Too much swearing

[EM-DZ]

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[Rash J]

yeah he does swear just for the sake of it a lot of times. it sounds unnecessary to me too.

agreed that sometimes it's unnecessary but c'mon...
i think there're bigger things to worry about

yep like the Shouting,awkward walking on stage,collaborations,never smiling,corny punchlines,eye twitch,hair not being blonde,etc etc

LOL

btw what do you mean there are bigger things to worry about, like what?

one thing i'm slightly bothered by recently is his narrow scope of topics to rap about. right now it's all bout the opposite sex. bitch, cunt, etc

[buffalo bill]

i dont got that bad of a mouth do I? Fuck, shit, ass, bitch c-nt...

Exactly, there's a good example of where Eminem is swearing for an actual reason and not just for the sake of it. MMLP is full of that. It's completely different these days. Uninspired routine "I have to say some offensive words just because" blah.

[BeautifulEscape]

Wow, I'm not the only one who thinks this? I didn't want to mention it because you say anything negative about Em these days and people run at you with pitchforks. Every artist has their flaws, even Eminem.

The swearing is fine in songs like LTWYL, 25 to Life, Not Afraid, most of Recovery actually. It blends in good. But in other songs, like Cold Wind Blows, Romans's Revenge, All She Wrote (although I do like the song), it sounds like he's swearing just to swear. Unnecessary.

[GenePeer]

Fuck that shit, bitch, eat a motherfuckin' dick
Chew on a prick, and lick a million motherfuckin' cocks per second
I'd rather put out a motherfucking gospel record
I'd rather be a pussy-whipped bitch, eat pussy
And have pussy-lips glued to my face with a clit-ring in my nose

Did anyone complain about that too? It's clearly cursing for the sake of it from the beloved TES. Eminem always curses guys, it's not like it's something new.

[EminemBase]

Fuck that shit, bitch, eat a motherfuckin' dick
Chew on a prick, and lick a million motherfuckin' cocks per second
I'd rather put out a motherfucking gospel record
I'd rather be a pussy-whipped bitch, eat pussy
And have pussy-lips glued to my face with a clit-ring in my nose

Did anyone complain about that too? It's clearly cursing for the sake of it from the beloved TES. Eminem always curses guys, it's not like it's something new.

Yes but preceding that was "if you ain't got nothing nice to say then don't say nothing..."

What people are saying is before he always justified his vulgarity with wit and irony. It was always heavily surrounded in character and for a reason (or mostly). Or at least heavily justified in the context and spaced out, for the sake of emphasis where nothing else would achieve it.

Where as a lot of it now is just for the sake of doing it because he wants to sound pissed off. That example you gave is not dissimilar to "I don't got that bad of a mouth do I?" followed by the rant of swearing. It's ironic, he's goading the listener.

There was a lot of swearing you could deem unnecessary on even the old shit though, on "Soldier" for example. And he always slightly ruined the last verse of "Sing for the Moment" for me, just because there was too many 'motherfuck's' in a short space of time, was overkill and unneeded.

But the fact of it is, if it's good it's good. The writing was so good then aside from it that it didn't matter, because everything surrounding it was so sublime. But now that he doesn't have close to that same level of edge or worldly commentary, it's emphasized and feels desperate.

I'm not advocating complaint of it by the way, it doesn't really bother me. Like I said, I find it funny he's going out of his way to make himself pissed off. But I can still see the reason(s) for the complaint very easily, so just laying out what could be the reasons for some and why it's different.

[BeautifulEscape]

Fuck that shit, bitch, eat a motherfuckin' dick
Chew on a prick, and lick a million motherfuckin' cocks per second
I'd rather put out a motherfucking gospel record
I'd rather be a pussy-whipped bitch, eat pussy
And have pussy-lips glued to my face with a clit-ring in my nose

Did anyone complain about that too? It's clearly cursing for the sake of it from the beloved TES. Eminem always curses guys, it's not like it's something new.

Yes but preceding that was "if you ain't got nothing nice to say then don't say nothing..."

What people are saying is before he always justified his vulgarity with wit and irony. It was always heavily surrounded in character and for a reason (or mostly). Or at least heavily justified in the context and spaced out, for the sake of emphasis where nothing else would achieve it.

Where as a lot of it now is just for the sake of doing it because he wants to sound pissed off. That example you gave is not dissimilar to "I don't got that bad of a mouth do I?" followed by the rant of swearing. It's ironic, he's goading the listener.

There was a lot of swearing you could deem unnecessary on even the old shit though, on "Soldier" for example. And he always slightly ruined the last verse of "Sing for the Moment" for me, just because there was too many 'motherfuck's' in a short space of time, was overkill and unneeded.

But the fact of it is, if it's good it's good. The writing was so good then aside from it that it didn't matter, because everything surrounding it was so sublime. But now that he doesn't have close to that same level of edge or worldly commentary, it's emphasized and feels desperate.

I'm not advocating complaint of it by the way, it doesn't really bother me. Like I said, I find it funny he's going out of his way to make himself pissed off. But I can still see the reason(s) for the complaint very easily, so just laying out what could be the reasons for some.

Exactly.

[GenePeer]

Fuck that shit, bitch, eat a motherfuckin' dick
Chew on a prick, and lick a million motherfuckin' cocks per second
I'd rather put out a motherfucking gospel record
I'd rather be a pussy-whipped bitch, eat pussy
And have pussy-lips glued to my face with a clit-ring in my nose

Did anyone complain about that too? It's clearly cursing for the sake of it from the beloved TES. Eminem always curses guys, it's not like it's something new.

Yes but preceding that was "if you ain't got nothing nice to say then don't say nothing..."

What people are saying is before he always justified his vulgarity with wit and irony. It was always heavily surrounded in character and for a reason (or mostly). Or at least heavily justified in the context and spaced out, for the sake of emphasis where nothing else would achieve it.

Where as a lot of it now is just for the sake of doing it because he wants to sound pissed off. That example you gave is not dissimilar to "I don't got that bad of a mouth do I?" followed by the rant of swearing. It's ironic, he's goading the listener.

There was a lot of swearing you could deem unnecessary on even the old shit though, on "Soldier" for example. And he always slightly ruined the last verse of "Sing for the Moment" for me, just because there was too many 'motherfuck's' in a short space of time, was overkill and unneeded.

But the fact of it is, if it's good it's good. The writing was so good then aside from it that it didn't matter, because everything surrounding it was so sublime. But now that he doesn't have close to that same level of edge or worldly commentary, it's emphasized and feels desperate.

I'm not advocating complaint of it by the way, it doesn't really bother me. Like I said, I find it funny he's going out of his way to make himself pissed off. But I can still see the reason(s) for the complaint very easily, so just laying out what could be the reasons for some and why it's different.

In the other example, he's mocking the people who say he's got a bad mouth. But in My Dad's Gone Crazy, it's his mother who tell's him that. So unless his mother is a symbol for critics, it was still unnecessary. He was not responding to anything from the public then and neither is he right now.

[EminemBase]

In the other example, he's mocking the people who say he's got a bad mouth. But in My Dad's Gone Crazy, it's his mother who tell's him that. So unless his mother is a symbol for critics, it was still unnecessary. He was not responding to anything from the public then and neither is he right now.

No I wasn't saying the context was the exact same. But that its irony was similar. I drew a comparison, I didn't just comment on one. I'm saying - the 'bad mouth' thing is similar to the "My Dad's Gone Crazy" example. He says "I don't got that bad of a mouth do I?" then follows it with a tirade of swearing. Ironic to the previous statement.

Then, with the "My Dad's Gone Crazy" example - He says (as his mother) "If you ain't got nothing nice to say then don't say nothing" then says a tirade of bad things (opposite of nice things). Thus, it's an ironic flip-side to the previous line in the same vein.

So it wasn't unnecessary, it was necessary for that same line of comedic response.

[GenePeer]

In the other example, he's mocking the people who say he's got a bad mouth. But in My Dad's Gone Crazy, it's his mother who tell's him that. So unless his mother is a symbol for critics, it was still unnecessary. He was not responding to anything from the public then and neither is he right now.

No I wasn't saying the context was the exact same. But that its irony was similar. I drew a comparison, I didn't just comment on one. I'm saying - the 'bad mouth' thing is similar to the "My Dad's Gone Crazy" example. He says "I don't got that bad of a mouth do I?" then follows it with a tirade of swearing. Ironic to the previous statement.

Then, with the "My Dad's Gone Crazy" example - He says (as his mother) "If you ain't got nothing nice to say then don't say nothing" then says a tirade of bad things (opposite of nice things). Thus, it's an ironic flip-side to the previous line in the same vein.

So it wasn't unnecessary, it was necessary for that same line of comedic response.

Oh well, I guess he's lost his some of his sense of humor then.

[BILI]

[EminemBase]

In the other example, he's mocking the people who say he's got a bad mouth. But in My Dad's Gone Crazy, it's his mother who tell's him that. So unless his mother is a symbol for critics, it was still unnecessary. He was not responding to anything from the public then and neither is he right now.

No I wasn't saying the context was the exact same. But that its irony was similar. I drew a comparison, I didn't just comment on one. I'm saying - the 'bad mouth' thing is similar to the "My Dad's Gone Crazy" example. He says "I don't got that bad of a mouth do I?" then follows it with a tirade of swearing. Ironic to the previous statement.

Then, with the "My Dad's Gone Crazy" example - He says (as his mother) "If you ain't got nothing nice to say then don't say nothing" then says a tirade of bad things (opposite of nice things). Thus, it's an ironic flip-side to the previous line in the same vein.

So it wasn't unnecessary, it was necessary for that same line of comedic response.

Oh well, I guess he's lost his some of his sense of humor then.

He's lost a lot of his true wit and edge for sure.

Closest he's come is the odd line here and there in particular these ones...

I'll be nicer to women when Aqua Man drowns and the Human Torch starts swimming.

Go take a flying leap of faith off a fucking balcony.

Who forms pyramids and raps circles around square lyricists? (not funny, but brilliant)

Even when he's technically proficient now, it's often so void of his original character. He's still such an interesting mind with how he chooses to go about things though. Even when he's not on-point, he's got personality to spare in comparison to everyone else.

[OMEGA]

Sarcasm

Hi 5.

I was making fun of those who complain about every single shit.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

This IS an Eminem forum, and Eminem is known for his strong language...

I wonder what people will bitch about next? His hair? No, no...maybe his tattoos. Yes, he has too many tattoos, even though he's had them forever...(sarcasm)

[theJFKshow]

Agreed