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Re: Are You Ashamed To Be A Stan?

Postby EminemBase » Nov 7th, '10, 23:48

Audi wrote:
Lello18 wrote:If you're ashamed of bein a stan you're not really a stan...

I'm proud of being one


No. If you belong to an Em forum you are a Stan. Unless it's for troll purposes.


That's ridiculous.

Belonging to a forum on somebody / a topic is for the sake of dicussion. The hysteria Eminem himself has created with that one fucking song is totally absurd.

You're a Stan if - You not only listen to Eminem's music but you...
1. Follow and care deeply about his personal issues.
2. Defend him no matter what and delude yourself into liking everything.
3. Dress, talk and try to be like Eminem.
4. Try to get on contact with Eminem.

That term can only be logically applicable if you adhere to at least those four as those are the main issues at present in Stan and from which the definition sprung. You can't claim somebody is that just because they like his music or talk about his music.

People talk about artists they like all the time, as I do about other artists, comedians, writers, directors etc. it's fucking discussion for Christ's sake. You only think it makes you a Stan because it's in the context of Eminem. It's totally normal.

You're NOT a Stan even if you know every word to every song. As a lot of people have that same type of obsession with plenty of other artists in every field.

I for example pretty much know every word to every episode of The Office and Extras. But what, I'm not a 'Gervais Stan' just because he doesn't have a relevant term? lmao.

I'm not a 'stan' of Eminem for the same reason. I talk, act and think like me, not like Eminem. I don't try to be like him, I couldn't give a shit about his personal life and follow him for his music. That does not make you Stan. It's so fucking silly.
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Re: Are You Ashamed To Be A Stan?

Postby Audi » Nov 7th, '10, 23:49

EminemBase wrote:
Audi wrote:
Lello18 wrote:If you're ashamed of bein a stan you're not really a stan...

I'm proud of being one


No. If you belong to an Em forum you are a Stan. Unless it's for troll purposes.


That's ridiculous.

Belonging to a forum on somebody / a topic is for the sake of dicussion. The hysteria Eminem himself has created with that one fucking song is totally absurd.

You're a Stan if - You not only listen to Eminem's music but you...
1. Follow and care deeply about his personal issues.
2. Defend him no matter what and delude yourself into liking everything.
3. Dress, talk and try to be like Eminem.

You're NOT a Stan even if you know every word to every song. As a lot of people have that same type of obsession with plenty of other artists in every field.

I for example pretty much know every word to every episode of The Office and Extras. But what, I'm not a 'Gervais Stan' just because he doesn't have a relevant term? lmao.

I'm not a 'stan' of Eminem for the same reason. I talk, act and think like me, not like Eminem. I don't try to be like him, I couldn't give a shit about his personal life and follow him for his music. That does not make you Stan. It's so fucking silly.


I already said in comparison to your friends. I only wrote one sentence so you didn't have to hunt for it at all.
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Re: Are You Ashamed To Be A Stan?

Postby EminemBase » Nov 7th, '10, 23:54

^ Well, if you're asking am I ashamed to say I like Eminem for fear of looking obsessed... for not hating him, then no - that's really silly and childish.

I'm 20 years of age, my friends are also 20 upwards. So we speak like we're 20 and upwards, we speak logically, not like little 10 year olds on this place who resort to babyish name-calling every time to evade debate.

Most of my friends also like Eminem but also listen to a lot of other genres. I don't, I just listen to hip-hop. But as long as you can defend your viewpoints regardless, it's not blind obsession. I can break down and defend why I think Eminem is one of the greatest. Logically and at-length. Where as a 'stan', would come from a deep, unhealthy emotional resonance stand-point and be unable to do that.
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Re: Are You Ashamed To Be A Stan?

Postby classthe_king » Nov 7th, '10, 23:54

EminemBase wrote:I for example pretty much know every word to every episode of The Office and Extras. But what, I'm not a 'Gervais Stan' just because he doesn't have a relevant term? lmao.


Actually, yes you are.
You think your personal attacks make up for what you lack?
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Re: Are You Ashamed To Be A Stan?

Postby Audi » Nov 7th, '10, 23:56

EminemBase wrote:^ Well, if you're asking am I ashamed to say I like Eminem for fear of looking obsessed... for not hating him, then no - that's really silly and childish.

I'm 20 years of age, my friends are also 20 upwards. So we speak like we're 20 and upwards, we speak logically, not like little 10 year olds on this place who resort to babyish name-calling every time to evade debate.

Most of my friends also like Eminem but also listen to a lot of other genres. I don't, I just listen to hip-hop. But as long as you can defend your viewpoints regardless, it's not blind obsession. I can break down and defend why I think Eminem is one of the greatest. Logically and at-length. Where as a 'stan', would come from a deep, unhealthy emotional resonance stand-point and be unable to do that.


Well now that that's settled :coffee:
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Re: Are You Ashamed To Be A Stan?

Postby EminemBase » Nov 7th, '10, 23:58

classthe_king wrote:
EminemBase wrote:I for example pretty much know every word to every episode of The Office and Extras. But what, I'm not a 'Gervais Stan' just because he doesn't have a relevant term? lmao.


Actually, yes you are.


Well then you clearly don't even understand the term you slang around.

Since there's no official definition of Stan and it's used unconventionally in a genre, the only fair and rational definition of any sorts can be from the source - the song.

Now, in the song - Stan is an obsessed Eminem fan who is obsessed with Eminem as a person, and that's the point of the song. It's highlighting the fact this man takes everything Em says to heart and has made Eminem a part of his life, it's an emotional resonance, not just a love of his art.

So... Unless you're that, you're not a Stan. Of anybody.

Knowing a film, song, artist, director's set of movies inside-out / back to front etc. does not make you a Stan. That's an obsession with their ART, their creation. Not them.

If I was say... writing letters to Gervais asking to meet up and divulging details of his life to him to show I can relate, then you could call me that. Since I don't and never have however, your claim is false and illogical.
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Re: Are You Ashamed To Be A Stan?

Postby classthe_king » Nov 8th, '10, 00:02

EminemBase wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
EminemBase wrote:I for example pretty much know every word to every episode of The Office and Extras. But what, I'm not a 'Gervais Stan' just because he doesn't have a relevant term? lmao.


Actually, yes you are.


Well then you clearly don't even understand the term you slang around.

Since there's no official definition of Stan and it's used unconventionally in a genre, the only fair and rational definition of any sorts can be from the source - the song.

Now, in the song - Stan is an obsessed Eminem fan who is obsessed with Eminem as a person, and that's the point of the song. It's highlighting the fact this man takes everything Em says to heart and has made Eminem a part of his life, it's an emotional resonance, not just a love of his art.

So... Unless you're that, you're not a Stan. Of anybody.

Knowing a film, song, artist, director's set of movies inside-out / back to front etc. does not make you a Stan. That's an obsession with their ART, their creation. Not them.

If I was say... writing letters to Gervais asking to meet up and divulging details of his life to him to show I can relate, then you could call me that. Since I don't and never have however, your claim is false and illogical.


You're an Office Stan
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Re: Are You Ashamed To Be A Stan?

Postby Audi » Nov 8th, '10, 00:02

So using your logic nobody is a Stan unless they write Em letters, dye their hair, slit their girlfriends throat, AND drive off a bridge?
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Re: Are You Ashamed To Be A Stan?

Postby EminemBase » Nov 8th, '10, 00:03

classthe_king wrote:You're an Office Stan


Okay.

You will obviously remain as dumb as you are now forever so, keep making stupid little one-liner posts. But it's boring as fuck. Later, ZZzzzzzz.
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Re: Are You Ashamed To Be A Stan?

Postby classthe_king » Nov 8th, '10, 00:05

EminemBase wrote:
classthe_king wrote:You're an Office Stan


Okay.

You will obviously remain as dumb as you are now forever so, keep making stupid little one-liner posts. But it's boring as fuck. Later, ZZzzzzzz.


You're a long-post stan.
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Re: Are You Ashamed To Be A Stan?

Postby EminemBase » Nov 8th, '10, 00:05

Audi wrote:So using your logic nobody is a Stan unless they write Em letters, dye their hair, slit their girlfriends throat, AND drive off a bridge?


No, that wasn't my logic.

My logic wasn't that nobody is a Stan unless they literally mirror his every action.

My logic was that unless you resemble the KEY features which separate FAN from STAN, which are the point of the entire song, then you are not a Stan.

Eminem wasn't saying anybody who knows all of his songs is a Stan, or that anybody who fucking likes him is a Stan lmao. I could just as easily say "using your logic anybody who loves Eminem's music is a Stan"? Both extremes are retarded.

Point is, unless you follow and love Eminem for reasons other than his art. You can't be a Stan. You can't claim somebody is a Stan just because they like his music.

Or even love and follow his music. That is totally normal and healthy and millions of people do it with Eminem and MANY others. And not just music artists, also authors and film-makers, that doesn't make you a Stan, that's being a FAAAAANNNNN.

It has to be unhealthy and abnormal to be classed as Stan, otherwise, how do you claim it's outside of the 'fan' definition? If all you're doing is following and discussing Eminem's music, then you are a fan. Not a Stan.
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Re: Are You Ashamed To Be A Stan?

Postby BILI » Nov 8th, '10, 00:08

Audi wrote:So using your logic nobody is a Stan unless they write Em letters, dye their hair, slit their girlfriends throat, AND drive off a bridge?

Actually yes,thats what real Stan is.

And Audi my man,you are a Stan
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Re: Are You Ashamed To Be A Stan?

Postby classthe_king » Nov 8th, '10, 00:11

BILI wrote:Then its for troll purposes


Okay Bilislimshady :shifty:
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Re: Are You Ashamed To Be A Stan?

Postby BILI » Nov 8th, '10, 00:14

classthe_king wrote:
BILI wrote:Then its for troll purposes


Okay Bilislimshady :shifty:

hahahha

you`re mean :(

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Re: Are You Ashamed To Be A Stan?

Postby classthe_king » Nov 8th, '10, 00:16

BILI wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
BILI wrote:Then its for troll purposes


Okay Bilislimshady :shifty:

hahahha

you`re mean :(

*searches for 1st posts by Sentus


You're goona find some bad stuff :laughing:
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