write lyrics if he's not a rebel

Never said that did i? His lyrics are still as good as ever.

and of course his purpose in making music is to make as much money as possible

Strange cause he has enough, and he talks all the time about how he's in it cause he loves hip hop and all this, yet he sees the need to pump out a sequel to a song which has already become fucking gigantic?

But he still has pride in his writing and lyrics, even if it isn't 2000. And I doubt Em really cares about the money or success of the song, he's not really in it for the money now, at least he shouldn't be at this stage of his career.

Again, i never said shit about the writing ability. And if Em didn't care about money or success, as i say, why is it he sees the need to rehash one of his most cliche songs? For the love of music? With Rihanna on it, it's more like an insult to music than any kind of "tribute". The reason it's being rehashed is because both he and Rihanna know that idiots will suck it up and it'll make lots of money. There is no other reason.

[Alaine]

and of course his purpose in making music is to make as much money as possible

Strange cause he has enough, and he talks all the time about how he's in it cause he loves hip hop and all this, yet he sees the need to pump out a sequel to a song which has already become fucking gigantic?

no where said it's his idea? it's rihanna's track. she has done LTWYL with him & now she asked for a favor back. And he's gonna say straight to her face "nah, I don't wanna do it"? you think Em could do that to her?

[HereHere]

I hope that tracklist is fake, Eminem on the hook would be alright, but another 2/3 verses about this will be awful.

[Kez]

and of course his purpose in making music is to make as much money as possible

Strange cause he has enough, and he talks all the time about how he's in it cause he loves hip hop and all this, yet he sees the need to pump out a sequel to a song which has already become fucking gigantic?

no where said it's his idea? it's rihanna's track. she has done LTWYL with him & now she asked for a favor back. And he's gonna say straight to her face "nah, I don't wanna do it"? you think Em could do that to her?

He should, cause if anyone is vain enough to rehash a song for money it's definately Rihanna, and if Em supposedly doesn't care about success then i don't see why he wouldn't. Then again he's probably more polite than he used to be these days, got to be careful so the stars of the day don't shun him so he can remain popular with the kidz.

[Alaine]

He should, cause if anyone is vain enough to rehash a song for money it's definately Rihanna, and if Em supposedly doesn't care about success then i don't see why he wouldn't. Then again he's probably more polite than he used to be these days, got to be careful so the stars of the day don't shun him so he can remain popular with the kidz.

he couldn't say no to her, that's the point. It's not just these days, Eminem has always been biased when it comes to friends & ppl he's familiar with, just look at who he has collabed with in the past

[Bistnal]

But he still has pride in his writing and lyrics, even if it isn't 2000. And I doubt Em really cares about the money or success of the song, he's not really in it for the money now, at least he shouldn't be at this stage of his career.

Again, i never said shit about the writing ability. And if Em didn't care about money or success, as i say, why is it he sees the need to rehash one of his most cliche songs? For the love of music? With Rihanna on it, it's more like an insult to music than any kind of "tribute". The reason it's being rehashed is because both he and Rihanna know that idiots will suck it up and it'll make lots of money. There is no other reason.

The fact that you commented saying he's not rebel to GGGG post about him having pride in his writing (to me at least) implied that you think he'd be okay w/ someone writing lyrics for him and not saying anything. Just the way I understood it so I was just saying I don't think even a 2010 Eminem would be okay with someone writing a whole verse for him. With this particular case though, I have a feeling the only reason Em would do it is because he asked Rihanna to be on his album so he wouldn't say no to returning the favor, no matter how shitty the song is...Em's not that kind of person anymore. So I think personally that it's more that he doesn't want to upset Rihanna and refuse another collaboration than him wanting it to be successful and make money off the song.

[Kez]

he couldn't say no to her, that's the point. It's not just these days, Eminem has always been biased when it comes to friends & ppl he's familiar with, just look at who he has collabed with in the past

Oh really? Let's have a look at his past collaborations then.

The vast majority have been his friends, i.e. Dre, Shady Records guys, 50, G-Unit, Game, Obie, Royce, SH, Snoop, Xzibit, Akon, T.I. etc. All fairly successful artists but not "pop" by any means. Sure they had some hits but the music still had meaning. T.I is especially related since he also had a song which he put proper lyrics in while Rihanna spouted garbage to the tune of the Numa Numa man on the chorus.

Then we have his collab with Dido, who was unheard of till he sampled her track, so obviously that doesn't apply either. He collabed with Helleva on Who Want It, and nobody knows who the fuck he is. Then you got B.O.B and Hayley Williams, which to be fair yeah they're pretty popular right now, but at least the song's got meaning. (Not saying LTWYL hasn't got meaning hidden amongst the crap but my point is that this sequel will have even less) All of this was before Recovery. If i'm missing any let me know, but i think i seem to have most of it covered.

Then Recovery rolls around and suddenly he works with Rihanna and Lil Wayne, and you're trying to suggest it's just cause they're also now his friends? Give me a break lmao, the only reason he's working with them is because he knows they are the biggest people in his genre on the planet right now, and knows that, fighting against them, he might actually stand to lose since part of his audience is that fickle these days. Probably didn't help that he released Relapse upon his return, an album which was him trying to be 1999 Eminem, and it didn't do so well. So no, i do not think that his collaborations in the past have ever previously amounted to rehashing an already massive song in order for more publicity and money.

Bistnal, as for your reply, maybe you're right, but the situation is still gay as fuck lol

[Bistnal]

^True, I definitely agree with that lol. He could be doing a collab w/ any number of good rappers/artists who would kill to work w/ him (Tech N9ne ) and he's going w/ Rihanna...again.
Part I of the song was bearable, but two is gonna be atrocious, I mean, what else can they say about the same thing?

[Alaine]

it's not about the money, it's about "favor"

lmao are you really that naive?

and btw, him & Rih, Wayne are friends obviously. Don't see how anyone could deny that.

Maybe people have suspicions because not only did we read Em's autobiography and see him say he was "watching rap go to crap" around the time Wayne was big but he has admitted he almost dissed him, then suddenly he comes back with Recovery and he's like "oh nah i love Wayne now" And is it me or is it a massive coincidence to suggest that Em's newest allies in the music world are two of the biggest names in the last few years?

[Bistnal]

^I wouldn't say 'friends' after a couple collabs. But I wouldn't deny them being obvious acquaintances.

[Alaine]

ppl seem to be missing the point of T2M, he talked about he was gonna diss wayne in the past, but does he HAVE TO talk about it? seriously he could just simple NOT talk about it at all, but he choose to pure his truth out in the song cuz he's not in "that place" (jealousy) anymore, that's why he's comfortable to talk about it now.

and how is this sequel about money to him when it's not gonna be a single?

[katha]

^True, I definitely agree with that lol. He could be doing a collab w/ any number of good rappers/artists who would kill to work w/ him (Tech N9ne ) and he's going w/ Rihanna...again.
Part I of the song was bearable, but two is gonna be atrocious, I mean, what else can they say about the same thing?

I think you could write an interesting song from the female point of view: He beats her up, but she makes excuses for him, has low self-esteem, loves him, thinks no one else gets her, is delusional and so on. Problem is, Rihanna is not the person to write that potentially decent song. Neither are the people who usually write for her (she has a few co-writing credits, but it's obvious that industry "pros" do most of the work for her songs), they're in the business of churning out generic pop songs. Looking at "Kim"...Eminem is probably the only one there who could do a creditable job with the woman's perspective as well. But it's not his song and not his album, so that's a moot point.

And I agree with Alaine on that one. No matter what motives he had for asking Rihanna to do LTWYL (I love the song, so am obviously not objective, won't bore anybody with anymore defenses of it etc. etc.), she did it. And yes, it was a big hit, but it also brought out creepy questioning and blaming and judging "how a victim should or should not behave and present herself". If she asks him and he says no, then he's publicly snubbing her. IMO there's no way out of this for him if she insists. And yeah, it will probably be horrible, but what can you do...